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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 21:00:07 GMT -8
Worth every penny to get away from the likes of the San Suck State Spartans
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 22, 2014 21:18:35 GMT -8
Worth every penny to get away from the likes of the San Suck State Spartans Yup, as an added bonus, academically, the AAC is significantly better than the MWC... something University Presidents take note of... SDSU is currently ranked near the top of the MWC and would barely be middle of the pack in the AAC. MWC US News RankingsCSU - #121 SDSU - #152 Hawaii (Manoa?) - #158 Wyo - #161 Nevada - #181 New Mex - #181 Utah State - #190 Rest are unranked AAC US News RankingsTulane - #52 UConn - #57 SMU - #60 Tulsa - #86 Temple - #121 Cincy - #135 USF - #170 UCF - #170 ECU - #181 Houston - #190 Memphis - Unranked Navy - #12 Liberal Arts College
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 22, 2014 22:46:24 GMT -8
I scratch my head when I read some of the AAC fan comments. Air Force? Colorado State? New Mexico? Do the AAC fans know anything about those schools? Other than being closer to the eastern half of the U.S., they really have little to offer. Air Force, especially, seems to be a very dubious addition. Of the service academies, only Navy is any good at all in FB, and they are no world-beaters. As for hoops, none is good, though Air Force was good a decade ago.
I would go for a western division of the AAC. That would probably mean SDSU, UNLV, Fresno, and BSU in addition to Houston and SMU. Still can't see any serious possibility of joining the Pac-12, with the Big-12 only a slightly more realistic possibility. That being said, the AAC seems our only hope. Yes, the AAC is not great, but it's better than the MWC and, if nothing else, would give us east coast exposure.
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Post by rebar619 on Apr 23, 2014 7:55:23 GMT -8
Worth every penny to get away from the likes of the San Suck State Spartans Yup, as an added bonus, academically, the AAC is significantly better than the MWC... something University Presidents take note of... SDSU is currently ranked near the top of the MWC and would barely be middle of the pack in the AAC. MWC US News RankingsCSU - #121 SDSU - #152 Hawaii (Manoa?) - #158 Wyo - #161 Nevada - #181 New Mex - #181 Utah State - #190 Rest are unranked AAC US News RankingsTulane - #52 UConn - #57 SMU - #60 Tulsa - #86 Temple - #121 Cincy - #135 USF - #170 UCF - #170 ECU - #181 Houston - #190 Memphis - Unranked Navy - #12 Liberal Arts College There is a reason why people say "you are who you associate with". SDSU is looking to do much more research as part of a university wide initiative. Associating with other universities that are recognized for academics is a must. It has been discussed on this forum that the move to the Big East was applauded by faculty for the same reason. So many of the schools in the MWC are garbage, SDSU needs to be with better company. BTW, it is a very real possibility that SDSU will either break from the CSU system or be private all together in the next 5-10 years, so that needs to be considered as well.
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Apr 23, 2014 8:12:52 GMT -8
Worth every penny to get away from the likes of the San Suck State Spartans Yup, as an added bonus, academically, the AAC is significantly better than the MWC... something University Presidents take note of... SDSU is currently ranked near the top of the MWC and would barely be middle of the pack in the AAC. MWC US News RankingsCSU - #121 SDSU - #152 Hawaii (Manoa?) - #158 Wyo - #161 Nevada - #181 New Mex - #181 Utah State - #190 Rest are unranked AAC US News RankingsTulane - #52 UConn - #57 SMU - #60 Tulsa - #86 Temple - #121 Cincy - #135 USF - #170 UCF - #170 ECU - #181 Houston - #190 Memphis - Unranked Navy - #12 Liberal Arts College Rankings are based on people's opinion. No different than Seth Davis' Top 25 or the prep football rankings I post on my blog.
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Apr 23, 2014 8:18:03 GMT -8
BYU can care less about San Diego State, their main rival is Utah. The only reason Aztec fans hate BYU is because they owned San Diego State in damn near every sport when they were conference mates and they're still butthurt about it to this day. It's like a Dodgers/Padres or Chargers/Raiders type of deal. It's a rivalry but the amount of hate isn't mutual. Every school in the WAC/MWC hates BYU because they damn near dominated both conferences. I never said BYU was our rival. Do I really need to point out the self-evident point I made? I hope not. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards What was your point? BYU gets heckled by The Show? So does Chicago State.
