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Apr 27, 2022 16:56:52 GMT -8
Post by aardvark on Apr 27, 2022 16:56:52 GMT -8
I'm sure someone here will have an opinion about how many innings/pitches Gore will get to throw this season. He's not going to make things easy for the Padres in terms of where he throws those pitches this year. He's already at 10K tonight, with little or no loss of velocity or control after 101 pitches. Hopefully the remainder of whatever number of pitches he gets to make will be in the majors this season. Impressive isn't quite the most superlative word that might be used tonight. Always room for improvement, but there's very little to complain about in tonight's performance. Yes, the Reds truly suck. But this was their second crack at Gore in a week, and it does not look like they learned a thing from their previous experiences with him. Of course, that lack of ability to learn could easily be the #1 reason the Reds will probably continue to suck this year. Still, they looked even worse against him tonight than they did in San Diego. I'd say Gore was the one who learned a bit in his first start against the Reds.
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Apr 27, 2022 17:03:50 GMT -8
Post by junior on Apr 27, 2022 17:03:50 GMT -8
I'm sure someone here will have an opinion about how many innings/pitches Gore will get to throw this season. He's not going to make things easy for the Padres in terms of where he throws those pitches this year. He's already at 10K tonight, with little or no loss of velocity or control after 101 pitches. Hopefully the remainder of whatever number of pitches he gets to make will be in the majors this season. Impressive isn't quite the most superlative word that might be used tonight. Always room for improvement, but there's very little to complain about in tonight's performance. Yes, the Reds truly suck. But this was their second crack at Gore in a week, and it does not look like they learned a thing from their previous experiences with him. Of course, that lack of ability to learn could easily be the #1 reason the Reds will probably continue to suck this year. Still, they looked even worse against him tonight than they did in San Diego. I'd say Gore was the one who learned a bit in his first start against the Reds. Oh, most certainly, and that's a huge jump in any young pitcher's development. His steps are becoming jumps at this point. Whatever happened to him as a professional ball player during the past year is paying yuge dividends for him - and the Padres - right now. I hope he continues with this level of progress. Seems like he's maybe already hit his own personal wall, learned how to get over/around it, and the game continues falling into all the right places for him.
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Gore.
Apr 27, 2022 18:06:27 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2022 18:06:27 GMT -8
Nice outing !!
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Apr 27, 2022 18:30:06 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Apr 27, 2022 18:30:06 GMT -8
Gore is killing it this year
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Apr 27, 2022 19:45:34 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 27, 2022 19:45:34 GMT -8
He looks nasty, although it was against the Reds. I'm really excited to see what he can do against a GOOD team.
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Apr 27, 2022 20:51:48 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 27, 2022 20:51:48 GMT -8
I'm sure someone here will have an opinion about how many innings/pitches Gore will get to throw this season. He's not going to make things easy for the Padres in terms of where he throws those pitches this year. He's already at 10K tonight, with little or no loss of velocity or control after 101 pitches. Hopefully the remainder of whatever number of pitches he gets to make will be in the majors this season. Impressive isn't quite the most superlative word that might be used tonight. Always room for improvement, but there's very little to complain about in tonight's performance. Yes, the Reds truly suck. But this was their second crack at Gore in a week, and it does not look like they learned a thing from their previous experiences with him. Of course, that lack of ability to learn could easily be the #1 reason the Reds will probably continue to suck this year. Still, they looked even worse against him tonight than they did in San Diego. The number being floated around by the organization is 125 innings.
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Apr 27, 2022 21:11:10 GMT -8
Post by aardvark on Apr 27, 2022 21:11:10 GMT -8
I'm sure someone here will have an opinion about how many innings/pitches Gore will get to throw this season. He's not going to make things easy for the Padres in terms of where he throws those pitches this year. He's already at 10K tonight, with little or no loss of velocity or control after 101 pitches. Hopefully the remainder of whatever number of pitches he gets to make will be in the majors this season. Impressive isn't quite the most superlative word that might be used tonight. Always room for improvement, but there's very little to complain about in tonight's performance. Yes, the Reds truly suck. But this was their second crack at Gore in a week, and it does not look like they learned a thing from their previous experiences with him. Of course, that lack of ability to learn could easily be the #1 reason the Reds will probably continue to suck this year. Still, they looked even worse against him tonight than they did in San Diego. The number being floated around by the organization is 125 innings. Assuming he stays up and stays healthy (and stays in the rotation), Gore might make it to the beginning of September.
