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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 14:28:28 GMT -8
Haha, so you are back to the beating Boise in Boise means nothing statement again? You are entitled your opinion, even if quantitative analysis proves its a fallacy, I guess. What does that quantitative analysis show for our bowl game vs. BYU? We got our asses handed to us on our home field... Sure glad that gigantic, program-changing victory over Boise State carried us to a meaningful victory... oh wait... it didn't. Straw men...the last vestige of someone grasping for anything to avoid the truth of their ignorance. How about you challenge me on something I actually said? Program changing? Never said that, only said it wasn't true we haven't won any games on meaning or consequence recently. By all accounts from the actual people who professionally cover CFB, beating Boise in Boise is certainly not meaningless.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 14:32:19 GMT -8
What does that quantitative analysis show for our bowl game vs. BYU? We got our asses handed to us on our home field... Sure glad that gigantic, program-changing victory over Boise State carried us to a meaningful victory... oh wait... it didn't. Straw men...the last vestige of someone grasping for anything to avoid the truth of their ignorance. How about you challenge me on something I actually said? Program changing? Never said that, only said it wasn't true we haven't won any games on meaning or consequence recently. By all accounts from the actual people who professionally cover CFB, beating Boise in Boise is certainly not meaningless. Beating an in-conference opponent... during down years for that opponent...
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Post by sdsudevil on Jul 29, 2015 14:32:44 GMT -8
Haha, so you are back to the beating Boise in Boise means nothing statement again? You are entitled your opinion, even if quantitative analysis proves its a fallacy, I guess. What does that quantitative analysis show for our bowl game vs. BYU? We got our asses handed to us on our home field... Sure glad that gigantic, program-changing victory over Boise State carried us to a meaningful victory... oh wait... it didn't. A meaningful win in Boise doesn't carry any transitive outcomes to any future games. BYU has kicked our tails for quite some time. It's not even new. And my point was that it seems many post only to post negative. "I'll see it when it comes", "We are terrible, boring to watch". My question to those that post that, is why even post about FB, if you don't like it? It just seems like trying to counter with a "I'm a fan, I'm just saying the truth" is a convenience to an argument, that somehow merits mocking any and everything that isn't basketball. It just seems strange that it is so commonplace on a homer board. I wouldn't call myself a dreamer on what our FB team can do, and I find it just as funny as those who mock football hype baseball and basketball as these prolific teams that can't do any wrong, even though the success is not so drastically greater. It seems disparate in how these sports are treated, by comparison. I'm not saying it's you doing all that I have said, just an observation.
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 29, 2015 14:33:52 GMT -8
Simple question ... is it more important to beat a ranked FBS team (regardless of conference affiliation) or any P5 program (including Washington St, Wake Forest, Kansas, Kentucky & Indiana)?
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 14:38:09 GMT -8
What does that quantitative analysis show for our bowl game vs. BYU? We got our asses handed to us on our home field... Sure glad that gigantic, program-changing victory over Boise State carried us to a meaningful victory... oh wait... it didn't. A meaningful win in Boise doesn't carry any transitive outcomes to any future games. BYU has kicked our tails for quite some time. It's not even new. And my point was that it seems many post only to post negative. "I'll see it when it comes", "We are terrible, boring to watch". My question to those that post that, is why even post about FB, if you don't like it? It just seems like trying to counter with a "I'm a fan, I'm just saying the truth" is a convenience to an argument, that somehow merits mocking any and everything that isn't basketball. It just seems strange that it is so commonplace on a homer board. I wouldn't call myself a dreamer on what our FB team can do, and I find it just as funny as those who mock football hype baseball and basketball as these prolific teams that can't do any wrong, even though the success is not so drastically greater. It seems disparate in how these sports are treated, by comparison. I'm not saying it's you doing all that I have said, just an observation. I hear what you're saying. Generally speaking, far too many folks on this board confuse honest assessment (and we are speaking of opinions here) with bashing. Threads and posts are a two-way street.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 14:39:18 GMT -8
HnT...you can't ask that question when a majority of posters here have no idea who we've actually beaten and are just parroting. Most won't realize we have done both and on RL's watch.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 14:44:05 GMT -8
HnT...you can't ask that question when a majority of posters here have no idea who we've actually beaten and are just parroting. Most won't realize we have done both and on RL's watch. We've beaten Boise State during two down years for their program. Oh yeah... and Buffalo!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 14:57:25 GMT -8
HnT...you can't ask that question when a majority of posters here have no idea who we've actually beaten and are just parroting. Most won't realize we have done both and on RL's watch. We've beaten Boise State during two down years for their program. Oh yeah... and Buffalo! Boise finished the 2012 season ranked(18 on AP, 14 on Coaches Poll)...try again. Oh, and me pointing to wins when someone says we haven't won...that doesn't somehow mean I made claims about anything else, only that I wanted to correct that we actually had wins that were claimed we different. You are attempting to infer something I never said. www.fbschedules.com/2013/01/final-2012-ap-coaches-top-25-polls-released/espn.go.com/college-football/standings/_/season/2012/seasontype/pre/group/17
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 29, 2015 14:58:05 GMT -8
HnT...you can't ask that question when a majority of posters here have no idea who we've actually beaten and are just parroting. Most won't realize we have done both and on RL's watch. We've beaten Boise State during two down years for their program. Oh yeah... and Buffalo! Is it more important to beat a team is ranked in the TOP 25 in November as Boise St (#19/#14) was in '12 (or#23 AFA in '10) or is it more important to beat an unranked P5 like Wazzu, WF or KS? If you're having trouble with the football concept, make it basketball ... is it more important to beat a ranked Long Beach St or St Mary's or is it more important to beat an unranked Wazzu, Colorado or Texas Tech?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 15:00:19 GMT -8
How many time will MyStras be wrong about something before he steps away from the keyboard?