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Post by retiredaztec on Apr 23, 2014 8:26:36 GMT -8
Worth every penny to get away from the likes of the San Suck State Spartans This would probably be as good as SDSU football is going to get, so why not? Then we could see what value they add to THIS conference.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Apr 23, 2014 8:27:29 GMT -8
I never said BYU was our rival. Do I really need to point out the self-evident point I made? I hope not. Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards What was your point? BYU gets heckled by The Show? So does Chicago State" I hope you aren't serious. I'll explain the simple logic on pm to spare you and no longer derail the thread Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by standiego on Apr 23, 2014 8:43:43 GMT -8
By this fall won't the AAC be down to 8 teams , with UCONN and Cincy looking to leave, if they can get an invite. Does the Power5 want them? The AAC is not a Power5 but better then the MW . Population wise for TV and recruiting states.AAC could look at a variety of ways to go . Does Sterk have a decent relationship with the remaining teams in the AAC . What network contracts will be out there. A lot may also be dependent on what happens with the Big 12.(Texas and the Sooners)
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Apr 23, 2014 9:10:29 GMT -8
What was your point? BYU gets heckled by The Show? So does Chicago State" I hope you aren't serious. I'll explain the simple logic on pm to spare you and no longer derail the thread Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Don't bother. You're obviously clueless if you think two competing schools located nine miles apart aren't rivals.
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Apr 23, 2014 9:35:29 GMT -8
Back to the original topic:
You know what I find funny? The Mountain West Conference is so beneath San Diego State that they needed to piggyback off Boise State in order to receive an invite to the Big East/AAC. What’s even funnier is the fact that the crappy Mountain West went to Boise State (not San Diego State) and offered them an attractive deal to return while San Diego State was only invited back as a contract stipulation. You guys should think about that as you sit on your high horses.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Apr 23, 2014 10:08:50 GMT -8
I hope you aren't serious. I'll explain the simple logic on pm to spare you and no longer derail the thread Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards Don't bother. You're obviously clueless if you think two competing schools located nine miles apart aren't rivals. Your words "true" rivals. Dream on. Why don't you use a helmet from your school anyway? Too embarrassed? (rhetorical) BTW, per your second psot, we think bigger, we don't sit on our collective asses and dream. To be big, you have to envision it and work towards it. Every successful businessman knows that... Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Apr 23, 2014 11:06:21 GMT -8
Don't bother. You're obviously clueless if you think two competing schools located nine miles apart aren't rivals. Your words "true" rivals. Dream on. Why don't you use a helmet from your school anyway? Too embarrassed? (rhetorical) BTW, per your second psot, we think bigger, we don't sit on our collective asses and dream. To be big, you have to envision it and work towards it. Every successful businessman knows that... Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards How come you can't name another school that considers SDSU its biggest rival? As for my second psot, every non-AQ program "dreams" of leaving for a bigger or better conference. That wasn't my point. If San Diego State is so above the MWC, why did they need to ride another school's coattail in order to not only leave, but get invited back?
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Post by oskiaztec on Apr 23, 2014 11:25:17 GMT -8
Yup, as an added bonus, academically, the AAC is significantly better than the MWC... something University Presidents take note of... SDSU is currently ranked near the top of the MWC and would barely be middle of the pack in the AAC. MWC US News RankingsCSU - #121 SDSU - #152 Hawaii (Manoa?) - #158 Wyo - #161 Nevada - #181 New Mex - #181 Utah State - #190 Rest are unranked AAC US News RankingsTulane - #52 UConn - #57 SMU - #60 Tulsa - #86 Temple - #121 Cincy - #135 USF - #170 UCF - #170 ECU - #181 Houston - #190 Memphis - Unranked Navy - #12 Liberal Arts College There is a reason why people say "you are who you associate with". SDSU is looking to do much more research as part of a university wide initiative. Associating with other universities that are recognized for academics is a must. It has been discussed on this forum that the move to the Big East was applauded by faculty for the same reason. So many of the schools in the MWC are garbage, SDSU needs to be with better company. BTW, it is a very real possibility that SDSU will either break from the CSU system or be private all together in the next 5-10 years, so that needs to be considered as well. What evidence do you have for this? If Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSF are having trouble gaining some autonomy from the UC system with regards to tuition what makes you think SDSU will completely break away or even become private? From a research stand point, would UCSD continue to collaborate with SDSU if it became private?
