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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Apr 1, 2013 15:03:29 GMT -8
April Fools!
Lost a close one 11-2. That middle relief crew could be scary this year.
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Post by smoketree on Apr 1, 2013 17:16:39 GMT -8
I have already lost interest in this boring team.
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Post by podpeople on Apr 1, 2013 20:41:55 GMT -8
dudes, lets wait til the play a few more games before we start the groaning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 15:06:30 GMT -8
dudes, lets wait til the play a few more games before we start the groaning. Agreed. The team should be competitive, but I don't think they'll be .500. Let's see how it plays out.
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Post by aztecmusician on Apr 2, 2013 17:00:57 GMT -8
Edison Volquez is our no. 1 starter.
Think about that for a second.
Quite a far cry from Kershaw, Kennedy or Cain.
All of the optimism the organization sold us before the season is a lot of BS. Their credibility is already at an all time low.
It is only a matter of a few weeks before Quentin will be on the DL and the reality is that the Padres traded a future NL HR league leader in Rizzo for a power pitcher with an injury prone arm.
'nuff said.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Apr 3, 2013 16:29:58 GMT -8
This is truly painful to watch. 3 homers by Parked Richard in one game and the boys looking like the Keystone Cops.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 11:02:23 GMT -8
The fact that Mark Kotsay is batting third today troubles me greatly. That guy is a pinch hitter, late inning outfield replacement......IF THAT. Good grief! Is it 2001?
And Venable is in the 2 slot. SIgh.....
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Post by mayham81 on Apr 4, 2013 12:35:19 GMT -8
I'll take 1-2 over 0-3! Stults looked good, just has to get his pitch count down. They still ain't hitting a lick, hopefully Colorado can solve that.
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Post by AztecBill on Apr 4, 2013 16:24:52 GMT -8
Edison Volquez is our no. 1 starter. Think about that for a second. Quite a far cry from Kershaw, Kennedy or Cain. All of the optimism the organization sold us before the season is a lot of BS. Their credibility is already at an all time low. It is only a matter of a few weeks before Quentin will be on the DL and the reality is that the Padres traded a future NL HR league leader in Rizzo for a power pitcher with an injury prone arm. 'nuff said. Rotations are set to have #1 pitchers start the home opener.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 17:24:48 GMT -8
Edison Volquez is our no. 1 starter. Think about that for a second. Quite a far cry from Kershaw, Kennedy or Cain. All of the optimism the organization sold us before the season is a lot of BS. Their credibility is already at an all time low. It is only a matter of a few weeks before Quentin will be on the DL and the reality is that the Padres traded a future NL HR league leader in Rizzo for a power pitcher with an injury prone arm. 'nuff said. Rotations are set to have #1 pitchers start the home opener. That's simply not true. Jared Weaver, Justin Masterson, James Shields, Jon Lester, Justin Verlander, Jeff Samardjia, Matt Cain, Felix Hernandez, and Cole Hamels are all #1 starters who opened up on the road this year. #1's in almost all cases start the OPENER. Home or away. In case you're wondering, Clayton Richard is set to start the HOME opener on Tuesday against the Dodgers.
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Post by jeffreylw on Apr 5, 2013 6:18:03 GMT -8
That's simply not true. Jared Weaver, Justin Masterson, James Shields, Jon Lester, Justin Verlander, Jeff Samardjia, Matt Cain, Felix Hernandez, and Cole Hamels are all #1 starters who opened up on the road this year. #1's in almost all cases start the OPENER. Home or away. In case you're wondering, Clayton Richard is set to start the HOME opener on Tuesday against the Dodgers. This isn't the first time the padres have had this dilemma. The real issue is that Volquez would start either game. Same goes for Richard. He's gonna get hammered by LA. Neither guy is a number one starter. I'm not even sure that either is a #4 on a division-winning team. None of our starters would be in LA of SF's starting rotation. As a matter of fact of all the pitchers in the openers Volquez was rated as last. We have 3 #5 starters and a bunch of long relievers. It will be 2-3 years before we have a decent starting rotation because this ownership group is not going to pay for a front line starter. I can't really blame them because of the money being paid pitchers like Greinke. Especially if getting a quality pitcher costs too much of our minor league talent. We have some pitchers in AA and below that will deserve to be in a MLB rotation and not be there because it's the best we have.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 7:44:55 GMT -8
I disagree. I think if Clayton Richard is your teams #3 starter that means you have a pretty damn good #1 and #2. He's a proven starter at a big league level. He'll be just fine.
That being said he is no an Ace.
We've had 2 Aces on our team the last few years and we traded both of them away.
Sure would be nice to have a team with Latos, Peavy and Gonzalez on it.
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Post by aztecmusician on Apr 5, 2013 9:12:38 GMT -8
This team is supposedly built around pitching and defense. This lineup is never going to bombard the bleachers with home runs or hit for avg. with any consistency.
Since none of their talented young arms can stay healthy, (Kelly, Leubke, Cashner ect.) the front office needs to spend some money on some established veterans who can give them 200+ innings with a sub 3.50 ERA. Otherwise this is a AAA team disguised as a major league franchise.
And make no mistake about this:
San Diego fans will not suffer any mediocrity. Win and we love you. Lose and we stay home/ignore you.
It's time the new ownership recognize that there is very little major league talent in this organization. The youth movement, as always, has not worked and it is obvious that this front office does not have the midas touch when it comes to judging prospects. Put some money into your product or have an empty stadium in the immediate future.
