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Post by matteosandiego on Nov 26, 2014 13:13:34 GMT -8
This is a great point. It is part of the reason I want to see us play the Zags, UNLV, New Mexico and you guys every year. Heck why not BYU also. We should have more West Coast only tournaments. If the East can have so many good teams the West can as well. The West does not band together to do so. There are certainly more schools out east with pedigrees, but they all play each other. UK/KU/UNC/dook/MSU/Florida all play each other. HnH or the neutral games. It is like the west is filled with crabs in the bucket. For a team like us, it is exactly the reason that many of us have nothing but kind words for Miller and UofA hoops. The issue that I see when I see a thread like that PGU one, is that it feeds into the problem. UofA going east for their tough games, while it may be individually benefical, it does nothing for the region, and then those same ones complain that the west isn't looked at as much. It may seem like we are cannibalizing, but it's insulating a regional product that toughens up our top teams. This
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Nov 26, 2014 13:16:11 GMT -8
That was then but this now and now counts the most. Zona fan here. On the surface there is no upside in this game anymore for Arizona, we are expected to win and if we do great, but it is not going to make our season. However, a win by SDSU is huge for you guys since your conference is down this year and I am sure despite that you will be demanding a 1 seed in the West come March if you win this game. I think rather then bashing on Arizona you should just have some respect for us willing to play you. Ask Bill Self about playing Wichita St or how about K or Roy scheduling a home and home or playing in a tournament with VCU? However I love that we are playing you and hope we continue to do so because Miller, like Lute Olson before him is not going to run away from good teams or only schedule them at home. If it were up to me we would play a home and home with you guys, UNLV, Gonzaga and New Mexico all the time. This is not college football a couple of losses is not the end of the world and we will be fine on the recruiting front even if we drop some games. I was at the game last year and absolutely loved "the show", you have one of the best game day atmospheres in the country. Sure your fans say disrespectful things but so that is what fans do and it was amusing to see the look on some students faces when my wife lit them up. I also hope we absolutely crush you...but I do not except that at all. I also think this game will help Arizona even if we lose, since we are having trouble forming a cohesive team and a loss will certainly allow Miller to get the team's attention. Of course, I would love for the team to form cohesion in a win. Best of luck after tonight Reading through that thread was a stroll through some of the worst of the condescending, elitist and frankly chicken things I've read, even on they east coast. They don't want to elevate us, don't want to share dominance of the West, don't see the value in playing a top 15 team, don't want to recruit against us,, etc. I am glad this delusional fan base doesn't live on the East coast where the density of top 20 programs is higher... Sent from my Admiral Mark 01 Telegraph machine via Sputnik with dial-up
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Post by missiontrails on Nov 26, 2014 13:25:19 GMT -8
This is rich.......
PJH13 - The thread over at Aztec Mesa is a dumpster fire. They don't seem to understand the point Wize was making at all.
Uhhhhhhhh, yeah we understand what he is trying to convey, we (most of us) just don't agree with it. Or, in my case, I get his point, I just think it's frickin' shortsighted and myopic. And some of his cohorts over there agree.
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Post by untitled on Nov 26, 2014 13:35:22 GMT -8
Haters gonna hate
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Post by missiontrails on Nov 26, 2014 13:42:35 GMT -8
"yeah, they think Arizona fans are afraid over there, when really the discussion is about their uselessness"
But Mt St Marys and Gardner-Webb ARE useful.......got it.
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Post by bschmurda on Nov 26, 2014 13:43:17 GMT -8
Dear Zona fans, we get your point... We just think it stupid because we've already beaten you at your place before, you're not the big a deal... Playing UCLA is much more important
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Post by Iowa Aztec on Nov 26, 2014 13:53:42 GMT -8
Dear UofA: Relax big bro! Lol
Your fan base is equally intolerable. As a visiting Iowa Hawkeyes football fan, only a few years back, I remember how disrespectful and ignorant all of you were to the visiting fans. Videos all over YouTube of their fans acting crazy that game. Also learned how much of a dumpster fire the city of Tucson, AZ is.
Their board is freaking the F out. Just win, baby...Go Aztecs!
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 26, 2014 13:54:27 GMT -8
We definitely get PGU's point.
We just think they're cowardly idiots for making it.
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Post by AZK619 on Nov 26, 2014 14:01:37 GMT -8
Looking forward to playing you guys. Enjoyed the games we've played the last few years and win or lose it's going to be a good game for our team. Also, most real Arizona fans would rather smoke a dog turd wrapped in grass clippings than give that shithead ACE a single page view or spend one second on PointGuardU, so you can all take that for what it's worth. Bump.
