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Post by matteosandiego on Nov 26, 2014 10:56:13 GMT -8
I would agree with your take that most of their fans dont mind playing us. They've had our number the last 3 games. And its become a decent rivalry in the making. I will disagree with one of their posters saying that we have a lil brother complex with them. Even with their being able to lure San Diego area recruits away, and with their success, i've personally never seen the same type of animosity our fanbase has towards the likes of UCLA. UofA is respected, but i don't think we will ever have the same type of vitriol hated for them that we do others. Exactly. I want to see us beat them because I view them as the best team out west. To be the best, you have to beat the best. A 180 from why I want to see us crush UCLA. Because those cowards keep ducking us. Great point about ucla. uofA scheduled us so much recently, because well, we are legit. playing us earns street cred. that they are not scared. us playing them earns us legit cred. that we can hang with the big boys. it really helped each other out, obviously way more for our sake. i get why they wouldnt want to play us every year, but just like how all the media bias is on the east coast, having more competition out west is only a good thing for both schools. having rivals is not a bad thing, and losing a few here and there isnt a bad thing either. because it brings forth passion to finally win. and thats where SDSU is right now. they are starting to HATE us. if we win tonight....ITS FULLY ON! they will despise us.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 26, 2014 11:02:44 GMT -8
Exactly. I want to see us beat them because I view them as the best team out west. To be the best, you have to beat the best. A 180 from why I want to see us crush UCLA. Because those cowards keep ducking us. Great point about ucla. uofA scheduled us so much recently, because well, we are legit. playing us earns street cred. that they are not scared. us playing them earns us legit cred. that we can hang with the big boys. it really helped each other out, obviously way more for our sake. i get why they wouldnt want to play us every year, but just like how all the media bias is on the east coast, having more competition out west is only a good thing for both schools. having rivals is not a bad thing, and losing a few here and there isnt a bad thing either. because it brings forth passion to finally win. and thats where SDSU is right now. they are starting to HATE us. if we win tonight....ITS FULLY ON! they will despise us. Great points on street cred. I think if Miller had his way, he'd try to schedule a roadie every November at Viejas. Like others have said, we have a great deal of respect for Miller and actually know how complimentary he's been about SDSU and Fisher. He's not the type to duck anyone and is the leader who wants his teams to face adversity early to help them later. An Aztec win would definitely fuel the fire. The fact, we're the most hated team in three states already shows we're a program. Being hated by a national power like U of A would be a step up.
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Post by sdsudevil on Nov 26, 2014 11:09:29 GMT -8
Great point about ucla. uofA scheduled us so much recently, because well, we are legit. playing us earns street cred. that they are not scared. us playing them earns us legit cred. that we can hang with the big boys. it really helped each other out, obviously way more for our sake. i get why they wouldnt want to play us every year, but just like how all the media bias is on the east coast, having more competition out west is only a good thing for both schools. having rivals is not a bad thing, and losing a few here and there isnt a bad thing either. because it brings forth passion to finally win. and thats where SDSU is right now. they are starting to HATE us. if we win tonight....ITS FULLY ON! they will despise us. Great points on street cred. I think if Miller had his way, he'd try to schedule a roadie every November at Viejas. Like others have said, we have a great deal of respect for Miller and actually know how complimentary he's been about SDSU and Fisher. He's not the type to duck anyone and is the leader who wants his teams to face adversity early to help them later. An Aztec win would definitely fuel the fire. The fact, we're the most hated team in three states already shows we're a program. Being hated by a national power like U of A would be a step up. We would have to beat them in March for a team with the repretoire of Zona to be upset. They have (as do we) a lot of ball to play. I think perhaps a year off would be good (and it looks to be that way) to kind of see if any coals remain hot. I personally just like to see us challenged with tough teams, and out west it is Zona, bar none, right now.