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Post by 78aztec82 on Apr 23, 2014 11:35:13 GMT -8
SDSU has no true rival. Fact of life. We are on an island. It sure ain't USD.
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Post by aztech on Apr 23, 2014 11:41:20 GMT -8
Your words "true" rivals. Dream on. Why don't you use a helmet from your school anyway? Too embarrassed? (rhetorical) BTW, per your second psot, we think bigger, we don't sit on our collective asses and dream. To be big, you have to envision it and work towards it. Every successful businessman knows that... Sent from my DROID RAZR using proboards How come you can't name another school that considers SDSU its biggest rival? As for my second psot, every non-AQ program "dreams" of leaving for a bigger or better conference. That wasn't my point. If San Diego State is so above the MWC, why did they need to ride another school's coattail in order to not only leave, but get invited back? If you want to know how rivalries work look at Cal, Stanford and SJSU. All three happen to play each other from time to time, but Cal and Stanford are the rivals despite all three losing to each other. The only way you'd be our rival is if we joined the WCC, and it would be for the Olympic sports only.
In answer to your question if anyone is a rival to us it's UNLV, strictly due to proximity and conference membership.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 23, 2014 11:49:08 GMT -8
By this fall won't the AAC be down to 8 teams , with UCONN and Cincy looking to leave, if they can get an invite. Does the Power5 want them? The AAC is not a Power5 but better then the MW . Population wise for TV and recruiting states.AAC could look at a variety of ways to go . Does Sterk have a decent relationship with the remaining teams in the AAC . What network contracts will be out there. A lot may also be dependent on what happens with the Big 12.(Texas and the Sooners) The AAC will have 12 teams. UCF USF SMU Houston Tulsa Tulane Temple Navy Memphis ECU Cincinnati UConn Granted, I could see Cincinnati & UConn bolting to the BIG XII & ACC respectively ASAP.
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Apr 23, 2014 11:50:12 GMT -8
"No. 18 M. Hoops Defeats Cross-Town Rival USD, 72-56
Chase Tapley scored 15 points, including consecutive 3-pointers during a decisive 12-0 run, and Jamaal Franklin had 14 to lead No. 18 San Diego State to a 72-56 victory against crosstown rival San Diego on Saturday night."
- The Official Site of Aztec Athletics
Someone's posting false information on an offical site. Heads are gonna roll!
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Post by San Diego Football Fan on Apr 23, 2014 11:52:35 GMT -8
How come you can't name another school that considers SDSU its biggest rival? As for my second psot, every non-AQ program "dreams" of leaving for a bigger or better conference. That wasn't my point. If San Diego State is so above the MWC, why did they need to ride another school's coattail in order to not only leave, but get invited back? If you want to know how rivalries work look at Cal, Stanford and SJSU. All three happen to play each other from time to time, but Cal and Stanford are the rivals despite all three losing to each other. The only way you'd be our rival is if we joined the WCC, and it would be for the Olympic sports only.
In answer to your question if anyone is a rival to us it's UNLV, strictly due to proximity and conference membership. UNLV's biggest rival is Nevada. Try again.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Apr 23, 2014 12:07:23 GMT -8
If you want to know how rivalries work look at Cal, Stanford and SJSU. All three happen to play each other from time to time, but Cal and Stanford are the rivals despite all three losing to each other. The only way you'd be our rival is if we joined the WCC, and it would be for the Olympic sports only.
In answer to your question if anyone is a rival to us it's UNLV, strictly due to proximity and conference membership. UNLV's biggest rival is Nevada. Try again. hahaha wow, you've lost all credibility by saying that. Nevada isn't even on UNLV's radar. UNLV's biggest rival is (probably) UNM, but we are a close second.
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