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Post by junior on Apr 7, 2022 17:32:31 GMT -8
Even though they can't even pay anyone to take Myers or Hosmer, shipping out Festus Pagan and Chris Paddick is still one of the best moves of the season so far. After last year's end of the season performances, good riddance to the both of them.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 7, 2022 19:36:35 GMT -8
So, Paddack + Myers to then go out and sign Conforto? That seems very short sighted if we aren't getting any premium prospect or corner outfielder back - as things stand we would like to add one more outfielder. We would be giving up 3 years of a SP at a cheap salary to gain Conforto (a very marginal improvement of about 2 WAR per year vs. Myers at about 1.5) and a year of Rodgers (1 WAR). Paddack is worth 1 WAR per year for 3 years - and that WAR is at an incredibly cheap salary! If we just wait a year Myers contract will expire - it makes no sense to trade him when we need a corner infielder anyways. Hosmer's contract is another story. They aren't signing Conforto. Myers has a buyout for next season. You're trying to shed salary. It didn't happen in this deal, unfortunately. I like the final deal a lot better then shipping Myers out. We get a good reliever (a lefty too, which we desperately needed) in exchange for a decent reliever, and we give a decent starting pitcher for a young outfielder with potential upside. Much, much better deal. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 7, 2022 21:10:24 GMT -8
In a division with the Dodgers and the Giants, the Padres don't look all that impressive.
So now, what? The plan is to cut salary again? This team has no depth, and not even all that strong of a starting line-up. Where's the offense? How about a closer?
There's a long way to go, but, right now, tonight, this team looks like a trainwreck. Tomorrow's a new day, but, man was this game a disaster at the end. Of course, you can't only score two runs and expect a win most times.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 22:51:40 GMT -8
In a division with the Dodgers and the Giants, the Padres don't look all that impressive. So now, what? The plan is to cut salary again? This team has no depth, and not even all that strong of a starting line-up. Where's the offense? How about a closer? There's a long way to go, but, right now, tonight, this team looks like a trainwreck. Tomorrow's a new day, but, man was this game a disaster at the end. Of course, you can't only score two runs and expect a win most times. They looked fine for 8 1/2 innings. It's one game. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 7, 2022 23:02:47 GMT -8
In a division with the Dodgers and the Giants, the Padres don't look all that impressive. So now, what? The plan is to cut salary again? This team has no depth, and not even all that strong of a starting line-up. Where's the offense? How about a closer? There's a long way to go, but, right now, tonight, this team looks like a trainwreck. Tomorrow's a new day, but, man was this game a disaster at the end. Of course, you can't only score two runs and expect a win most times. They looked fine for 8 1/2 innings. It's one game. The pitching looked great for 8 1/2 innings. The hitting, not so much. But, yeah, it's ONE game. Over reacting is ridiculous right now. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 7, 2022 23:06:03 GMT -8
They looked fine for 8 1/2 innings. It's one game. The pitching looked great for 8 1/2 innings. The hitting, not so much. But, yeah, it's ONE game. Over reacting is ridiculous right now. Home plate umpire took the bats away from them at least twice with called third strikes that weren't strikes....Worked the count, just never got the big hit they needed. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 7, 2022 23:12:53 GMT -8
They looked fine for 8 1/2 innings. It's one game. The pitching looked great for 8 1/2 innings. The hitting, not so much. But, yeah, it's ONE game. Over reacting is ridiculous right now. Oh, I completely understand that one game out of 162, especially the first of that 162, doesn't mean much at all. But against what is supposed to be a weak opponent - a team they're supposed to beat - this was a very disappointing loss. And I'm VERY negative when it comes to the Padres. It's been 24 years since they've been a legit contender. 3 or 4 owners/ownership groups, 4 different GM's, at least 4 different managers - and the same results. I've just come to expect this team to fail. That's really all they've done for almost a quarter century. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 7, 2022 23:57:50 GMT -8
The pitching looked great for 8 1/2 innings. The hitting, not so much. But, yeah, it's ONE game. Over reacting is ridiculous right now. Oh, I completely understand that one game out of 162, especially the first of that 162, doesn't mean much at all. But against what is supposed to be a weak opponent - a team they're supposed to beat - this was a very disappointing loss. And I'm VERY negative when it comes to the Padres. It's been 24 years since they've been a legit contender. 3 or 4 owners/ownership groups, 4 different GM's, at least 4 different managers - and the same results. I've just come to expect this team to fail. That's really all they've done for almost a quarter century. I understand where you're coming from. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 8, 2022 7:45:33 GMT -8
The pitching looked great for 8 1/2 innings. The hitting, not so much. But, yeah, it's ONE game. Over reacting is ridiculous right now. Oh, I completely understand that one game out of 162, especially the first of that 162, doesn't mean much at all. But against what is supposed to be a weak opponent - a team they're supposed to beat - this was a very disappointing loss. And I'm VERY negative when it comes to the Padres. It's been 24 years since they've been a legit contender. 3 or 4 owners/ownership groups, 4 different GM's, at least 4 different managers - and the same results. I've just come to expect this team to fail. That's really all they've done for almost a quarter century. The Padres historically are awful in Arizona. Bad teams still win baseball games a relatively decent percentage of the time. The Cubs beat the reigning Cy Young winner yesterday with Jason Heyward's corpse, Ian Happ, Frank Schwindel and Patrick Wisdom. There is a ton of randomness associated with one outcome. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 8, 2022 8:14:46 GMT -8
