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Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2022 18:06:07 GMT -8
Twins and Padres discussing a trade that would deal lefty closer Rodgers to the Padres for Paddack (unclear what other prospects are being discussed in the deal).
Seems like a really bad more from a salary perspective, as well as a long term perspective.
Rodgers is owed 7.3mm (FA after this year), Paddack 2.5mm this year (3 years of team control).
Have to believe such a deal would include prospects and/or a corner outfielder being sent back to the Padres.
A strong lefty bullpen arm is a prized commodity, but a starter with 3 years of cheap team control is worth much more.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2022 18:15:08 GMT -8
Maybe Kepler or Celestino coming back to the Pads? Or maybe the Twins take on some of Hosmer's salary and dumping him on the Twins is the return?
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 6, 2022 18:23:37 GMT -8
Maybe Kepler or Celestino coming back to the Pads? Or maybe the Twins take on some of Hosmer's salary and dumping him on the Twins is the return? None of the above, unfortunately. There is some chatter from the Minnesota side about potentially Wil Myers being involved. Another deal I think that doesn't come together because of the rush to report it by Rosenthal and others.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2022 21:38:20 GMT -8
Maybe Kepler or Celestino coming back to the Pads? Or maybe the Twins take on some of Hosmer's salary and dumping him on the Twins is the return? None of the above, unfortunately. There is some chatter from the Minnesota side about potentially Wil Myers being involved. Another deal I think that doesn't come together because of the rush to report it by Rosenthal and others. So, Paddack + Myers to then go out and sign Conforto? That seems very short sighted if we aren't getting any premium prospect or corner outfielder back - as things stand we would like to add one more outfielder. We would be giving up 3 years of a SP at a cheap salary to gain Conforto (a very marginal improvement of about 2 WAR per year vs. Myers at about 1.5) and a year of Rodgers (1 WAR). Paddack is worth 1 WAR per year for 3 years - and that WAR is at an incredibly cheap salary! If we just wait a year Myers contract will expire - it makes no sense to trade him when we need a corner infielder anyways. Hosmer's contract is another story.
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Post by aztecmusician on Apr 7, 2022 5:58:58 GMT -8
Padres get: Taylor Rogers Twins get: Pagan, Paddack
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Post by aardvark on Apr 7, 2022 6:01:36 GMT -8
Padres get: Taylor Rogers Twins get: Pagan, Paddack Padres also get a light-hitting OF/1B, I believe.
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Post by aardvark on Apr 7, 2022 6:02:32 GMT -8
At least with Pagan leaving, sitting in the LF seats won't be such a dangerous place in the late innings.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 6:20:56 GMT -8
Padres get: Taylor Rogers Twins get: Pagan, Paddack Padres also get a light-hitting OF/1B, I believe. Really big power potential. Team thinks there is more in the tank than his small MLB sample.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 6:22:33 GMT -8
None of the above, unfortunately. There is some chatter from the Minnesota side about potentially Wil Myers being involved. Another deal I think that doesn't come together because of the rush to report it by Rosenthal and others. So, Paddack + Myers to then go out and sign Conforto? That seems very short sighted if we aren't getting any premium prospect or corner outfielder back - as things stand we would like to add one more outfielder. We would be giving up 3 years of a SP at a cheap salary to gain Conforto (a very marginal improvement of about 2 WAR per year vs. Myers at about 1.5) and a year of Rodgers (1 WAR). Paddack is worth 1 WAR per year for 3 years - and that WAR is at an incredibly cheap salary! If we just wait a year Myers contract will expire - it makes no sense to trade him when we need a corner infielder anyways. Hosmer's contract is another story. They aren't signing Conforto. Myers has a buyout for next season. You're trying to shed salary. It didn't happen in this deal, unfortunately.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 8:08:18 GMT -8
Rogers is projected as the fourth best reliever in baseball this season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 10:08:27 GMT -8