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Gore.
Apr 27, 2022 23:10:09 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 27, 2022 23:10:09 GMT -8
The number being floated around by the organization is 125 innings. Assuming he stays up and stays healthy (and stays in the rotation), Gore might make it to the beginning of September. Not sure it's a hard cap, but that was the number I heard from folks in the know. Long way to go before ww get there. Clevinger and Snell coming back changes the dynamic pretty heavily.
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Apr 28, 2022 0:16:38 GMT -8
Post by sdsuball on Apr 28, 2022 0:16:38 GMT -8
Assuming he stays up and stays healthy (and stays in the rotation), Gore might make it to the beginning of September. Not sure it's a hard cap, but that was the number I heard from folks in the know. Long way to go before ww get there. Clevinger and Snell coming back changes the dynamic pretty heavily. Will it change the number of innings that he pitches, being at AAA instead of the Majors? (ie. will they keep a pitch/innings count on him in AAA so that he is still available into August/September?
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 28, 2022 8:00:52 GMT -8
Not sure it's a hard cap, but that was the number I heard from folks in the know. Long way to go before ww get there. Clevinger and Snell coming back changes the dynamic pretty heavily. Will it change the number of innings that he pitches, being at AAA instead of the Majors? (ie. will they keep a pitch/innings count on him in AAA so that he is still available into August/September? Nope. Innings are innings.
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Apr 28, 2022 10:46:52 GMT -8
Post by junior on Apr 28, 2022 10:46:52 GMT -8
… if at all possible - and his development continues on its upward slope - as a fan I'd rather see Gore's innings be with the Padres. But it's going to be a bit of a mess if both Snell and Clevenger come back firing bullets and they both remain healthy. Padres spent a lot of money on Martinez, and from what I've read, there are no options for him. So Gore gets to be the #7 man? As it plays out now, there could conceivably be six healthy arms in the rotation within the next few weeks. I guess it could be the case that Gore remains in the BP and spot starts or pitches in long relief - maybe Crismatt goes back down? But I'm not sure if spot starting and long relief is ideal from a development standpoint … and not sure it's a great problem to have, either.
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Apr 29, 2022 6:32:57 GMT -8
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 29, 2022 6:32:57 GMT -8
… if at all possible - and his development continues on its upward slope - as a fan I'd rather see Gore's innings be with the Padres. But it's going to be a bit of a mess if both Snell and Clevenger come back firing bullets and they both remain healthy. Padres spent a lot of money on Martinez, and from what I've read, there are no options for him. So Gore gets to be the #7 man? As it plays out now, there could conceivably be six healthy arms in the rotation within the next few weeks. I guess it could be the case that Gore remains in the BP and spot starts or pitches in long relief - maybe Crismatt goes back down? But I'm not sure if spot starting and long relief is ideal from a development standpoint … and not sure it's a great problem to have, either. I think there's zero chance Gore pitches out of the bullpen. Assuming 100% health among all the others, which is far from a guarantee, I expect Gore to be at AAA and Martinez in long relief with flexibility to make a trade.