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Post by rebar619 on Nov 26, 2014 14:02:07 GMT -8
I think rather then bashing on Arizona you should just have some respect for us willing to play you. I also hope we absolutely crush you...but I do not except that at all. I also think this game will help Arizona even if we lose, since we are having trouble forming a cohesive team and a loss will certainly allow Miller to get the team's attention. Of course, I would love for the team to form cohesion in a win. Best of luck after tonight If you do a little more reading here you'll see that we have a tremendous amount of respect for Coach Miller's willingness to play us. Your fan base also gets a lot more respect than those like UNLV, NM and BYU. And here's hoping that we crush you as well. They I'd hope that Arizona only loses 2 games all year. Tonight and against us in the NCAA tournament. The perfect sentiment. Well put.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Nov 26, 2014 14:05:36 GMT -8
I am confused about what they are talking about over there. The Wize guy is whining that they scheduled SDSU and that he wishes UA would have scheduled somebody else. They scheduled us? I thought we scheduled the Maui Invitation, as did they, and it so happened we met 3 games later in the final. What am I missing? Why is the guy complaining that Arizona scheduled us this year?
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Post by sdsudevil on Nov 26, 2014 14:06:56 GMT -8
Dear UofA: Relax big bro! Lol Your fan base is equally intolerable. As a visiting Iowa Hawkeyes football fan, only a few years back, I remember how disrespectful and ignorant all of you were to the visiting fans. Videos all over YouTube of their fans acting crazy that game. Also learned how much of a dumpster fire the city of Tucson, AZ is. Their board is freaking the F out. Just win, baby...Go Aztecs! Yep.
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Post by sdmotohead on Nov 26, 2014 14:09:39 GMT -8
*YAWN*
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Post by AztecBballFan on Nov 26, 2014 14:18:25 GMT -8
I guess that Arizona fans would've rather played BYU/Pitt/Chaminade and they'd be more "useful". I'm sure they'd rather think they're more useful at this point in the Maui Invitational.
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Post by pjh13 on Nov 26, 2014 14:21:03 GMT -8
This is rich....... PJH13 - The thread over at Aztec Mesa is a dumpster fire. They don't seem to understand the point Wize was making at all. Uhhhhhhhh, yeah we understand what he is trying to convey, we (most of us) just don't agree with it. Or, in my case, I get his point, I just think it's frickin' shortsighted and myopic. And some of his cohorts over there agree. I will just pop in and make my point this way instead of cross forum discussions. I'll start by saying I've been a lurker here for a few years due to our matchups and you guys have a very solid fanbase. I will also say you are the best program in California and i genuinely root for your success and time you aren't playing against us. I also enjoy our matchups and they have been exciting and im assuming this one will also be a defensive slugfest that goes down to the wire. Now that I've got that out of the way, until you guys join a p5 conference or make a final four we have nothing to gain from these matchups in terms of national perception. The team has lots to gain from playing you because you are well coached and a good team but that's not what we are talking about. As someone mentioned a few posts ago last years kansas victory for you was all about how kansas blew it and very little credit was given to where it actually belonged. That is what az is facing and I think to say other wise is slightly delusional. It's not fair but it's how the media operates. I don't agree about what some have said about it hurting us receuiting wise. Sean Miller is retcruiting at a level matched by maybe 1 or 2 coaches in the country and you guys improving won't change that. You have been pulling solid recruits and will continue to do but I don't think you are going to be stealing many recruits from is as long as Miller is here. The dumpster fire comment is all about how over the place your posts are in here. Some are saying we are already equals because you beat us down during our s#!++y transition years. On the other hand you have people claiming you need to beat us to prove you are for real to the national media. You also have the group just attacking his post saying we are scared as fans to play you which just isn't true. You guys beat us when we were down like a program of your level should have. But now that we are passed that any win by you guys will be treated like an AZ collapse in the national media. Hopefully that was coherent and I didn't ramble too much. I wish you guys the worst of luck tonight.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Nov 26, 2014 14:22:42 GMT -8
This is rich....... PJH13 - The thread over at Aztec Mesa is a dumpster fire. They don't seem to understand the point Wize was making at all. Uhhhhhhhh, yeah we understand what he is trying to convey, we (most of us) just don't agree with it. Or, in my case, I get his point, I just think it's frickin' shortsighted and myopic. And some of his cohorts over there agree. I will just pop in and make my point this way instead of cross forum discussions. I'll start by saying I've been a lurker here for a few years due to our matchups and you guys have a very solid fanbase. I will also say you are the best program in California and i genuinely root for your success and time you aren't playing against us. I also enjoy our matchups and they have been exciting and im assuming this one will also be a defensive slugfest that goes down to the wire. Now that I've got that out of the way, until you guys join a p5 conference or make a final four we have nothing to gain from these matchups in terms of national perception. The team has lots to gain from playing you because you are well coached and a good team but that's not what we are talking about. As someone mentioned a few posts ago last years kansas victory for you was all about how kansas blew it and very little credit was given to where it actually belonged. That is what az is facing and I think to say other wise is slightly delusional. It's not fair but it's how the media operates. I don't agree about what some have said about it hurting us receuiting wise. Sean Miller is retcruiting at a level matched by maybe 1 or 2 coaches in the country and you guys improving won't change that. You have been pulling solid recruits and will continue to do but I don't think you are going to be stealing many recruits from is as long as Miller is here. The dumpster fire comment is all about how over the place your posts are in here. Some are saying we are already equals because you beat us down during our s#!++y transition years. On the other hand you have people claiming you need to beat us to prove you are for real to the national media. You also have the group just attacking his post saying we are scared as fans to play you which just isn't true. You guys beat us when we were down like a program of your level should have. But now that we are passed that any win by you guys will be treated like an AZ collapse in the national media. Hopefully that was coherent and I didn't ramble too much. I wish you guys the worst of luck tonight. Why is Wize complaining about you guys scheduling us? We didn't schedule each other.
