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Post by Boise Aztec on Jul 29, 2017 10:45:00 GMT -8
I actually think that the MLS is a legitimate league and could be a Top 10 worldwide league by 2025 or 2030... but not today... 1. Premiership 2. La Liga 3. Bundasliga 4. Serbia A 5. Ligue 1 6. Campeanato Brasileiro 7. Russian Premier League 8. EFL 9. Eredivise 10. 2. Bundisliga 11. J1 Ligue 12. Premeira Liga (Portugal) 13. - 20. Other 2nd divisions in Fance, Italy, etc. Turkey's 1st division and Primera Division Argentina and Liga MX And then maybe somewhere in the 20 to 30 range you will find MLS. As I said there is no reason that MLS can't get up into the Top 10. That still doesn't mean it will be relevant to the average American. I watch a lot of soccer, I am not the average sports fan... If you look at TV contracts you can see that MLS is decades from becoming relevant in the US... 1. NFL $7B+ 2. NBA $2.0B+ 3. MLB $1.2B+ 4. SEC $400M+ 5. B1G $300M+ 6. P12 $300M 7. ACC $225M 8. B12 $220M 9. NHL $200M 10. MLS $80M The average B12 team brings in ~$22M while the average MLS franchise gets less than $4M per year. If you assume that you can bring in $4M in profit from own revenues and count the TV revenue as pure profit then it would take about 20 years to pay back the franchise fee of $150M to $200M... a horrible return. If you look at where the tv revenue would have to come from it isn't likely that MLS will even see a doubling from Media Recenue, but if they did they would still be significantly below The NHL in terms of tv relevance... This has to be one of the worst lists ive ever seen :rotflmao Serbia A, J1 League, Bundesliga 2, Russian Premiere league, PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARENT TROLLING AND YOU REALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU TYPE Not just me... I didn't compile that by myself... If you randomly took 10 teams from MLS and put them with 10 random teams from J1 or RPL or GB2 they would get beat more often than not. Published power rankings have MLS anywhere from 10th to 24th globally. footballdatabase.com/ranking/world/7According to this database FC Dallas is the best MLS team and 335 in the world and Seattle is 555. Avoiding the top leagues that you know are better than MLS... Belgium has six teams ranked higher than Dallas... Argentina has 17 Austria has 2 Brazil has 19 Bulgaria has 5 Chili has 4 Colombia has 6 Czech Republic has 6 Greece has 4 Japan has 6 Mexico has 14 Holland has 7 Portugal has 7 Do I need to go on?
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Post by fanhood on Jul 29, 2017 10:46:23 GMT -8
I don't care. It's not internationally respected one way or another, and the league will never turn a profit. SD is not getting an MLS team, and SDSU will have a stadium and expansion. Sorry. LOL you dont care yet you cared enough to claim them as facts :rotflmao you really have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to soccer or the MLS. I usually just chuckle at your posts and others but this was too much Sorry pal. One google search provides enough evidence to support the claim. I'm actually going to a USL game tonight. See, somebody can objectively say that an MLS franchise is not worth it, while also watching soccer.
