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Post by survalli on Aug 24, 2019 19:20:24 GMT -8
My post was more a comment on how badly Reyes was doing. How could anyone think I was in any way saying the two players are comparable? Trammell isn't doing much better, in a much lower-level league. Trammell, I fear, will be a great disappointment. I am much more concerned over a guy that is hitting .207 since May 1st, and .171 since we have had him. Reyes? Meh. He isn't our concern any longer. Trammel doing better than Reyes? That is debatable. hit another home run today, 3 RBI's.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 24, 2019 22:00:40 GMT -8
Trammell isn't doing much better, in a much lower-level league. Trammell, I fear, will be a great disappointment. I am much more concerned over a guy that is hitting .207 since May 1st, and .171 since we have had him. Reyes? Meh. He isn't our concern any longer. Trammel doing better than Reyes? That is debatable. hit another home run today, 3 RBI's. Yep. After today, Reyes is hitting better than Trammell, .167 versus .165. Woo Hoo.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 25, 2019 8:49:33 GMT -8
Those are in age appropriate leagues. :rotflmao At 22, Reyes was already playing for the Padres. I sincerely doubt Trammell reaches the bigs by next season, when he is 22. Not even close. He'll be up next year.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 25, 2019 10:12:55 GMT -8
:rotflmao At 22, Reyes was already playing for the Padres. I sincerely doubt Trammell reaches the bigs by next season, when he is 22. Not even close. He'll be up next year. IMO, that is extremely doubtful. At best.
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Post by azteca on Aug 25, 2019 10:25:38 GMT -8
If they do bring him up it will most likely be because of the pressure to validate the trade, IMO.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 25, 2019 10:33:53 GMT -8
If they do bring him up it will most likely be because of the pressure to validate the trade, IMO. He has to be added to the 40 man roster by next offseason.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 25, 2019 10:34:19 GMT -8
IMO, that is extremely doubtful. At best. Prepare yourself.
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Post by azteca on Aug 25, 2019 11:18:22 GMT -8
If they do bring him up it will most likely be because of the pressure to validate the trade, IMO. He has to be added to the 40 man roster by next offseason. Well, then I guess the pressure’s on both Trammell and the organization that so prize him😲
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Post by survalli on Aug 25, 2019 12:55:40 GMT -8
Trammel doing better than Reyes? That is debatable. hit another home run today, 3 RBI's. Yep. After today, Reyes is hitting better than Trammell, .167 versus .165. Woo Hoo. Reyes, 2 home runs 4 RBI's today for the Indians. His 2 day stat line, pretty much eclipses Trammell's 23 games with Amarillo. Trammell needs to be demoted to single A. The audacity of the trade and what Preller was able to get away with. He traded away a young player at the beginning stages of his career who is on pace to hit 40 home runs in only his second year, in which he played part time, for a project just 2 years younger who can barely hit at the AA level. I suppose this Preller's way of making up for his days trying to pass off damaged goods to other teams.
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Post by azteca on Aug 25, 2019 13:08:30 GMT -8
Yep. After today, Reyes is hitting better than Trammell, .167 versus .165. Woo Hoo. Reyes, 2 home runs 4 RBI's today for the Indians. His 2 day stat line, pretty much eclipses Trammell's 23 games with Amarillo. Trammell needs to be demoted to single A. The audacity of the trade and what Preller was able to get away with. He traded away a young player at the beginning stages of his career who is on pace to hit 40 home runs in only his second year, in which he played part time, for a project just 2 years younger who can barely hit at the AA level. I suppose this Preller's way of making up for his days trying to pass off damaged goods to other teams. Agreed!!
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Post by aardvark on Aug 25, 2019 15:43:44 GMT -8
IMO, that is extremely doubtful. At best. Prepare yourself. I will be VERY surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 18:36:03 GMT -8
Yep. After today, Reyes is hitting better than Trammell, .167 versus .165. Woo Hoo. Reyes, 2 home runs 4 RBI's today for the Indians. His 2 day stat line, pretty much eclipses Trammell's 23 games with Amarillo. Trammell needs to be demoted to single A. The audacity of the trade and what Preller was able to get away with. He traded away a young player at the beginning stages of his career who is on pace to hit 40 home runs in only his second year, in which he played part time, for a project just 2 years younger who can barely hit at the AA level. I suppose this Preller's way of making up for his days trying to pass off damaged goods to other teams. Exactly!! The Padres/Preller will spend the time to try and make a minor league guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag a better offensive player, but won't spend the time making a major league guy who is crushing the ball and a clubhouse favorite a better defensive player. Makes a lot of analytical sense. 🙄
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Post by survalli on Aug 25, 2019 19:00:58 GMT -8
Reyes, 2 home runs 4 RBI's today for the Indians. His 2 day stat line, pretty much eclipses Trammell's 23 games with Amarillo. Trammell needs to be demoted to single A. The audacity of the trade and what Preller was able to get away with. He traded away a young player at the beginning stages of his career who is on pace to hit 40 home runs in only his second year, in which he played part time, for a project just 2 years younger who can barely hit at the AA level. I suppose this Preller's way of making up for his days trying to pass off damaged goods to other teams. Exactly!! The Padres/Preller will spend the time to try and make a minor league guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag a better offensive player, but won't spend the time making a major league guy who is crushing the ball and a clubhouse favorite a better defensive player. Makes a lot of analytical sense. 🙄 Ryan won the argument when he said analytics told him that there has never been a successful player of Franmil's size. btw i just realized we didnt even get the best minor league player involved in the trade. that honor belongs to Scott Moss.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2019 19:18:50 GMT -8
Exactly!! The Padres/Preller will spend the time to try and make a minor league guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag a better offensive player, but won't spend the time making a major league guy who is crushing the ball and a clubhouse favorite a better defensive player. Makes a lot of analytical sense. 🙄 Ryan won the argument when he said analytics told him that there has never been a successful player of Franmil's size. btw i just realized we didnt even get the best minor league player involved in the trade. that honor belongs to Scott Moss. You are pretty wishy-washy. First you make it sound like you don't like the trade. Then, you make it sound kind of like you are defending it. I have been around the game of baseball long enough to know all this analytical crap is ruining the game. And if you or anyone else is trying to convince me that a player with Franmil's size can't be successful at the MLB level, I have to call BS!!