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Apr 29, 2022 14:47:25 GMT -8
Post by junior on Apr 29, 2022 14:47:25 GMT -8
… if at all possible - and his development continues on its upward slope - as a fan I'd rather see Gore's innings be with the Padres. But it's going to be a bit of a mess if both Snell and Clevenger come back firing bullets and they both remain healthy. Padres spent a lot of money on Martinez, and from what I've read, there are no options for him. So Gore gets to be the #7 man? As it plays out now, there could conceivably be six healthy arms in the rotation within the next few weeks. I guess it could be the case that Gore remains in the BP and spot starts or pitches in long relief - maybe Crismatt goes back down? But I'm not sure if spot starting and long relief is ideal from a development standpoint … and not sure it's a great problem to have, either. I think there's zero chance Gore pitches out of the bullpen. Assuming 100% health among all the others, which is far from a guarantee, I expect Gore to be at AAA and Martinez in long relief with flexibility to make a trade. This may have to happen eventually. Even if the Padres were to pitch Snell/Clevenger B2B in games as "starter" for awhile, they would have to carry 7 starters! (Manea, Musgrove, Darvish, Martinez, Snell, Clevenger, Gore) When they have to go back to 13 pitchers on the roster, that'll be problematic. Even if Martinez goes the long relief route - and that, too, I guess could be one option, they might still have too many arms. They're probably going to have to make a trade at some point - try and recapture some value before there's none left - or DFA someone. Maybe there's a team who'll take a chance with Lamet … because right now, I'm not sure what his job is in San Diego. Of course, all it takes is one or two of these arms to blow up, and they'll be needing all these guys, and fortunately for them time is on their side right now - but it won't be soon.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 29, 2022 17:15:08 GMT -8
I think there's zero chance Gore pitches out of the bullpen. Assuming 100% health among all the others, which is far from a guarantee, I expect Gore to be at AAA and Martinez in long relief with flexibility to make a trade. This may have to happen eventually. Even if the Padres were to pitch Snell/Clevenger B2B in games as "starter" for awhile, they would have to carry 7 starters! (Manea, Musgrove, Darvish, Martinez, Snell, Clevenger, Gore) When they have to go back to 13 pitchers on the roster, that'll be problematic. Even if Martinez goes the long relief route - and that, too, I guess could be one option, they might still have too many arms. They're probably going to have to make a trade at some point - try and recapture some value before there's none left - or DFA someone. Maybe there's a team who'll take a chance with Lamet … because right now, I'm not sure what his job is in San Diego. Of course, all it takes is one or two of these arms to blow up, and they'll be needing all these guys, and fortunately for them time is on their side right now - but it won't be soon. Gore isn't going to the bullpen. He may be going into a piggyback type role, but he's not pitching as a pure reliever.
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May 4, 2022 17:09:30 GMT -8
Post by junior on May 4, 2022 17:09:30 GMT -8
Gore with another strong outing. Just can't depend on the BP right now onto hold a lead…
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May 22, 2022 13:07:05 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on May 22, 2022 13:07:05 GMT -8
He's arrived.
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May 22, 2022 13:41:01 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on May 22, 2022 13:41:01 GMT -8
I'm dreaming of a Clayton Kershaw type of career for Mackenzie Gore. 98 at the knees. Incredible.
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Gore.
Jun 6, 2022 11:45:38 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 6, 2022 11:45:38 GMT -8
Since April 16th:
11.39 K/9 - 7th best in MLB 1.27 ERA - 2nd best in MLB 1.80 FIP - Leads MLB 31.8 K% - 4th in MLB 1.7 fWAR - 6th in MLB
He's been the best starter on the staff for the Padres and it's not really all that close.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 6, 2022 12:00:49 GMT -8
Since April 16th: 11.39 K/9 - 7th best in MLB 1.27 ERA - 2nd best in MLB 1.80 FIP - Leads MLB 31.8 K% - 4th in MLB 1.7 fWAR - 6th in MLB He's been the best starter on the staff for the Padres and it's not really all that close. Not really all that close? Joe Musgrove would like a word with you. What are Joe's stats compared to Gore?
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Jun 6, 2022 12:22:50 GMT -8
Post by junior on Jun 6, 2022 12:22:50 GMT -8
Gore has been lights out, as mentioned by his manager and easily witnessed by fans. His 4-seam fastball is almost unhittable, and his slider pretty much is unhittable. Realistically, though, he'll be shut down before the end of the season. Whether or not they play with the innings or not before he gets to a limit, right now they're letting him rip.
So until then, just enjoy the ride.
Musgrove, and others, OTOH should be leading the staff into October… Someday it'll be Gore.
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