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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2017 22:53:39 GMT -8
I wasn't looking for validation, my fellow Aztec fan. Just suggesting my perspective on the state of recruiting, which I find to be fairly abysmal at the moment. We've added SEVERAL difference makers between June & August in the past, so no reason to think we won't this summer. As for recruiting overall, it's MAY!! The 2018 class hasn't even started to take form, yet you're pissing all over this class? We add Watson, McD, Schakel & Seiko this year, which is among the most talented influx of talent of ANY team in our conference this year. Yea, that sucks. This is a recruiting sub-forum, and more particularly a 2017 recruiting thread. Watson and McDaniels are not relevant to the topic at hand.
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Post by standiego on May 25, 2017 7:44:48 GMT -8
My bad should have labeled it recruiting for the 2017 -18 team . Bottom line , we need a quality physical guy down low at the 5
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Post by aztecryan on May 25, 2017 8:21:59 GMT -8
I can't wait until we sign someone so we no longer have to hear the same thing a billion times.
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Post by hoobs on May 25, 2017 8:29:54 GMT -8
I can't wait until we sign someone so we no longer have to hear the same thing a billion times. We could have signed McCoy and we'd still hear the same thing 500 million times...
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Post by sdcoug on May 25, 2017 8:56:19 GMT -8
We've added SEVERAL difference makers between June & August in the past, so no reason to think we won't this summer. As for recruiting overall, it's MAY!! The 2018 class hasn't even started to take form, yet you're pissing all over this class? We add Watson, McD, Schakel & Seiko this year, which is among the most talented influx of talent of ANY team in our conference this year. Yea, that sucks. This is a recruiting sub-forum, and more particularly a 2017 recruiting thread. Watson and McDaniels are not relevant to the topic at hand. Transfers are very much a part of recruiting and since Watson is now eligible this year, along with Schakel & Seiko, he is very much relevant to the 2017 recruiting class. As with ANY program, whoever becomes eligible during that year is part of building a team, and last I checked McD will be a Freshman this year. We add 4 players who are as talented if not more so than nearly every program in our conference. And yes, the fact we've added several difference makers between June & August in the past is also relevant to the 2017 recruiting class.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 10:15:39 GMT -8
This is a recruiting sub-forum, and more particularly a 2017 recruiting thread. Watson and McDaniels are not relevant to the topic at hand. Transfers are very much a part of recruiting and since Watson is now eligible this year, along with Schakel & Seiko, he is very much relevant to the 2017 recruiting class. As with ANY program, whoever becomes eligible during that year is part of building a team, and last I checked McD will be a Freshman this year. We add 4 players who are as talented if not more so than nearly every program in our conference. And yes, the fact we've added several difference makers between June & August in the past is also relevant to the 2017 recruiting class. Yes, last year this would have been related to recruiting efforts. Those players have been signed and have been Aztecs for a year already.
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Post by sdcoug on May 25, 2017 11:15:18 GMT -8
Transfers are very much a part of recruiting and since Watson is now eligible this year, along with Schakel & Seiko, he is very much relevant to the 2017 recruiting class. As with ANY program, whoever becomes eligible during that year is part of building a team, and last I checked McD will be a Freshman this year. We add 4 players who are as talented if not more so than nearly every program in our conference. And yes, the fact we've added several difference makers between June & August in the past is also relevant to the 2017 recruiting class. Yes, last year this would have been related to recruiting efforts. Those players have been signed and have been Aztecs for a year already. In 2017 we've added Seiko & Schakel, and if we add 1 decent grad-transfer over the next 2 months this will be an very good recruiting class. If we add any true transfers such as a Bigby-Williams, etc. they are more applicable to our 2018 recruiting class than 2017, since they're eligibility would start with the next class, much like Watson last year with this class. People get way to hung up on when someone commits/signs rather than looking at the much bigger picture, which is the entire make-up of the roster & the eligibility of the players within. Our 2017 class is still in process; our 2018 class, like most, hasn't even begun to take shape yet. Yet apparently some people have closed the door on both based on some of the comments in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 14:41:24 GMT -8
Yes, last year this would have been related to recruiting efforts. Those players have been signed and have been Aztecs for a year already. In 2017 we've added Seiko & Schakel, and if we add 1 decent grad-transfer over the next 2 months this will be an very good recruiting class. If we add any true transfers such as a Bigby-Williams, etc. they are more applicable to our 2018 recruiting class than 2017, since they're eligibility would start with the next class, much like Watson last year with this class. People get way to hung up on when someone commits/signs rather than looking at the much bigger picture, which is the entire make-up of the roster & the eligibility of the players within. Our 2017 class is still in process; our 2018 class, like most, hasn't even begun to take shape yet. Yet apparently some people have closed the door on both based on some of the comments in this thread. Recruiting class is when we sign the prospect.
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Post by Gundo on Jun 1, 2017 10:23:27 GMT -8
As of today 3 spots left to fill for 2017 & 6 to fill in 2018. Many swings and misses so far. Basically 50% of the Aztecs MBB future is still TBD.