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Post by liver97 on Nov 26, 2014 11:11:38 GMT -8
Wasn't there a recent run (for a short few years) where MWC schools were crushing PacX in both football and basketball? Maybe not exactly crushing, but at least winning more than 50%. I still find it amusing that a lot of Pac fans/writers don't have nearly the respect for us the coaches and players do. The questions some of the Husky beat writers had for Lorenzo Romar last year, prior to UW playing us, were hilarious. They basically were implying they were doing SDSU a favor by playing us. This is Washington!! Romar, for his part, at least scoffed at some of the dumber questions. We do have respect for your coach scheduling us, it's been said many times on this board, but it's not like it's some HUGE favor to us any more. But I definitely do hope we renew with UofA several times over and it develops into a little OOC rivalry. Otherwise, great post, and welcome to the board. Should be a great game tonight. I don't mean to imply that we are doing you a huge favor, only that the risk/reward is tilted in your favor this year and that a lot of other programs like Arizona would not play teams like SDSU...just ask UCLA. A few years ago we benefited a lot by playing you even though you whipped us, and our win at your building last year helped us nail down a 1 seed. Up until two years ago the MWC was absolutely a better bb conference then the PAC 12. The MWC still has way better fan attendance across the board then the PAC 12. This year the MWC just looks a bit mismatched with you guys being heads and tails above the rest of the teams, though I would not want to go play at places like Boise, New Mexico or Wyoming. You guys are almost doing Washington a favor by going to play them at Hec Ed.
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Post by matteosandiego on Nov 26, 2014 11:13:59 GMT -8
Great point about ucla. uofA scheduled us so much recently, because well, we are legit. playing us earns street cred. that they are not scared. us playing them earns us legit cred. that we can hang with the big boys. it really helped each other out, obviously way more for our sake. i get why they wouldnt want to play us every year, but just like how all the media bias is on the east coast, having more competition out west is only a good thing for both schools. having rivals is not a bad thing, and losing a few here and there isnt a bad thing either. because it brings forth passion to finally win. and thats where SDSU is right now. they are starting to HATE us. if we win tonight....ITS FULLY ON! they will despise us. Great points on street cred. I think if Miller had his way, he'd try to schedule a roadie every November at Viejas. Like others have said, we have a great deal of respect for Miller and actually know how complimentary he's been about SDSU and Fisher. He's not the type to duck anyone and is the leader who wants his teams to face adversity early to help them later. An Aztec win would definitely fuel the fire. The fact, we're the most hated team in three states already shows we're a program. Being hated by a national power like U of A would be a step up. Right on. Miller 'gets it'. His parting words to X Thames after the sweet 16 game really told me a lot about his outlook and style. He told X to 'now go get paid or go make yourself some money!' i thought that was cool and a very very big sign of respect. its that mindset he has that tells me he gets it. you have to schedule these regional games. no one gets anywhere or makes any noise by dodging or ducking legit programs- especially in your own hood. you can be that ways if you want to, but you wont be very exciting and probably would lose a little bit of relevancy. storied history and all.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Nov 26, 2014 11:18:24 GMT -8
Regardless of what we want to believe...the fan base on their board is correct...U of A has nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing the Aztecs...that's why UCLA / Stanford runs scared...they feel the same way...
The thing is...if you want to be king of the mountain...you need to take on all comers...
Imagine if Ali said that I don't want to fight Frazier because I have too much to lose...or maybe Team USA shouldn't play Spain in the Olympics because we aren't really playing for anything...
If you want to be a champion...you need to take on all comers...
This is the reason that Coach Fisher schedules across the board...top tier teams...building teams...cupcakes...home and away...to show the world that we have a place at the grownups table...playing and acting like champions...
"To be the man...you gotta beat the man" ~ Ric Flair
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Post by matteosandiego on Nov 26, 2014 11:20:27 GMT -8
Wasn't there a recent run (for a short few years) where MWC schools were crushing PacX in both football and basketball? Maybe not exactly crushing, but at least winning more than 50%. I still find it amusing that a lot of Pac fans/writers don't have nearly the respect for us the coaches and players do. The questions some of the Husky beat writers had for Lorenzo Romar last year, prior to UW playing us, were hilarious. They basically were implying they were doing SDSU a favor by playing us. This is Washington!! Romar, for his part, at least scoffed at some of the dumber questions. We do have respect for your coach scheduling us, it's been said many times on this board, but it's not like it's some HUGE favor to us any more. But I definitely do hope we renew with UofA several times over and it develops into a little OOC rivalry. Otherwise, great post, and welcome to the board. Should be a great game tonight. I don't mean to imply that we are doing you a huge favor, only that the risk/reward is tilted in your favor this year and that a lot of other programs like Arizona would not play teams like SDSU... just ask UCLA. A few years ago we benefited a lot by playing you even though you whipped us, and our win at your building last year helped us nail down a 1 seed. Up until two years ago the MWC was absolutely a better bb conference then the PAC 12. The MWC still has way better fan attendance across the board then the PAC 12. This year the MWC just looks a bit mismatched with you guys being heads and tails above the rest of the teams, though I would not want to go play at places like Boise, New Mexico or Wyoming. You guys are almost doing Washington a favor by going to play them at Hec Ed. And just look how relevant ucla is now. they have deeper issues of course, but SDSU is undeniably a growing relevant force in the West. i can understand uofA cutting back on our matchups every year, but not completely. We will only continue to grow even past Fisher. If uofA were to do that, that would really isolate themselves with no budding new rivalries. its like telling a business not to try and grow or improve your industry. Competition only strengthens your product. and right now the pac12 bball product is pretty subpar compared to everything out east.