None of the above, unfortunately. There is some chatter from the Minnesota side about potentially Wil Myers being involved. Another deal I think that doesn't come together because of the rush to report it by Rosenthal and others. So, Paddack + Myers to then go out and sign Conforto? That seems very short sighted if we aren't getting any premium prospect or corner outfielder back - as things stand we would like to add one more outfielder. We would be giving up 3 years of a SP at a cheap salary to gain Conforto (a very marginal improvement of about 2 WAR per year vs. Myers at about 1.5) and a year of Rodgers (1 WAR). Paddack is worth 1 WAR per year for 3 years - and that WAR is at an incredibly cheap salary! If we just wait a year Myers contract will expire - it makes no sense to trade him when we need a corner infielder anyways. Hosmer's contract is another story. Conforto or another high priced FA isnt coming. Contrary to what my pal Ryan once said, I assure you SD ownership has no intention of going into the luxury tax territory.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 10:10:49 GMT -8
Rogers's K's per 9 last season were very impressive.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 7, 2022 10:19:43 GMT -8
Very good reliever, but I don't like that he gave up just about a hit an inning in his role. That's, I'm sure, what accounted for his ERA in the 3's.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 10:29:26 GMT -8
So, Paddack + Myers to then go out and sign Conforto? That seems very short sighted if we aren't getting any premium prospect or corner outfielder back - as things stand we would like to add one more outfielder. We would be giving up 3 years of a SP at a cheap salary to gain Conforto (a very marginal improvement of about 2 WAR per year vs. Myers at about 1.5) and a year of Rodgers (1 WAR). Paddack is worth 1 WAR per year for 3 years - and that WAR is at an incredibly cheap salary! If we just wait a year Myers contract will expire - it makes no sense to trade him when we need a corner infielder anyways. Hosmer's contract is another story. Conforto or another high priced FA isnt coming. Contrary to what my pal Ryan once said, I assure you SD ownership has no intention of going into the luxury tax territory. They are already there, so...I'll tell you the exact opposite.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 10:31:56 GMT -8
Rogers's K's per 9 last season were very impressive. Lefties were 9-53 off him with 29 strikeouts and 1 walk.
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Post by aardvark on Apr 7, 2022 10:41:30 GMT -8
Padres also get a light-hitting OF/1B, I believe. Really big power potential. Team thinks there is more in the tank than his small MLB sample. And he gets to show that power at elevation in AAA.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 11:12:31 GMT -8
Really big power potential. Team thinks there is more in the tank than his small MLB sample. And he gets to show that power at elevation in AAA. With the humidors in every park, offense will be up this season. Balls will fly.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 11:45:45 GMT -8
So, Paddack + Myers to then go out and sign Conforto? That seems very short sighted if we aren't getting any premium prospect or corner outfielder back - as things stand we would like to add one more outfielder. We would be giving up 3 years of a SP at a cheap salary to gain Conforto (a very marginal improvement of about 2 WAR per year vs. Myers at about 1.5) and a year of Rodgers (1 WAR). Paddack is worth 1 WAR per year for 3 years - and that WAR is at an incredibly cheap salary! If we just wait a year Myers contract will expire - it makes no sense to trade him when we need a corner infielder anyways. Hosmer's contract is another story. Conforto or another high priced FA isnt coming. Contrary to what my pal Ryan once said, I assure you SD ownership has no intention of going into the luxury tax territory. Keep in mind that anyone that gets called up gets added to the roster on a prorated league minimum salary. As of now, the team is just over a million dollars shy of the CBT threshold. They'll absolutely surpass it at some point, especially if they need to maneuver at the deadline to make an acquisition. It's pretty much impossible to stay under the number by this thin of a margin.
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Post by aardvark on Apr 7, 2022 14:00:53 GMT -8
And he gets to show that power at elevation in AAA. With the humidors in every park, offense will be up this season. Balls will fly. If he hits it. .201 avg in over 200 PA's last season.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 14:08:26 GMT -8
With the humidors in every park, offense will be up this season. Balls will fly. If he hits it. .201 avg in over 200 PA's last season. Not saying he's going to be an elite hitter, but the expected numbers were a lot better than the surface ones.
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