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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 3, 2019 13:11:55 GMT -8
Hate to break it to you all, but Horton is going to be the OC next year. Rocky's not making a change. He has said that the offense's problems has been on execution, not scheme. That's his nice way of not throwing the players under the bus and it is the players (particularly the OL) who are the problem. We have immobile and ineffective OL and it doesn't matter what scheme you run if your OL is not effective you can't execute plays. Who recruited and has attempted to develop the OL? Who recruited a given player depends on what coach has been assigned to the region that said recruit is from.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Dec 3, 2019 13:12:57 GMT -8
chris peterson or kevin o connell For Head Coach? I really hope you aren't hoping for the OC spot. Kevin O'Connell is an NFL Offensive Coordinator. Why would he step down from that to be an OC for a G5 program and make a fraction of what he is making now and can potentially make by sticking in the NFL? Chip Kelley wanted him and Washington promoted him... Jeremy UCLA OC makes $650k
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 3, 2019 13:15:52 GMT -8
For Head Coach? I really hope you aren't hoping for the OC spot. Kevin O'Connell is an NFL Offensive Coordinator. Why would he step down from that to be an OC for a G5 program and make a fraction of what he is making now and can potentially make by sticking in the NFL? Chip Kelley wanted him and Washington promoted him... Jeremy UCLA OC makes $650k Your point?
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Post by Boise Aztec on Dec 3, 2019 13:18:00 GMT -8
Chip Kelley wanted him and Washington promoted him... Jeremy UCLA OC makes $650k Your point? Support to your point, even if they get rid of the staff in Washington and he can’t get an NFL slot this coming year folks like UCLA who can pay $650k will want him...
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 3, 2019 13:26:21 GMT -8
For Head Coach? I really hope you aren't hoping for the OC spot. Kevin O'Connell is an NFL Offensive Coordinator. Why would he step down from that to be an OC for a G5 program and make a fraction of what he is making now and can potentially make by sticking in the NFL? Chip Kelley wanted him and Washington promoted him... Jeremy UCLA OC makes $650k Chip Kelly is the Offensive coordination of UCLA. There isn't a guy named Jeremy on UCLA's coaching staff. SDSU is not UCLA. We do not have the budget of a Pac12/P5 program. We are not paying an OC $650K. People need to stop thinking we can budget like the P5's do. Also, O'Connell is making much more than $650K as an NFL offensive coordinator. He is also building a reputation like those young new age offensive minds who are becoming NFL head coaches. Every time I see a Redskins game, Kevin's name is dropped numerous times with praise and "Up and comming". Why throw that all away and become a G5 offensive coordinator? Heck, he would even throw that away by becoming a Pac12 offensive coordinator.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 3, 2019 13:29:12 GMT -8
Support to your point, even if they get rid of the staff in Washington and he can’t get an NFL slot this coming year folks like UCLA who can pay $650k will want him... I see. Thanks! I agree. My apologies for thinking you were trying to disprove me. Read your comment wrong. His job is safe in Washington. They really like him there. He wouldn't take a P5 OC job let alone a measly G5 program OC job. He is right where he needs to be.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Dec 3, 2019 13:30:18 GMT -8
Chip Kelley wanted him and Washington promoted him... Jeremy UCLA OC makes $650k Chip Kelly is the Offensive coordination of UCLA. There isn't a guy named Jeremy on UCLA's coaching staff. SDSU is not UCLA. We do not have the budget of a Pac12/P5 program. We are not paying an OC $650K. People need to stop thinking we can budget like the P5's do. Also, O'Connell is making much more than $650K as an NFL offensive coordinator. He is also building a reputation like those young new age offensive minds who are becoming NFL head coaches. Every time I see a Redskins game, Kevin's name is dropped numerous times with praise and "Up and comming". Why throw that all away and become a G5 offensive coordinator? Heck, he would even throw that away by becoming a Pac12 offensive coordinator. sorry spell check Justin Frye is the OC and according to the USA database he made $650k in 2018... again, I was supporting your point...
