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Post by hoobs on May 5, 2016 4:52:13 GMT -8
Ok, so how about we create a new Board for "Campus and alumni discussion" under the section "San Diego State Aztecs"?
Consideration of political issues recognized but put aside, I find it utterly shocking that non-sports SDSU news and information is viewed as "off topic." So now we only care about athletics, and nothing else about the university? That's pretty poor.
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Post by therealoracle on May 5, 2016 7:29:02 GMT -8
It was nice knowing ya.
TRO
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Post by aztecwin on May 5, 2016 7:34:42 GMT -8
If it does not belong it will die under its own weight.
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Post by Spud on May 5, 2016 7:40:45 GMT -8
It's just noise....Hirshman will be fine...
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Post by obboy13 on May 5, 2016 7:53:02 GMT -8
I know it's becoming distressingly more prevalent in our country, but did I miss a memo somewhere, and has political whining and protesting finally become recognized as a sport?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 8:22:03 GMT -8
Not sure what Elliot Hirschman has to do with those posters. Condemning free speech is a bad precedent to set. There's plenty of terrible $#!+ said on college campuses, but that's the beauty of college, free speech and shared ideas. The idea that those students were being persecuted by those posters is a bit of an overreaction. I've followed this story fairly closely and I haven't heard a single name dropped. This is just Palestinian vs Israeli conflict making its way to San Diego. Its a terrible abuse of freedoms from both sides to the other.
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Post by greysuit on May 5, 2016 9:26:27 GMT -8
This thread does not belong in the Aztec Sports section. That said, the posters were in opposition to the continued Israeli occupation of various property seized by Israel in 1967. The European Union believes the continued Israeli occupation of those territories is wrong. Even the late former chief of Mossad, Meir Dagan, disagreed with the current Israeli government's handling of the occupied territories. The people who put those posters up are operatives of the ultra right wing Israeli political party Likud. They are like the Tea Party in the United States in that they are given to wildly exaggerated claims against anybody who does not agree with their political views. Finally. An informed individual with an educated response. I still fail to see what Hirshman did wrong? The article does not go into what exactly he did or did not do about it, just that he failed to flex his muscle?
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Post by rebar619 on May 5, 2016 9:32:46 GMT -8
Yawn. These protesters can STFU. Moving on.
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Post by azson on May 5, 2016 9:37:42 GMT -8
I think we need a new sub-forum entitled '$#!+ you wanna blow out of proportion cause it's off-season and we're bored as F'
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Post by William L. Rupp on May 5, 2016 10:10:34 GMT -8
Here is the official policy of AztecMesa. Anything that refers to San Diego State University, be it sports related or not, is appropriate for this board. And, I might add, the president of the University plays a key role in the area of intercollegiate athletics at SDSU.
WLR
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Post by hoobs on May 5, 2016 11:35:28 GMT -8
Here is the official policy of AztecMesa. Anything that refers to San Diego State University, be it sports related or not, is appropriate for this board. And, I might add, the president of the University plays a key role in the area of intercollegiate athletics at SDSU. WLR Thanks for clarifying.
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Post by northcountymike on May 5, 2016 12:09:21 GMT -8
Not sure what Elliot Hirschman has to do with those posters. Condemning free speech is a bad precedent to set. There's plenty of terrible $#!+ said on college campuses, but that's the beauty of college, free speech and shared ideas. The idea that those students were being persecuted by those posters is a bit of an overreaction. I've followed this story fairly closely and I haven't heard a single name dropped. This is just Palestinian vs Israeli conflict making its way to San Diego. Its a terrible abuse of freedoms from both sides to the other. This is the truth...everyone's all about free speech until someone gets butthurt over an "insensitive" remark or poster being displayed on campus. It's a war that's been waged between these two factions for thousands of years and it will never be resolved. They brought the conflict over here and now the university is being put between a rock and a hard place because they have to defend free speech but they also have to defend the "right for either side to not get offended." You simply cannot win. Somehow, I'll find a way to relate this to Aztec athletics...