Oh, I completely understand that one game out of 162, especially the first of that 162, doesn't mean much at all. But against what is supposed to be a weak opponent - a team they're supposed to beat - this was a very disappointing loss. And I'm VERY negative when it comes to the Padres. It's been 24 years since they've been a legit contender. 3 or 4 owners/ownership groups, 4 different GM's, at least 4 different managers - and the same results. I've just come to expect this team to fail. That's really all they've done for almost a quarter century. The Padres historically are awful in Arizona. Bad teams still win baseball games a relatively decent percentage of the time. The Cubs beat the reigning Cy Young winner yesterday with Jason Heyward's corpse, Ian Happ, Frank Schwindel and Patrick Wisdom. There is a ton of randomness associated with one outcome. No one excuses the Padres like you do. You're the master. Maybe you've enjoyed the post-1998 era, but most of us haven't. At all. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 8, 2022 8:25:02 GMT -8
The Padres historically are awful in Arizona. Bad teams still win baseball games a relatively decent percentage of the time. The Cubs beat the reigning Cy Young winner yesterday with Jason Heyward's corpse, Ian Happ, Frank Schwindel and Patrick Wisdom. There is a ton of randomness associated with one outcome. No one excuses the Padres like you do. You're the master. Maybe you've enjoyed the post-1998 era, but most of us haven't. At all. Enjoyed it? No. Realize that it happens and made peace with it after ONE game? Yes. Insanity doesn't have to reign. You don't have to drive yourself nuts over things you can't control. Those aren't excuses. There's no useful purpose in overreacting 12 hours after the season begins. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 8, 2022 8:28:17 GMT -8
The pitching looked great for 8 1/2 innings. The hitting, not so much. But, yeah, it's ONE game. Over reacting is ridiculous right now. Home plate umpire took the bats away from them at least twice with called third strikes that weren't strikes....Worked the count, just never got the big hit they needed. To sum it up, they didn't hit the ball very well. Today's another day. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 8, 2022 8:28:58 GMT -8
No one excuses the Padres like you do. You're the master. Maybe you've enjoyed the post-1998 era, but most of us haven't. At all. Enjoyed it? No. Realize that it happens and made peace with it after ONE game? Yes. Insanity doesn't have to reign. You don't have to drive yourself nuts over things you can't control. Those aren't excuses. There's no useful purpose in overreacting 12 hours after the season begins. It's 24 years, not one game. That one game fits the profile of the last 24 years. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 8, 2022 8:33:13 GMT -8
Enjoyed it? No. Realize that it happens and made peace with it after ONE game? Yes. Insanity doesn't have to reign. You don't have to drive yourself nuts over things you can't control. Those aren't excuses. There's no useful purpose in overreacting 12 hours after the season begins. It's 24 years, not one game. That one game fits the profile of the last 24 years. Irrelevant comparisons don't change anything and justify bad takes like this. You're complaining about them not having a closer when they literally just got one 24 hours ago. He just wasn't available to pitch last night. But if you're going to immediately jump on here and drop the armchair sensationalism, then go for it. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Apr 8, 2022 9:03:55 GMT -8
It's 24 years, not one game. That one game fits the profile of the last 24 years. Irrelevant comparisons don't change anything and justify bad takes like this. You're complaining about them not having a closer when they literally just got one 24 hours ago. He just wasn't available to pitch last night. But if you're going to immediately jump on here and drop the armchair sensationalism, then go for it. We'll see how he works out. Historically, players come to the Padres and underachieve. Sorry if I don't share your optimism. This league has beaten it out of me over the last 24 years. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 8, 2022 9:21:18 GMT -8
Irrelevant comparisons don't change anything and justify bad takes like this. You're complaining about them not having a closer when they literally just got one 24 hours ago. He just wasn't available to pitch last night. But if you're going to immediately jump on here and drop the armchair sensationalism, then go for it. We'll see how he works out. Historically, players come to the Padres and underachieve. Sorry if I don't share your optimism. This league has beaten it out of me over the last 24 years. The last 24 years could make anybody cynical towards the Padres. I get it. Just like I did with the Chargers, I keep saying this is the year, only to be let down. I usually give it to the All Star break before I start my cynicism. Lol. |
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Post by junior on Apr 8, 2022 11:56:14 GMT -8
Hope "SPRINGS" eternal with the Padres. It's rough, however, when a team pretty much dominates the other for 8 1/2 innings only to fail miserably when the ball must miss the bats.
The season's underway, regardless of the calendar or PT. No excuses. These guys are professionals … they lost last night's game in the worst possible way. We'll see how well Rogers fills an obvious hole in the pitching staff. And we'll see how well the relief staff can get themselves contest ready.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 8, 2022 12:20:13 GMT -8
The best closer in the American League just gave up a two run single to 73 year old Miguel Cabrera to blow the save.
It happens.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 8, 2022 12:33:45 GMT -8
The beat closer in the American League just gave up a two run single to 73 year old Miguel Cabrera to blow the save. It happens. I think some people have the attitude of, "Here we go again" regardless if it's game 1 or game 81, because of the history. It's not my approach, but I get it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 8, 2022 12:55:12 GMT -8
The best closer in the American League just gave up a two run single to 73 year old Miguel Cabrera to blow the save. It happens. Happened again and the White Sox lose. |
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