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Post by Fred Noonan on Jan 5, 2013 22:25:33 GMT -8
Nice to see a thoughtful public airing of the issues. I concur that it is deep and well written. It's the kind of intellectual analysis I'd love to see more of. There is much there to think about. Thank you. Fred Noonan.
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Post by Simsonic on Jan 5, 2013 22:27:53 GMT -8
What a well written article! Finally.
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Post by azteclou on Jan 6, 2013 8:07:45 GMT -8
I kept reading and reading and realizing here is a UT story that's well thought out and well written. Congrats Mark Ziegler. I was siding towards staying in MWC but I say screw them. Lets move on!!
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Post by monty on Jan 6, 2013 9:52:33 GMT -8
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Post by myownwords on Jan 6, 2013 10:02:30 GMT -8
I think there may be more going on under the surface. Is it just coincidence that this writer is actually discussing SDSU football in a positive manner after, only a few years ago, suggesting we drop football? Maybe not. We often didn't get front sports' page splashes like this even DURING football season. I think the admin and Doug Manchester are trying to signal something and create leverage at the same time.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Jan 6, 2013 11:18:26 GMT -8
After seeing the thread title, it was all I could do to wait until the hardcopy of the UT arrived this morning.
Great read; nothing revolutionary that hasn't been covered here in the forum ad naseum, aside form maybe the hint of a guarantee. If Aresco can provide a guarantee of min. $5 million, it should ease the sense of instability that has inhibited Aresco's efforts to lock down a new TV contract.
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Post by Cwag on Jan 6, 2013 11:35:27 GMT -8
Equal member of a conference or Boise's Bitch...Not much of a decision really.
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Post by bearfoot on Jan 6, 2013 11:51:18 GMT -8
After seeing the thread title, it was all I could do to wait until the hardcopy of the UT arrived this morning. Great read; nothing revolutionary that hasn't been covered here in the forum ad naseum, aside form maybe the hint of a guarantee. If Aresco can provide a guarantee of min. $5 million, it should ease the sense of instability that has inhibited Aresco's efforts to lock down a new TV contract. one difference between what has been discussed here and Z's article, is that we know that the article has been supported by real facts. I I do not mean that stuff here isn't real and/or factual, I mean that Z has to meet a level that we do not. Besides, the article was all neatly packaged.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Jan 6, 2013 11:58:36 GMT -8
After seeing the thread title, it was all I could do to wait until the hardcopy of the UT arrived this morning. Great read; nothing revolutionary that hasn't been covered here in the forum ad naseum, aside form maybe the hint of a guarantee. If Aresco can provide a guarantee of min. $5 million, it should ease the sense of instability that has inhibited Aresco's efforts to lock down a new TV contract. one difference between what has been discussed here and Z's article, is that we know that the article has been supported by real facts. I I do not mean that stuff here isn't real and/or factual, I mean that Z has to meet a level that we do not. Besides, the article was all neatly packaged. Not to mention the article managed to completely avoid the level of douchebaggery the discussion here has unfortunately devolved to as often as not since Boise announced their (non)move.
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Post by gamer2101 on Jan 6, 2013 12:16:12 GMT -8
You can't hate Boise for taking care of #1. They got a sweet deal that they couldn't refuse. They didn't force the MW to agree to those terms. Apparently the MW is saying if we have Boise, we don't need anybody else. We will take care of them while they take care of us and the rest of you guys get whatever scraps that fall from the table.
How does the MW expect to attract more teams under those circumstances?
Anybody know how to put the Big East logo back onto GoAztecs.com?
sent at warp speed with my SG3
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 12:19:05 GMT -8
Isn't the paper's actual name the IdahoBoiseStatesman?
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Post by monty on Jan 6, 2013 12:29:52 GMT -8
Isn't the paper's actual name the IdahoBoiseStatesman? SpudsPravda, owned by Chairman Bobby Kustchev
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Post by myownwords on Jan 6, 2013 12:40:22 GMT -8
So if I'm properly analyzing this, we'd have to say the Boise just went indy. Yes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 12:49:22 GMT -8
So if I'm properly analyzing this, we'd have to say the Boise just went indy. Yes? Sorta. Boise's going to use the rest of the MWC like BYU is using Idaho and NMSU.
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Post by myownwords on Jan 6, 2013 12:50:38 GMT -8
So if I'm properly analyzing this, we'd have to say the Boise just went indy. Yes? Sorta. Boise's going to use the rest of the MWC like BYU is using Idaho and NMSU. Damn. You can't make this stuff up.
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Post by Motown Monty on Jan 6, 2013 16:53:12 GMT -8
Isn't the paper's actual name the IdahoBoiseStatesman? "The Broncos also return as league bully and the team everyone else wants to beat the most. In football. In basketball. In swimming. In checkers." SERIOUSLY? Hell the Aztecs beat the Broncs on the blue in the ONLY sport BSU could even claim ANY dominance. Basketball, swimming, checkers? Delusional. No wonder so many of their fans are arrogant... they are fed this provincial garbage constantly.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jan 6, 2013 18:03:40 GMT -8
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Post by kman82 on Jan 6, 2013 18:33:06 GMT -8
The point I have yet to see brought up is that MWC membership requires the school to have a football program. Without a decent TV contract, and based upon the local community's 'rabid' fanaticism for seeing the AZTECS go toe to toe with such epic opponents as New Mexico and Wyoming, coupled with the reallity of Cali's financial situation, I could see a football program already struggling with relevance, eventually cease to exist as a D1 program and thereby get the boot from the MWC. The only way the football program is going to put the numbers in the seats needed to survive would be to build an on campus stadium or play in conference that has some draw to it. Granted the stadium is probably never going to happen, and the Big East football membership a this time is not what it was; but my thinking is that all things being equal - unless the BE TV deal is less than the MWC you have to make the move. Basketball stands a better chancing of thriving and continuing to grow in the BW than football stands of surviving in the MWC - and SDSU without a D-1 football program would be the end of any possibility of any conference affiliation of any worth. kman out
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Post by azteccc on Jan 6, 2013 18:34:39 GMT -8
Basketball stands a better chancing of thriving and continuing to grow in the BW than football stands of surviving in the MWC - nope
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Jan 6, 2013 18:53:16 GMT -8
The article by Brian Murphy suggests that Boise is not cannibalizing the existing tv deal but allowing each individual school to take the lion's share of revenues of those games that are televised nationally. My interpretation is that Boise felt they would likely be on national tv a lot more than most other teams so why should they share in that incremental revenue when they (Boise) were responsible for generating it in the first place? That provision applies to all of the schools in the MWC so it's not just Boise who benefits if they get on national tv. However, what constitutes "national tv" ?? Is that ESPN or NBCSN or CBSSN or ? Without knowing the details, Boise's decision on returning to the MWC was based on allowing Boise to keep those revenues that they thought they could generate by being on national tv........and not eroding the existing tv revenues that existing MWC members share. In other words, Boise will NOT share revenues in national tv games that they participate in.....but that provision also applies to the remaining teams in the MWC which probably won't appear on national tv. From Boise's perspective, Kustra felt "why share in money that the MWC would not have generated anyway except for Boise being on national tv"? On the surface, it does not strike me as an unfair deal for anyone in the MWC.
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