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Post by liver97 on Nov 26, 2014 11:23:55 GMT -8
And just look how relevant ucla is now. they have deeper issues of course, but SDSU is undeniably a growing relevant force in the West. i can understand uofA cutting back on our matchups every year, but not completely. We will only continue to grow even past Fisher. If uofA were to do that, that would really isolate themselves with no budding new rivalries. its like telling a business not to try and grow or improve your industry. Competition only strengthens your product. and right now the pac12 bball product is pretty subpar compared to everything out east. This is a great point. It is part of the reason I want to see us play the Zags, UNLV, New Mexico and you guys every year. Heck why not BYU also. We should have more West Coast only tournaments. If the East can have so many good teams the West can as well.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 26, 2014 11:32:45 GMT -8
And just look how relevant ucla is now. they have deeper issues of course, but SDSU is undeniably a growing relevant force in the West. i can understand uofA cutting back on our matchups every year, but not completely. We will only continue to grow even past Fisher. If uofA were to do that, that would really isolate themselves with no budding new rivalries. its like telling a business not to try and grow or improve your industry. Competition only strengthens your product. and right now the pac12 bball product is pretty subpar compared to everything out east. This is a great point. It is part of the reason I want to see us play the Zags, UNLV, New Mexico and you guys every year. Heck why not BYU also. We should have more West Coast only tournaments. If the East can have so many good teams the West can as well. I'd love that! An all-western tournament with the best teams out west. I know we've played BYU once when we were conference members together and it didn't count towards our conference records. It was the very first game played at Cox...now Viejas Arena.
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Post by sdsudevil on Nov 26, 2014 11:32:46 GMT -8
And just look how relevant ucla is now. they have deeper issues of course, but SDSU is undeniably a growing relevant force in the West. i can understand uofA cutting back on our matchups every year, but not completely. We will only continue to grow even past Fisher. If uofA were to do that, that would really isolate themselves with no budding new rivalries. its like telling a business not to try and grow or improve your industry. Competition only strengthens your product. and right now the pac12 bball product is pretty subpar compared to everything out east. This is a great point. It is part of the reason I want to see us play the Zags, UNLV, New Mexico and you guys every year. Heck why not BYU also. We should have more West Coast only tournaments. If the East can have so many good teams the West can as well. The West does not band together to do so. There are certainly more schools out east with pedigrees, but they all play each other. UK/KU/UNC/dook/MSU/Florida all play each other. HnH or the neutral games. It is like the west is filled with crabs in the bucket. For a team like us, it is exactly the reason that many of us have nothing but kind words for Miller and UofA hoops. The issue that I see when I see a thread like that PGU one, is that it feeds into the problem. UofA going east for their tough games, while it may be individually benefical, it does nothing for the region, and then those same ones complain that the west isn't looked at as much. It may seem like we are cannibalizing, but it's insulating a regional product that toughens up our top teams.
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Post by tonatiuh on Nov 26, 2014 11:36:22 GMT -8
I don't care what their fans think, or believe at all!
We are playing tonight for the Championship of the Maui Invitational, and their team just has no say on who they play. We will be there on the opposing side, so if they want to be Champions they have to win!
Go Aztecs!!!
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Post by AzTex on Nov 26, 2014 11:38:21 GMT -8
I think rather then bashing on Arizona you should just have some respect for us willing to play you. I also hope we absolutely crush you...but I do not except that at all. I also think this game will help Arizona even if we lose, since we are having trouble forming a cohesive team and a loss will certainly allow Miller to get the team's attention. Of course, I would love for the team to form cohesion in a win. Best of luck after tonight If you do a little more reading here you'll see that we have a tremendous amount of respect for Coach Miller's willingness to play us. Your fan base also gets a lot more respect than those like UNLV, NM and BYU. And here's hoping that we crush you as well. Then I'd hope that Arizona only loses 2 games all year. Tonight and against us in the NCAA tournament.