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Post by jeffreylw on Apr 5, 2013 9:46:48 GMT -8
I disagree. I think if Clayton Richard is your teams #3 starter that means you have a pretty damn good #1 and #2. He's a proven starter at a big league level. He'll be just fine. That being said he is no an Ace. We've had 2 Aces on our team the last few years and we traded both of them away. Sure would be nice to have a team with Latos, Peavy and Gonzalez on it. I believe Richard is our best pitcher. That being said his best fastball in game 2 was 88mph. Unless he locates his pitches very well he will struggle to win his 14 games like last year. That being said he wouldn't make LA's rotation IMHO. These owners will probably never pay for a pitcher like Peavy and would probably get rid of a front of the rotation pitcher after a year or 2 of arbitration. We did get a peek at the future yesterday though with these starters: SA DonnRoach 5.0 IP 1H, 2BBs, 4Ks LE Matt Wisler 5.0 IP 3H, 2BBs, 5Ks FW RHP Ross (W) 5.0 IP H, BB, 4Ks We have a lot coming. I doubt they will be here too many years though. Fort Wayne has 5 starters that are in the Padres top 12 rated players. If succeed and they get here around the same time we may have a few years of contending. (2016-2019 might be fun) 84 and 98 were fun but it's has been kind of mind numbing rooting for this team for so many years. I have to admit, being there for Garvey's HR was a blast. (pun intended)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 11:50:40 GMT -8
I disagree. I think if Clayton Richard is your teams #3 starter that means you have a pretty damn good #1 and #2. He's a proven starter at a big league level. He'll be just fine. That being said he is no an Ace. We've had 2 Aces on our team the last few years and we traded both of them away. Sure would be nice to have a team with Latos, Peavy and Gonzalez on it. I believe Richard is our best pitcher. That being said his best fastball in game 2 was 88mph. Unless he locates his pitches very well he will struggle to win his 14 games like last year. That being said he wouldn't make LA's rotation IMHO. These owners will probably never pay for a pitcher like Peavy and would probably get rid of a front of the rotation pitcher after a year or 2 of arbitration. We did get a peek at the future yesterday though with these starters: SA DonnRoach 5.0 IP 1H, 2BBs, 4Ks LE Matt Wisler 5.0 IP 3H, 2BBs, 5Ks FW RHP Ross (W) 5.0 IP H, BB, 4Ks We have a lot coming. I doubt they will be here too many years though. Fort Wayne has 5 starters that are in the Padres top 12 rated players. If succeed and they get here around the same time we may have a few years of contending. (2016-2019 might be fun) 84 and 98 were fun but it's has been kind of mind numbing rooting for this team for so many years. I have to admit, being there for Garvey's HR was a blast. (pun intended) Yeah, and a few years ago those names were Stauffer, Carrillo, Simon Castro, and Poreda. Point being....longtime Pads fans want to see guys producing at the major league level already. Any organization can point to guys producing in A or AA ball. I really like Weiland and Erlin, of our young guys. But who knows how good they may be. Sure, you want and need kids in the farm system with high ceilings. But you also need to spend SOME money on harvested talent. Mark Kotsay hitting third in ANY teams lineup in the year 2013 is a friggin JOKE. That guy sucks! He hasn't had an OPS over .702 in four years. He is at best, a 4th OF on any team. If that. Venable hitting 2? LOL. He's a 4th OF also. And then, the one guy that DO pay (Quentin), has (and had) bad knees and belongs as a DH in the American League. Instead, he's signed to play LF in spacious Petco. WTF???
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Apr 6, 2013 19:09:38 GMT -8
1-4, I am impressed. No Headley and Forsythe and we will definitely have a chance to lose 100. Pitching isn't horrendous (save JR Ewing's 3 HR's) but still not nearly enough to support this weak offensive club. When we we hit our first HR? This month or next?
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Post by Aztec89 on Apr 6, 2013 19:51:21 GMT -8
1-4, I am impressed. No Headley and Forsythe and we will definitely have a chance to lose 100. Pitching isn't horrendous (save JR Ewing's 3 HR's) but still not nearly enough to support this weak offensive club. When we we hit our first HR? This month or next? Tomorrow. Sunday at 5,200 ft.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Apr 8, 2013 6:54:20 GMT -8
Well, let's see. Outscored 40-14 so far with only 6 runs scored in three games at Coor's. Now to face a Dodger staff that can flat out pitch. So I'm guessing the first Padre HR won't come before the weekend series with the Rookies. Then again, we couldn't hit one in the thin air so who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2013 10:08:22 GMT -8
I went ahead and dropped Maybin in my fantasy league. Not based off of four or five games, but went back and looked and realized that aside from steals, well he simply has not been a productive offensve ballplayer. Little power, doesn't draw walks, weak OPS.
He'll be a 4th outfielder in the majors within two or three years.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Apr 8, 2013 17:24:19 GMT -8
Well, let's see. Outscored 40-14 so far with only 6 runs scored in three games at Coor's. Now to face a Dodger staff that can flat out pitch. So I'm guessing the first Padre HR won't come before the weekend series with the Rookies. Then again, we couldn't hit one in the thin air so who knows. Just wait till tonight and the next couple games. AGON will go deeper than ever in this park. Didn't they do him a favor and move the right/right-center fences in? This should be a stat-padding series for him and Kemp.
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