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Post by missiontrails on Nov 26, 2014 14:26:16 GMT -8
This is rich....... PJH13 - The thread over at Aztec Mesa is a dumpster fire. They don't seem to understand the point Wize was making at all. Uhhhhhhhh, yeah we understand what he is trying to convey, we (most of us) just don't agree with it. Or, in my case, I get his point, I just think it's frickin' shortsighted and myopic. And some of his cohorts over there agree. I will just pop in and make my point this way instead of cross forum discussions. I'll start by saying I've been a lurker here for a few years due to our matchups and you guys have a very solid fanbase. I will also say you are the best program in California and i genuinely root for your success and time you aren't playing against us. I also enjoy our matchups and they have been exciting and im assuming this one will also be a defensive slugfest that goes down to the wire. Now that I've got that out of the way, until you guys join a p5 conference or make a final four we have nothing to gain from these matchups in terms of national perception. The team has lots to gain from playing you because you are well coached and a good team but that's not what we are talking about. As someone mentioned a few posts ago last years kansas victory for you was all about how kansas blew it and very little credit was given to where it actually belonged. That is what az is facing and I think to say other wise is slightly delusional. It's not fair but it's how the media operates. I don't agree about what some have said about it hurting us receuiting wise. Sean Miller is retcruiting at a level matched by maybe 1 or 2 coaches in the country and you guys improving won't change that. You have been pulling solid recruits and will continue to do but I don't think you are going to be stealing many recruits from is as long as Miller is here. The dumpster fire comment is all about how over the place your posts are in here. Some are saying we are already equals because you beat us down during our s#!++y transition years. On the other hand you have people claiming you need to beat us to prove you are for real to the national media. You also have the group just attacking his post saying we are scared as fans to play you which just isn't true. You guys beat us when we were down like a program of your level should have. But now that we are passed that any win by you guys will be treated like an AZ collapse in the national media. Hopefully that was coherent and I didn't ramble too much. I wish you guys the worst of luck tonight. Ahhhhhhh!! If we only knew it was THAT easy. Can we go ahead and join the Pac 12 13 please? Where do we go to pick up our $20+ million share of the TV contract. Thanks for the hint and nudge!
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Post by junior on Nov 26, 2014 14:26:29 GMT -8
The AZtecs will be the only AZ team that matters after tonight's gameā¦
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Post by AztecBballFan on Nov 26, 2014 14:34:47 GMT -8
But now that we are passed that any win by you guys will be treated like an AZ collapse in the national media. Hopefully that was coherent and I didn't ramble too much. I wish you guys the worst of luck tonight. I wouldn't think that this game would even be treated like an Arizona collapse in the media. Just another solid game between two nationally ranked opponents with a brewing rivalry. We have a solid team and you guys are making it seem like our players are useless, our coaches are useless, our fanbase is useless but fact of the matter is that you guys are wrong. We're far ahead of many other "useless" schools (which I'm sure you guys would rather play), I don't think you guys seem to realize that we're just as good as Arizona or nearly as good. We've made it to the point here that we're nationally recognized every single day and it honestly wouldn't be a surprise to the media that we beat you guys. It's going to be a good game regardless and there's no turning back.
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Post by sdmotohead on Nov 26, 2014 14:43:45 GMT -8
Here's the reality of the situation. Wize (contrary to his name) is missing the point. We NEED each other. Hell we NEED more teams to step up west of the Mississippi. I'm sick of the east coast bias, aren't you? Screw the "blue bloods" with their pansy-arse light OOC schedules who wouldn't play us or AZ anytime soon except maybe on a neutral floor. We NEED UCLA, CAL, New Mexico (did I just say that?!!), UNLV, Gonzaga, Stanford, etc to all become ranked so we can have our own identity as a region. THE NEW ORDER! (great band by the way, saw them at Aztec Bowl back when there was an A.B.) I would love to have a rivalry w/ another good team. If not AZ than why not UCLA? <--- rhetorical question. Come on UNLV, get good again!!
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