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Post by junior on Nov 26, 2014 12:00:19 GMT -8
Love the "We don't NEED to play you - there's NOTHING in it for us." sentiments.
AZ-Holes, all.
Sean Miller and his Wildcat team are excepted. I hope they can recover well enough after their loss to the Aztecs tonight to play us again in March.
Beating them twice in one year will give AZ fans SOMETHING to think about.
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Post by missiontrails on Nov 26, 2014 12:08:30 GMT -8
Love the "We don't NEED to play you - there's NOTHING in it for us." sentiments. AZ-Holes, all.Sean Miller and his Wildcat team are excepted. I hope they can recover well enough after their loss to the Aztecs tonight to play us again in March. Beating them twice in one year will give AZ fans SOMETHING to think about. I like your fire! But don't fall into the same trap other fan bases do with us. Just because a few vocal a-holes feel that way, it doesn't mean the majority of them do.
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Post by chris92065 on Nov 26, 2014 12:15:53 GMT -8
F em.
They represent the pac 12. Mortal enemies. We must win.
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Post by uncledougy on Nov 26, 2014 12:16:01 GMT -8
Biggest game in relation to the media attention it will generate. The Kansas win, IN KANSAS, was much bigger. This is a neutral site, early in the season, AND........we've beaten them before. You are missing my point. When we beat Kansas the media wasn't predicting Final Four like some outlets are. That game at Kansas was more about how Kansas laid an egg moreso than the Aztecs being a good team. This to year the media has gone on record with lofty hopes for the Astecs and a win justifies all their predictions and will continue to pump the Aztecs because it makes them look better.
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Post by junior on Nov 26, 2014 12:18:06 GMT -8
Love the "We don't NEED to play you - there's NOTHING in it for us." sentiments. AZ-Holes, all.Sean Miller and his Wildcat team are excepted. I hope they can recover well enough after their loss to the Aztecs tonight to play us again in March. Beating them twice in one year will give AZ fans SOMETHING to think about. I like your fire! But don't fall into the same trap other fan bases do with us. Just because a few vocal a-holes feel that way, it doesn't mean the majority of them do. I don't intend to go out and gather data on this, and I certainly won't dump ALL AZfans into one hole, but I was at Viejas when the AZZies were in town for the NCAAs last March. There were more than a few at that event… and many of them fit the profile perfectly. So when I say ALL, I'm pointing at the fan base on that site - but I tend to believe that particular fan base extends a little further…
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Post by AZK619 on Nov 26, 2014 12:40:15 GMT -8
I read that yesterday pretty funny stuff. I hope we curb stomp them in the most nicest of ways.
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Nov 26, 2014 12:45:22 GMT -8
The Kansas win, IN KANSAS, was much bigger. This is a neutral site, early in the season, AND........we've beaten them before. You are missing my point. When we beat Kansas the media wasn't predicting Final Four like some outlets are. That game at Kansas was more about how Kansas laid an egg moreso than the Aztecs being a good team. This to year the media has gone on record with lofty hopes for the Astecs and a win justifies all their predictions and will continue to pump the Aztecs because it makes them look better. I don't think the main story out of Lawrence last year was that Kansas laid an egg. This isn't the same SDSU after 2010/2011. That put SDSU on the map, and consecutive trips to the tourney, national rankings every year since then have kept the Aztecs there. If SDSU beats Arizona tonight, the story will be how good are the Aztecs. With more attention comes more negative or differing opinions. All good things.
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Post by uncledougy on Nov 26, 2014 13:09:46 GMT -8
You mustn't been around last year. All they said it was a great win by the Aztecs and proceeded to show highlights of how Kansas gave it away. Every recap show covered what Kansas did wrong and why they lost.
Every school that breaks the mold has a signature win when the eyes are on them. For Boise football it was that Statue of Liberty Fiesta Bowl, for Utah is was Urban Meyer pummeling Alabama I believe. What I am saying, is a win tonight becomes that game that the media see and says "I told you San Diego State was for real" and continue to cover more in depth the rest of the season. We will start to see ESPN features on the team and stuff like that.
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