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 3, 2019 13:34:29 GMT -8
Chip Kelly is the Offensive coordination of UCLA. There isn't a guy named Jeremy on UCLA's coaching staff. SDSU is not UCLA. We do not have the budget of a Pac12/P5 program. We are not paying an OC $650K. People need to stop thinking we can budget like the P5's do. Also, O'Connell is making much more than $650K as an NFL offensive coordinator. He is also building a reputation like those young new age offensive minds who are becoming NFL head coaches. Every time I see a Redskins game, Kevin's name is dropped numerous times with praise and "Up and comming". Why throw that all away and become a G5 offensive coordinator? Heck, he would even throw that away by becoming a Pac12 offensive coordinator. sorry spell check Justin Frye is the OC and according to the USA database he made $650k in 2018... again, I was supporting your point... Thanks! Yah, wouldn't exactly call Justin Frye the OC of UCLA. That's Chip Kelly's offense that is being ran and Chip Kelly that is making the calls. a guy like Frye in that type of position is up in the booth spotting and offering input and making suggestions - essentially a co-offensive coordinator, but Chip Kelly is the guy.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Dec 3, 2019 13:40:00 GMT -8
sorry spell check Justin Frye is the OC and according to the USA database he made $650k in 2018... again, I was supporting your point... Thanks! Yah, wouldn't exactly call Justin Frye the OC of UCLA. That's Chip Kelly's offense that is being ran and Chip Kelly that is making the calls. a guy like Frye in that type of position is up in the booth spotting and offering input and making suggestions - essentially a co-offensive coordinator, but Chip Kelly is the guy. True
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Post by bagtec on Dec 3, 2019 16:55:52 GMT -8
prepare to be disappointed
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Post by fowl on Dec 3, 2019 17:06:30 GMT -8
Hate to break it to you all, but Horton is going to be the OC next year. Rocky's not making a change. He has said that the offense's problems has been on execution, not scheme. That's his nice way of not throwing the players under the bus and it is the players (particularly the OL) who are the problem. We have immobile and ineffective OL and it doesn't matter what scheme you run if your OL is not effective you can't execute plays. From what I have heard your interpretation is the exact opposite of what Rocky has said publicly and privately... He has been asked specifically if it is the players and has said that it isn’t the players it is the execution of the scheme... I could be wrong, but I think he will make a change... You could be correct. I guess I interpreted his responses as him taking blame off of the players to protect them. I thought that if we indeed did have talented players on offense that at least one game their talent would overcome the lack of scheme and we'd have scored 30+ points on at least one MWC defense. We only scored over 30 once - against NMSU who had the 124th ranked defense in the country. We played three other schools (UCLA [112th], UNLV [104th], and SJSU [105th]) with defenses ranked worse than 100th and our offense scored no more than 23 in any of those (20 vs SJSU, 13 vs UNLV, 23 vs UCLA). Even against NMSU when we scored TD's our drives were 3 yards (thanks to a fumble recovery by the D), 80 yards, 29 yards (thanks to our defense getting an interception), and 75 yards. Even the lone FG in that game came on a 26 yard drive. If you've got good talent on offense you should be able to put up a bunch of points on sub-100 ranked defenses regardless of scheme/play calling.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Dec 3, 2019 18:37:59 GMT -8
I’m starting to believe more each day that Horton will be back for another year. If so, everyone should email Wicker so maybe he has the talk with Rocky that Horton gets one more year. The offense cost us a chance of a MW Championship and decrease our crowd size.
Unfortunately I think our only hope is that Morgan moves on and we bring someone in as a passing coordinator.
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Post by ramrodd23 on Dec 3, 2019 18:43:12 GMT -8
I’m starting to believe more each day that Horton will be back for another year. If so, everyone should email Wicker so maybe he has the talk with Rocky that Horton gets one more year. The offense cost us a chance of a MW Championship and decrease our crowd size. Unfortunately I think our only hope is that Morgan moves on and we bring someone in as a passing coordinator. Everyone wanted him gone last year. Horton has already got his one year. If, he stays you will see a lot less people in the stands.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 3, 2019 19:42:45 GMT -8
I’m starting to believe more each day that Horton will be back for another year. If so, everyone should email Wicker so maybe he has the talk with Rocky that Horton gets one more year. The offense cost us a chance of a MW Championship and decrease our crowd size. I thought that too. I go back-and-forth between this and thinking Rocky is old school. Keeps a lot of stuff in house until an action takes place. That's my best hope
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Post by tttrojan4life on Dec 3, 2019 19:52:40 GMT -8
Sanchez!
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Post by aztecbb on Dec 3, 2019 20:32:35 GMT -8
Great post - I'd love any of the 3 or Martz. Do not want any little sisters off the hill including a drunken Harbaugh.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Dec 3, 2019 21:55:32 GMT -8
Great post - I'd love any of the 3 or Martz. Do not want any little sisters off the hill including a drunken Harbaugh. Christian Taylor was an Aztec before he became a Toreros. Look at what he did at USD. I would take him in a heart beat. Especially when considering who our OC is now. usdtoreros.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/christian-taylor/1334
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Post by sinnerboy on Dec 4, 2019 6:26:59 GMT -8
Rocky not let Horton retire...my God, he should be forcing Horton to retire or fire him. Horton's offenses have stunk, even trying to jazz it up with spread elements this season didn't help. What a waste of a great defense.
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Post by sinnerboy on Dec 4, 2019 6:31:18 GMT -8
Dude, Brady wouldn't come to SDSU even to take Rocky's job. Do you follow national media at all?
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Post by sinnerboy on Dec 4, 2019 6:37:46 GMT -8
How is this not covering his friend's butt and throwing the players under the bus? Problems with execution are as much on the coaches as it is on the players. Rocky should buck up and make the long overdue change. Hate to break it to you all, but Horton is going to be the OC next year. Rocky's not making a change. He has said that the offense's problems has been on execution, not scheme. That's his nice way of not throwing the players under the bus and it is the players (particularly the OL) who are the problem. We have immobile and ineffective OL and it doesn't matter what scheme you run if your OL is not effective you can't execute plays. IF Rocky keeps Horton he will lose a lot of support. A lot.
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