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Post by charger90 on Jul 29, 2017 11:02:19 GMT -8
This has to be one of the worst lists ive ever seen :rotflmao Serbia A, J1 League, Bundesliga 2, Russian Premiere league, PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARENT TROLLING AND YOU REALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU TYPE Not just me... I didn't compile that by myself... If you randomly took 10 teams from MLS and put them with 10 random teams from J1 or RPL or GB2 they would get beat more often than not. Published power rankings have MLS anywhere from 10th to 24th globally. footballdatabase.com/ranking/world/7According to this database FC Dallas is the best MLS team and 335 in the world and Seattle is 555. Avoiding the top leagues that you know are better than MLS... Belgium has six teams ranked higher than Dallas... Argentina has 17 Austria has 2 Brazil has 19 Bulgaria has 5 Chili has 4 Colombia has 6 Czech Republic has 6 Greece has 4 Japan has 6 Mexico has 14 Holland has 7 Portugal has 7 Do I need to go on? Well according to your logic Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Algeria, Angola, Mali..etc all have top tier leagues because of their ranked teams
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Post by Boise Aztec on Jul 29, 2017 11:27:56 GMT -8
Not just me... I didn't compile that by myself... If you randomly took 10 teams from MLS and put them with 10 random teams from J1 or RPL or GB2 they would get beat more often than not. Published power rankings have MLS anywhere from 10th to 24th globally. footballdatabase.com/ranking/world/7According to this database FC Dallas is the best MLS team and 335 in the world and Seattle is 555. Avoiding the top leagues that you know are better than MLS... Belgium has six teams ranked higher than Dallas... Argentina has 17 Austria has 2 Brazil has 19 Bulgaria has 5 Chili has 4 Colombia has 6 Czech Republic has 6 Greece has 4 Japan has 6 Mexico has 14 Holland has 7 Portugal has 7 Do I need to go on? Well according to your logic Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Algeria, Angola, Mali..etc all have top tier leagues because of their ranked teams Come on dude... you know what I am saying... if another league has four to 17 teams ranked ahead of the top team in MLS then that league is likely better than MLS. I have nothing against MLS and want a team in San Diego. I also think that MLS can be a Top 10 league given time and a real TV contract allowing for better salaries.
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Post by aztecfred on Jul 29, 2017 17:29:02 GMT -8
Guessing #4 is Serie A the Italian League not Serbia? Not that it's a big deal.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Jul 29, 2017 17:54:40 GMT -8
Guessing #4 is Serie A the Italian League not Serbia? Not that it's a big deal. Yeah, not sure what happened there
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Post by naztec on Jul 30, 2017 8:38:47 GMT -8
This has to be one of the worst lists ive ever seen :rotflmao Serbia A, J1 League, Bundesliga 2, Russian Premiere league, PLEASE TELL ME YOU ARENT TROLLING AND YOU REALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU TYPE Not just me... I didn't compile that by myself... If you randomly took 10 teams from MLS and put them with 10 random teams from J1 or RPL or GB2 they would get beat more often than not. Published power rankings have MLS anywhere from 10th to 24th globally. footballdatabase.com/ranking/world/7According to this database FC Dallas is the best MLS team and 335 in the world and Seattle is 555. Avoiding the top leagues that you know are better than MLS... Belgium has six teams ranked higher than Dallas... Argentina has 17 Austria has 2 Brazil has 19 Bulgaria has 5 Chili has 4 Colombia has 6 Czech Republic has 6 Greece has 4 Japan has 6 Mexico has 14 Holland has 7 Portugal has 7 Do I need to go on? That database has the Estonian Champions Levadia Tallin ranked 47th in the world and The New Saints, champions of Wales, are 63rd. Just three spots ahead of AC Milan, who is 66th. Good list bro. My five year old nephew knows how stupid that is. Anyway, not sure what my Bulgarian and Austrian friends are doing today, but I'm gonna watch Giovinco and Toronto play David Villa and NYCFC in a packed out 30,000 seat stadium.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 30, 2017 9:16:00 GMT -8
Not just me... I didn't compile that by myself... If you randomly took 10 teams from MLS and put them with 10 random teams from J1 or RPL or GB2 they would get beat more often than not. Published power rankings have MLS anywhere from 10th to 24th globally. footballdatabase.com/ranking/world/7According to this database FC Dallas is the best MLS team and 335 in the world and Seattle is 555. Avoiding the top leagues that you know are better than MLS... Belgium has six teams ranked higher than Dallas... Argentina has 17 Austria has 2 Brazil has 19 Bulgaria has 5 Chili has 4 Colombia has 6 Czech Republic has 6 Greece has 4 Japan has 6 Mexico has 14 Holland has 7 Portugal has 7 Do I need to go on? That database has the Estonian Champions Levadia Tallin ranked 47th in the world and The New Saints, champions of Wales, are 63rd. Just three spots ahead of AC Milan, who is 66th. Good list bro. My five year old nephew knows how stupid that is. Anyway, not sure what my Bulgarian and Austrian friends are doing today, but I'm gonna watch Giovinco and Toronto play David Villa and NYCFC in a packed out 30,000 seat stadium. Meh. Looking forward to August 11th. BPL starts again.