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Post by douchey1 on May 5, 2016 14:09:52 GMT -8
Screw these people. If anyone's gone run Horseman...ah Hirshman it's gonna be the Aztec faithful not a bunch of half asses who go butt hurt or Farrakan want to bees
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Post by aztecfan1 on May 5, 2016 14:22:10 GMT -8
Here is the official policy of AztecMesa. Anything that refers to San Diego State University, be it sports related or not, is appropriate for this board. And, I might add, the president of the University plays a key role in the area of intercollegiate athletics at SDSU. WLR And William, that is why your once proud and the only board has become the "B" league board as you illogically allow off topic political tripe like this to slide. You should change the name to something like-- Aztec sports and anthing else you want to bring up that's non sports related.
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Post by Area51 Aztec on May 5, 2016 14:48:08 GMT -8
Here is the official policy of AztecMesa. Anything that refers to San Diego State University, be it sports related or not, is appropriate for this board. And, I might add, the president of the University plays a key role in the area of intercollegiate athletics at SDSU. WLR Hey Rupp. Ya'll probably created this sub-forum yourself (Political Forum). In case you forgot here is the link. aztecmesa.proboards.com/board/11/state-national-politicsI love how moderators change the rules to suit THEIR needs... WOW !!! Then you move a recruiting thread faster than a fly on $#!+.
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Post by zurac315 on May 5, 2016 14:59:53 GMT -8
I don't care about this issue in the slightest.
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Post by subbass49 on May 5, 2016 19:21:49 GMT -8
Finally. An informed individual with an educated response. I still fail to see what Hirshman did wrong? The article does not go into what exactly he did or did not do about it, just that he failed to flex his muscle? Basically it boils down to his lack of meaningful response. Same sort of posters were put up by the ultra-right hate group on other campuses, but their administrations condemned them strongly. Hirshman not only failed to do that, but even his weaksauce response took 2 weeks before he issued it. He basically sided with a guy who has been called out by the SPLC as a modern hate-leader over his own students. Not a good look. BTW, the posters are essentially modern-day McCarthyism in poster form. Naming students who criticize Israel's policies as somehow aligned with Hamas & terrorism. That's messed up in all sorts of ways. I'm very disappointed in Hirshman's response as well, which amounted to, "Hey - criticize Israel and you get what's coming to you." Anyway...my 2 cents.
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Post by aztecfan1 on May 5, 2016 20:00:55 GMT -8
Note to moderator: read the Post above dropping down into the slime to a discussion of McCathyism. Is that where SDSU athletics should go on your now lame board? Is that where you wanted a discussion of the SDSU president to go in a sports chat room? What I'm glad about is the lame brains above don't know where most of us are reading now about just Aztec sports. You might consider showing some leadership, some management skill on your "sports" board.
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Post by richpjr on May 5, 2016 20:03:01 GMT -8
I still fail to see what Hirshman did wrong? The article does not go into what exactly he did or did not do about it, just that he failed to flex his muscle? Basically it boils down to his lack of meaningful response. Same sort of posters were put up by the ultra-right hate group on other campuses, but their administrations condemned them strongly. Hirshman not only failed to do that, but even his weaksauce response took 2 weeks before he issued it. He basically sided with a guy who has been called out by the SPLC as a modern hate-leader over his own students. Not a good look. BTW, the posters are essentially modern-day McCarthyism in poster form. Naming students who criticize Israel's policies as somehow aligned with Hamas & terrorism. That's messed up in all sorts of ways. I'm very disappointed in Hirshman's response as well, which amounted to, "Hey - criticize Israel and you get what's coming to you." Anyway...my 2 cents. The irony of anyone from the Students for Justice in Palestine, the National Action Network, or the Council for American-Islamic Relations complaining about hatred and intolerance is...astonishing. It's so scary to see students so willing to toss aside freedom of speech because they don't agree with the message - these people will one day run the country.
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Post by Xolotl on May 5, 2016 21:29:52 GMT -8
Here is the official policy of AztecMesa. Anything that refers to San Diego State University, be it sports related or not, is appropriate for this board. And, I might add, the president of the University plays a key role in the area of intercollegiate athletics at SDSU. WLR Nice call stretch ....so why on the first page do we have sub-forums? I guess they aren't needed ...so drop them Why did we put the player from WSU in the recruit section and not here? Wonders never cease?
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