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Post by standiego on Jun 1, 2017 14:27:50 GMT -8
For 2017 - would guess that we are really trying to sign a grad transfer for the 5 position . If we do not sign Rooks - Digger do you have any additional recruiting information on Walter Foster 6'8" 235 lbs / believe he was not able to play last year . Previous year at Townsend 22 minutes per game 5 points & 5 rebounds Likes to play D ,as he averaged 1.5 blocks per game ,.
If we can sign a Grad transfer at the 5 . then would guess we look for 1 or maybe 2 regular transfers - depending on the quality out there that want to come play here . So that could take care of the 3 scholarships . Could save a transfer if the quality of guys available is not that great .
A regular transfer or two does take a scholarship from the 2018 group . Coaches are trying to sign 2018 HS guys now or at least line up visits for late summer into fall .
For 2018 base could be 9+ guys : Nolan , Jalen , JH , Devin, Jordan , Adam , Max and Teki ( who could be grad transfers ), plus a regular transfer - plus would hope at least 2 or 3 HS recruits . Does help when you have HS guys to set up the foundation .
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 1, 2017 14:36:26 GMT -8
As of today 3 spots left to fill for 2017 & 6 to fill in 2018. Many swings and misses so far. Basically 50% of the Aztecs MBB future is still TBD. I think at most we'll sign 2 more this year, and we really only need 1. As for 2018, it's JUNE not September. The main evaluation period isn't even over yet, and not that many players have even committed for 2018. I'd love to see us get 1 grad transfer & 1 reg transfer this year (although not critical), 2-3 HS recruits in the fall/winter, and then 2 regular transfers next spring.
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Post by azteccc on Jun 1, 2017 17:51:32 GMT -8
As of today 3 spots left to fill for 2017 & 6 to fill in 2018. Many swings and misses so far. Basically 50% of the Aztecs MBB future is still TBD. Uh, go ahead out to 2021... Basically 100% of the Aztecs MBB future is still TBD?
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Post by Gundo on Jun 1, 2017 18:42:44 GMT -8
As of today 3 spots left to fill for 2017 & 6 to fill in 2018. Many swings and misses so far. Basically 50% of the Aztecs MBB future is still TBD. Uh, go ahead out to 2021... Basically 100% of the Aztecs MBB future is still TBD? You are correct, as in 2025 and 2050. But, its more relevant NOW than it is in 5 years, 10 year 30 years...since we havent signed anyone in a very long time and lost out on many good players who would ave made the team better in 2017, 2018 and 2019.... I understand how math works, I have a business degree from SDSU.
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Post by podpeople on Jun 3, 2017 11:22:11 GMT -8
Uh, go ahead out to 2021... Basically 100% of the Aztecs MBB future is still TBD? You are correct, as in 2025 and 2050. But, its more relevant NOW than it is in 5 years, 10 year 30 years...since we havent signed anyone in a very long time and lost out on many good players who would ave made the team better in 2017, 2018 and 2019.... I understand how math works, I have a business degree from SDSU. Theres something unsettling about all this.
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 5, 2017 12:27:31 GMT -8
You are correct, as in 2025 and 2050. But, its more relevant NOW than it is in 5 years, 10 year 30 years...since we havent signed anyone in a very long time and lost out on many good players who would ave made the team better in 2017, 2018 and 2019.... I understand how math works, I have a business degree from SDSU. Theres something unsettling about all this. If this were NOVEMBER, not June, and if Transfers were a significant aspect of building a team in this decade it would be unsettling. It's not November, and the transfer wire is and will continue to be a major aspect of recruiting.
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Post by podpeople on Jun 5, 2017 16:21:12 GMT -8
Theres something unsettling about all this. If this were NOVEMBER, not June, and if Transfers were a significant aspect of building a team in this decade it would be unsettling. It's not November, and the transfer wire is and will continue to be a major aspect of recruiting. You're right, I think I've been watching too much Twin Peaks.
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 5, 2017 16:41:58 GMT -8
If this were NOVEMBER, not June, and if Transfers were a significant aspect of building a team in this decade it would be unsettling. It's not November, and the transfer wire is and will continue to be a major aspect of recruiting. You're right, I think I've been watching too much Twin Peaks. If you've actually been able to make it thru all the episodes (without fast forwarding) you're a much more patient person than I. That show is painful & beyond bizarre thus far (& this from a former fan of the show). I'm forcing myself to watch because we usually run into Kyle Mc once or twice a year & want to be able to say "hey, saw your new show..." but now I'm thinking I'll just avoid him! : )
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Post by standiego on Jun 5, 2017 19:19:41 GMT -8
We have the grad transfer at the 5 . Now will be interesting to see if we can get a high quality regular transfer for scholarship #12 similar to Vance Jackson who would sit 2017 then have 3 to play . Or who could we get ? Is Kavell - B/W still an option or ....
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Post by Gundo on Jun 7, 2017 20:53:38 GMT -8
Wonder if Thad Motta leaving Ohio State upsets there 2017 recruiting class? McDermott in, Motta out.
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Post by standiego on Jun 8, 2017 9:26:41 GMT -8
and are there recruits that were going to Creighton that may open up their recruiting - ?
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