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Post by fanhood on Jul 30, 2017 11:12:21 GMT -8
Watching NYC @ Toronto FC. There might be 15,000 people in the stands.
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Post by fanhood on Aug 1, 2017 15:40:41 GMT -8
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Post by aardvark on Aug 1, 2017 18:09:10 GMT -8
It may be getting close to needing life support, but it's still not dead.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Aug 1, 2017 18:11:14 GMT -8
It may be getting close to needing life support, but it's still not dead. It is already on life support.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 1, 2017 18:12:26 GMT -8
It may be getting close to needing life support, but it's still not dead. It is already on life support. But it's still not dead.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Aug 1, 2017 18:15:10 GMT -8
It is already on life support. But it's still not dead. Agreed. Hopefully it will be soon.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 1, 2017 18:24:06 GMT -8
Agreed. Hopefully it will be soon. Probably not until whenever the election will be held for the FSI initiative.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Aug 1, 2017 18:41:11 GMT -8
Agreed. Hopefully it will be soon. Probably not until whenever the election will be held for the FSI initiative. Perhaps. It may just be a formality by then.
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Post by fanhood on Aug 2, 2017 13:09:06 GMT -8
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Post by Boise Aztec on Aug 2, 2017 14:22:37 GMT -8
The funny thing is Detroit is around 6th or 7th and they have a stadium plan all but wrapped up...
Again, I am hopeful that SD can still get an MLS franchise, but SuckerCity won't be the way...
The best solution for soccer fans is for FSI to create another initiative that names SDSU as the land owner and provides for them to give SDSU $75m to $100m for their share of the construction of a 40k seat stadium that can seat 20k to 25k for soccer and then helpnget the signatures needed for the council to approve it without it going to a vote next year.
The problem is that it won't happen because FSI was always about the cash not soccer.
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Post by fanhood on Aug 2, 2017 15:01:20 GMT -8
The funny thing is Detroit is around 6th or 7th and they have a stadium plan all but wrapped up... Again, I am hopeful that SD can still get an MLS franchise, but SuckerCity won't be the way... The best solution for soccer fans is for FSI to create another initiative that names SDSU as the land owner and provides for them to give SDSU $75m to $100m for their share of the construction of a 40k seat stadium that can seat 20k to 25k for soccer and then helpnget the signatures needed for the council to approve it without it going to a vote next year. The problem is that it won't happen because FSI was always about the cash not soccer. Yup, had they played this right, and ensured that SDSU was bought it, this would have already been approved. It would have been simple. Build a Stadium that was appropriate for SDSU. Ensure that SDSU was the owner of the stadium, where SDSU would share revenues with FS. Ensure that SDSU could by 30 to 50 acres at FMV, and the remaining site would have been for FS. This thing would have been approved already, and everyone would be planning for the build out. Alas, it was not to be. Now, SDSU is going to get the land, but Mission Valley will be in purgatory for another 18 months.
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Post by fanhood on Aug 2, 2017 15:05:29 GMT -8
Miami is separate from the ongoing process of 12 cities competing for an eventual four MLS expansion slots, but Garber said he was also encouraged by the current state of the league's expansion efforts even though both St. Louis and San Diego took hits in recent months.
A St. Louis stadium funding measure was rejected by voters, while San Diego's attempt to hold a vote on a stadium project looks set to be delayed until next year.
But Detroit's bid got a boost on Monday when Wayne County executive Warren Evans indicated he prefers a plan by MLS bidders Dan Gilbert and Tom Gores to build a stadium and criminal justice complex. Last week, Sacramento began construction on its stadium project, and Garber recently concluded a successful visit to Nashville.
"I read something the other day about whether or not we're disappointed by where we are. We couldn't be more excited about where we are," he said. "The news out of Detroit was very positive, clearly the groundbreaking in Sacramento was very, very positive, my trip to Nashville was off the charts.
"And there remain lots of different, great markets for us to go to. At some point, somebody is going to be really disappointed, and we're going to have to figure out how to manage that."
Unfortunately for Soccer City, SD is quickly becoming an afterthought. Shame on you FS, shame on you.
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