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 15:03:55 GMT -8
And where did they finish ranked in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011... and for that matter 2013?
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 15:10:14 GMT -8
And where did they finish ranked in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011... and for that matter 2013? Still waiting...
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 15:13:34 GMT -8
We've beaten Boise State during two down years for their program. Oh yeah... and Buffalo! Is it more important to beat a team is ranked in the TOP 25 in November as Boise St (#19/#14) was in '12 (or#23 AFA in '10) or is it more important to beat an unranked P5 like Wazzu, WF or KS? If you're having trouble with the football concept, make it basketball ... is it more important to beat a ranked Long Beach St or St Mary's or is it more important to beat an unranked Wazzu, Colorado or Texas Tech? To answer your question(s) as asked: Football: Boise State Basketball: Completely indifferent
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 15:18:19 GMT -8
And where did they finish ranked in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011... and for that matter 2013? No clue. But I do know the 2012 BSU team had only 2 loses. @#13 Michigan State(by 4) and home against San Diego State. But if by down year you mean no longer the Kellen Moore era and being ranked in the teens instead of 4th or 5th, sure. Doesn't change the fact that coaches believed the team we beat that year was worthy of being ranked 14th in the country. How many other road wins against a team ranked that high does SDSU have over the last 30 years?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 15:19:25 GMT -8
And where did they finish ranked in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011... and for that matter 2013? Still waiting... lol, its pretty obvious your feelers are hurt and now you are trying to prove something. Grow up.
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 29, 2015 15:27:10 GMT -8
And where did they finish ranked in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011... and for that matter 2013? Still waiting... Seriously? You should really take a moment to re-read the thread and re-assess the direction you are trying to take it. In the mean time to answer your question, BSU's record since 2008 is 81-122008 12-1 2009 14-0 2010 12-1 2011 12-1 2012 11-2 2013 8-5 2014 12-2 Whatever you are trying to infer from their record or ranking over the years in question does nothing to dispel the fact that they were ranked in '12 and of the 2 games they lost, one was to SDSU
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 15:27:32 GMT -8
lol, its pretty obvious your feelers are hurt and now you are trying to prove something. Grow up. You mean trying to prove the truth? It's a pretty straight forward question... where was Boise ranked in the years leading up to our victory in 2012? And in 2013? Congrats on beating Boise with QB Joe Southwick (who?) in a down year. And an even better victory in 2013! Facts is facts.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 29, 2015 15:29:52 GMT -8
Seriously? You should really take a moment to re-read the thread and re-assess the direction you are trying to take it. In the mean time to answer your question, BSU's record since 2008 is 81-122008 12-1 2009 14-0 2010 12-1 2011 12-1 2012 11-2 2013 8-5 2014 12-2 Whatever you are trying to infer from their record or ranking over the years in question does nothing to dispel the fact that they were ranked in '12 and of the 2 games they lost, one was to SDSU Simple question, did we beat Boise in down years (post Kellen Moore) or not?
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Post by HighNTight on Jul 29, 2015 15:30:25 GMT -8
Is it more important to beat a team is ranked in the TOP 25 in November as Boise St (#19/#14) was in '12 (or#23 AFA in '10) or is it more important to beat an unranked P5 like Wazzu, WF or KS? If you're having trouble with the football concept, make it basketball ... is it more important to beat a ranked Long Beach St or St Mary's or is it more important to beat an unranked Wazzu, Colorado or Texas Tech? To answer your question(s) as asked: Football: Boise State Basketball: Completely indifferent why is basketball any different? would it be any different in baseball? A power conference team is still a power conference team as they are resource teams (read that as $$$$) and have all the advantages, yet it is always more important to beat a ranked team, PERIOD.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 15:32:48 GMT -8
Keep moving the goal posts and you'll eventually be right.
I respond to a comment that we have no meaningful wins with our 2012 win at Boise. MyStras then says we play them EVERY year and its in conference, so we should beat them. I point out our 1st and 2nd wins against them came on only the 2nd and 3rd times we ever played them and he then moves on to talking rankings.
We all see right through you.
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