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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 10:20:37 GMT -8
Those who say it doesn't matter are fooling themselves.
How many other SDSU games were televised on ESPN's main network this year or on the main network of the other TV sports networks for that matter? Answer: none.
How many other SDSU games were significant enough that somebody paid for a blimp to hover over the stadium? Answer: none.
Chuck Long was wrong about most things during his tenure at SDSU but a couple years into his tenure he was 100% correct about our national reputation. Chuck basically said then that SDSU desperately needed a big win during a game that the nation would see as changing its decades long underachievement. Chuck called that a "statement" win.
The two guys sitting behind us said what I thought were a lot of dumb things during the game but one thing they said as the game began was entirely accurate. That is, the Poinsettia Bowl BYU Cougars had as a bad a QB and tailback combination as any BYU team the Aztecs had ever played. That fact gave us a chance to jump on them and just beat them into submission on a national stage.
When we scored a TD on the tipped INT midway through the second quarter to bring us what appeared would be a 13-0 lead and all the momentum, I thought we might just do that. That elation lasted all of about one minute, until we were called for a block below the knees on the return. Then two plays later were called for holding . . . then Dingwell was sacked . . . then we were so far away from BYU's goal line we couldn't even attempt a FG on fourth down. Then came the second half.
Maybe a beatdown of BYU under the circumstances wouldn't have risen to being a STATEMENT win. However, we at least could have debated that issue. Instead there's no debate today the nation continues to view SDSU football as a program which just can't get over the hump. It's sad and if Rocky Long actually sees bowl games as little more than party time for the players, that's really, really bad IMO.
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 10:25:23 GMT -8
The nation doesn't view SDSU as anything. We don't even register on a national level.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 10:31:13 GMT -8
The nation doesn't view SDSU as anything. We don't even register on a national level. Then we need a STATEMENT win in order to do so. Doesn't change the fact that with a chance to gain some positive recognition, we again screwed the pooch. Big time. |
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Post by azteccc on Dec 21, 2012 10:32:05 GMT -8
The nation doesn't view SDSU as anything. We don't even register on a national level. football doesn't |
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 10:33:25 GMT -8
The nation doesn't view SDSU as anything. We don't even register on a national level. Then we need a STATEMENT win in order to do so. Doesn't change the fact that with a chance to gain some positive recognition, we again screwed the pooch. Big time. Last night wasn't that opportunity. It would have been a big deal for us to beat BYU. The nation gave a collective yawn. Next year we'll have three or four chances for the type of win you're talking about. |
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 10:34:41 GMT -8
The nation doesn't view SDSU as anything. We don't even register on a national level. football doesn't That's what we're talking about dipshit. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 10:36:26 GMT -8
The nation doesn't view SDSU as anything. We don't even register on a national level. Maybe so, but it sure sucks to log in to SI.com this morning and one of the "Top Headlines" references BYU defense "smothers" SDSU.  sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 10:37:02 GMT -8
That's what we're talking about dipshit. (just choked on my pepsi)...LOL... |
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Post by azteccc on Dec 21, 2012 10:39:24 GMT -8
That's what we're talking about dipshit. actually you said SDSU asshat. didn't mention football. news for ya, moving football to a different but still s#!++y league isn't going to help. how bout you call up your boys and tell them to EARN IT, instead of having Sterk try and hand it to them on a platter. cuz again, it won't help when the product is what it is. |
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Post by matteosandiego on Dec 21, 2012 10:44:00 GMT -8
Then we need a STATEMENT win in order to do so. Doesn't change the fact that with a chance to gain some positive recognition, we again screwed the pooch. Big time. Last night wasn't that opportunity. It would have been a big deal for us to beat BYU. The nation gave a collective yawn. Next year we'll have three or four chances for the type of win you're talking about. Exactly this. This bowl game was significant to SDSU and that was it. The byu fanbase cared more about Jabari than Montezuma yesterday even. The loss does hurt, but it hurts US. The national audience is sleeping on us until we get that Statement win. BUT, once we get that Statement victory all the previous sins will be forgotten. Kind of like how the Boise State win got us to this point. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 10:46:25 GMT -8
Then we need a STATEMENT win in order to do so. Doesn't change the fact that with a chance to gain some positive recognition, we again screwed the pooch. Big time. Last night wasn't that opportunity. It would have been a big deal for us to beat BYU. The nation gave a collective yawn. Next year we'll have three or four chances for the type of win you're talking about. This year's BYU teams couldn't score. We therefore had a chance to lay a shutout on them. Score enough and it might have caught somebody's attention. Your speculation that it wouldn't have is no more valid than mine that it could have. However, the argument is moot because of our typical underachievement. |