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 25, 2019 20:14:06 GMT -8
Exactly!! The Padres/Preller will spend the time to try and make a minor league guy who can't hit his way out of a paper bag a better offensive player, but won't spend the time making a major league guy who is crushing the ball and a clubhouse favorite a better defensive player. Makes a lot of analytical sense. 🙄 Ryan won the argument when he said analytics told him that there has never been a successful player of Franmil's size. btw i just realized we didnt even get the best minor league player involved in the trade. that honor belongs to Scott Moss. There are levels of dumb, then there is this post. Analytics didn't tell me anything. History did. Find another player with his body type who had actual success in the majors. You won't. Stop obsessing over home runs in the juiced ball era.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 25, 2019 20:15:54 GMT -8
Ryan won the argument when he said analytics told him that there has never been a successful player of Franmil's size. btw i just realized we didnt even get the best minor league player involved in the trade. that honor belongs to Scott Moss. You are pretty wishy-washy. First you make it sound like you don't like the trade. Then, you make it sound kind of like you are defending it. I have been around the game of baseball long enough to know all this analytical crap is ruining the game. And if you or anyone else is trying to convince me that a player with Franmil's size can't be successful at the MLB level, I have to call BS!! In the American League? Maybe. In the NL? No. He's a DH. Does the NL have the DH?
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 25, 2019 20:40:40 GMT -8
It boggles my mind that people are obsessing over a guy who is hitting .239 this season, who, despite being on pace to hit 40 home runs, is a replacement level player. The team needs to get AWAY from the all or nothing home run or bust approach - It has been an abject disaster. The Padres are first in strikeout rate, first in soft contact rate, dead last in line drive percentage and struggle to put balls in play on a consistent basis. Having two outfielders who are exactly the same limited profile is a BAD problem to have. Separate the emotion from trading Franmil the person to trading Franmil the player.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 25, 2019 22:25:42 GMT -8
Since Franmil has been removed from the lineup, Renfroe has been slumping, Machado is in one of the worst of his career and Myers hasn’t been able to turn it around. The only player who has thrived without Franmil around is Mejia. Hosmer, Margot have been so so while Urias (who probably misses his buddy) and Hedges have been colder than a Manitoba March. Even the pitching has gone south, Paddock looks like he is serving up batting practice. Quantrill is one of the few bright spots.
The team has played uninspired, sloppy baseball and is 9 games below .500 since the AS break. Early on I would have to say Preller whiffed on the trade, which has sapped the spirit from this squad and Andy Green is obviously not savvy or competent enough to right the ship.
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Post by survalli on Aug 25, 2019 23:24:13 GMT -8
It boggles my mind that people are obsessing over a guy who is hitting .239 this season, who, despite being on pace to hit 40 home runs, is a replacement level player. The team needs to get AWAY from the all or nothing home run or bust approach - It has been an abject disaster. The Padres are first in strikeout rate, first in soft contact rate, dead last in line drive percentage and struggle to put balls in play on a consistent basis. Having two outfielders who are exactly the same limited profile is a BAD problem to have. Separate the emotion from trading Franmil the person to trading Franmil the player. you make very good points on the Padres, I dont mind trading Franmil at all. its what we got that is problem. im not asking for a top of the rotation guy, im not asking for a reliever with 8th inning makeup. i just want a guy who has the makeup of a major league player and not a project.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 9:13:25 GMT -8
I tried to log in all afternoon and it said I was banned. Odd. Yes, he is having a hard time with breaking balls in particular right now. I expect them to work on his swing/load in fall instructs. Ironically he is hitting much better since the Padres acquired him than Reyes is with Cleveland. FRANIMAL unleashed the beast yesterday! MOON SHOTS!
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