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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 12:37:41 GMT -8
Conforto or another high priced FA isnt coming. Contrary to what my pal Ryan once said, I assure you SD ownership has no intention of going into the luxury tax territory. They are already there, so...I'll tell you the exact opposite. Sure about that, amigo?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 12:40:21 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 12:43:10 GMT -8
They are already there, so...I'll tell you the exact opposite. Sure about that, amigo? Yes, I'm positive. I'm not sure what you're trying to indicate here. They are essentially at the tax now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2022 12:44:54 GMT -8
"Essentially". LMAO.
OK......
You either are, or you aren't.
Sure, they are very likely to go over with call ups, or a deal --- but they won't go big ticket like FA's mentioned above. And, whose to say they don't make a cost CUTTING move?
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 13, 2022 12:49:54 GMT -8
"Essentially". LMAO. OK...... You either are, or you aren't. Sure, they are very likely to go over with call ups, or a deal --- but they won't go big ticket like FA's mentioned above. And, whose to say they don't make a cost CUTTING move? They are under by less than a million or so? It's the seventh game of the season, so you're not going to stay under it for long at that rate. Avila called up today, Gore Friday probably puts them over by default. Not saying they are going to sign Conforto, I'm saying they aren't utilizing the tax as a hard line figure this early in the season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2022 18:06:11 GMT -8
Ryan,
By chance, did you see The Athletic’s piece on the Matt Brash trade this morning?
Man! Hindsight is what it is, but wish they had kept him!
Good article.
Hope all is well, my man.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 15, 2022 20:01:47 GMT -8
Ryan, By chance, did you see The Athletic’s piece on the Matt Brash trade this morning? Man! Hindsight is what it is, but wish they had kept him! Good article. Hope all is well, my man. I did. The thing is Brash shut himself down in 2019 and then didn't pitch in 2020 with the COVID season. Very tough to evaluate those guys, especially the cold weather pitchers who don't throw a ton collegiately. I think Brash is a reliever long-term. The delivery is terrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 11:13:07 GMT -8
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 17, 2022 19:45:39 GMT -8
Ouch. Doesn't look like Preller's been winning with these trades. Losing's more like it. Losing big.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2022 7:30:00 GMT -8
Ouch. Doesn't look like Preller's been winning with these trades. Losing's more like it. Losing big. ....No. Trading away from depth is what teams do when players are blocked from positions that are covered here. Quantrill's an okay backend guy with the same peripherals he had here, but he's not making the rotation here. The rest of the guys were blocked on the field. Arias is a shortstop/third baseman. Miller is a utility guy. Austin Hedges? Lol.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 18, 2022 7:38:35 GMT -8
Ouch. Doesn't look like Preller's been winning with these trades. Losing's more like it. Losing big. ....No. Trading away from depth is what teams do when players are blocked from positions that are covered here. Quantrill's an okay backend guy with the same peripherals he had here, but he's not making the rotation here. The rest of the guys were blocked on the field. Arias is a shortstop/third baseman. Miller is a utility guy. Austin Hedges? Lol. When one team gets starters who are productive out of the deal, and the other team doesn't get anyone who starts or is productive, it's fair to say that it's a bad trade for the 2nd team. The Padres gave up more talent than they got in those trades by a longshot.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2022 7:52:11 GMT -8
....No. Trading away from depth is what teams do when players are blocked from positions that are covered here. Quantrill's an okay backend guy with the same peripherals he had here, but he's not making the rotation here. The rest of the guys were blocked on the field. Arias is a shortstop/third baseman. Miller is a utility guy. Austin Hedges? Lol. When one team gets starters who are productive out of the deal, and the other team doesn't get anyone who starts or is productive, it's fair to say that it's a bad trade for the 2nd team. The Padres gave up more talent than they got in those trades by a longshot. A) You can't predict injuries. B) Sample size matters. Clevinger's story still has chapters to go. C) Not a proper way to evaluate trades. You have to look at roster composition and construction. Just because a guy is "productive" elsewhere doesn't mean that translates to productive "here." And yes, teams will give up talent in trades when they have a glut of it that's blocked. It's what you do when you have excess depth.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 18, 2022 8:01:36 GMT -8
When one team gets starters who are productive out of the deal, and the other team doesn't get anyone who starts or is productive, it's fair to say that it's a bad trade for the 2nd team. The Padres gave up more talent than they got in those trades by a longshot. A) You can't predict injuries. B) Sample size matters. Clevinger's story still has chapters to go. C) Not a proper way to evaluate trades. You have to look at roster composition and construction. Just because a guy is "productive" elsewhere doesn't mean that translates to productive "here." And yes, teams will give up talent in trades when they have a glut of it that's blocked. It's what you do when you have excess depth. The point is, Preller could have traded them to another team and actually gotten players that made significant positive contributions here. Instead, we gave away talent, and got almost nothing useful in return.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 18, 2022 8:21:51 GMT -8
A) You can't predict injuries. B) Sample size matters. Clevinger's story still has chapters to go. C) Not a proper way to evaluate trades. You have to look at roster composition and construction. Just because a guy is "productive" elsewhere doesn't mean that translates to productive "here." And yes, teams will give up talent in trades when they have a glut of it that's blocked. It's what you do when you have excess depth. The point is, Preller could have traded them to another team and actually gotten players that made significant positive contributions here. Instead, we gave away talent, and got almost nothing useful in return. And that's completely inaccurate. He wanted Clevinger, who is an All-Star type arm when he's on the mound and healthy. I love how we're all basing this off of a handful of games this season. Where was this last year when Miller hit .204 with a .243 on base percentage? I'm absolutely positive he's going to slug.....uh, .964? Forever. Right. Sounds possible. Now, the Mariners deal...well, that could be a different story. When you trade 30+ prospects, some will inevitably be good under better developmental systems.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 18, 2022 22:11:44 GMT -8
Ouch. Doesn't look like Preller's been winning with these trades. Losing's more like it. Losing big. Lol its hard to win trading for a Cy Young caliber arm who then gets a TJ months later. It's really unlucky. And if the finger is to be pointed at anyone, its the team doctors/trainers/pitching coach/head coach who let him give it a go in the playoffs when he was already clearly injured.
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