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 10:46:51 GMT -8
That's what we're talking about dipshit. actually you said SDSU asshat. didn't mention football. news for ya, moving football to a different but still s#!++y league isn't going to help. how bout you call up your boys and tell them to EARN IT, instead of having Sterk try and hand it to them on a platter. cuz again, it won't help when the product is what it is. The OP specifically talked about football. I'm sorry you're too dense to comprehend what is being discussed. Lol, what has basketball earned? Two NCAA wins in the history of our basketball program? Our football product was good enough to be conference champions. Losing a bowl game doesn't change that. Both of our big programs have a LOT of work to do. Hopefully our basketball program does some this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 10:49:41 GMT -8
The nation doesn't view SDSU as anything. We don't even register on a national level. Maybe so, but it sure sucks to log in to SI.com this morning and one of the "Top Headlines" references BYU defense "smothers" SDSU. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/Thank you. Maybe the Poinsettia Bowl result is completely forgotten within 24 hours but at least for that 24-hour period, it's reported on most updates on these types of internet sites and sportstalk radio. And when thousands of sports fans across the country see or hear it, they're reaction is "typical San Diego State." |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 10:52:04 GMT -8
Both of our big programs have a LOT of work to do. Hopefully our basketball program does some this year. But the hoops program continues to progress. For football, this was a good year. However, other than the win at Boise, there was no progression over last year since both included nine wins and both ended with disappointing performances in a nationally televised game. |
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 10:52:24 GMT -8
Maybe so, but it sure sucks to log in to SI.com this morning and one of the "Top Headlines" references BYU defense "smothers" SDSU. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/Thank you. Maybe the Poinsettia Bowl result is completely forgotten within 24 hours but at least for that 24-hour period, it's reported on most updates on these types of internet sites and sportstalk radio. And when thousands of sports fans across the country see or hear it, they're reaction is "typical San Diego State." That's where we disagree. I don't think we register enough to be "typical" anything. They're more likely to see the score and say, "Hey, isn't that the school Marshall Faulk went to?" Only we think "typical SDSU." |
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 10:53:41 GMT -8
Both of our big programs have a LOT of work to do. Hopefully our basketball program does some this year. But the hoops program continues to progress. For football, this was a good year. However, other than the win at Boise, there was no progression over last year since both included nine wins and both ended with disappointing performances in a nationally televised game. We were 8-5 last year. I don't see how you can't see progression in this team. |
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Post by azteccc on Dec 21, 2012 10:55:50 GMT -8
actually you said SDSU asshat. didn't mention football. news for ya, moving football to a different but still s#!++y league isn't going to help. how bout you call up your boys and tell them to EARN IT, instead of having Sterk try and hand it to them on a platter. cuz again, it won't help when the product is what it is. The OP specifically talked about football. I'm sorry you're too dense to comprehend what is being discussed. Lol, what has basketball earned? Two NCAA wins in the history of our basketball program? Our football product was good enough to be conference champions. Losing a bowl game doesn't change that. Both of our big programs have a LOT of work to do. Hopefully our basketball program does some this year. haha yea, 30% of the conference were conference champs. go ahead and hang your hat on the first road win against a ranked opponent in 60 years. i guess that is progress. F you and F football until they prove they can walk onto a field in a relevant game and not $hit the bed. you of all people should be fed up with the 40 years of loser football this school has thrown out there. Sterk needs to pull his head out of his rectum and i'd suggest you do the same. football doesn't deserve $hit until they step up, and if history is any indicator, we'll be waiting a looooonng time unless we go back to d2. |
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Post by k5james on Dec 21, 2012 11:01:38 GMT -8
The OP specifically talked about football. I'm sorry you're too dense to comprehend what is being discussed. Lol, what has basketball earned? Two NCAA wins in the history of our basketball program? Our football product was good enough to be conference champions. Losing a bowl game doesn't change that. Both of our big programs have a LOT of work to do. Hopefully our basketball program does some this year. haha yea, 30% of the conference were conference champs. go ahead and hang your hat on the first road win against a ranked opponent in 60 years. i guess that is progress. F you and F football until they prove they can walk onto a field in a relevant game and not $hit the bed. you of all people should be fed up with the 40 years of loser football this school has thrown out there. Sterk needs to pull his head out of his rectum and i'd suggest you do the same. football doesn't deserve $hit until they step up, and if history is any indicator, we'll be waiting a looooonng time unless we go back to d2. They did, against Boise, one of the harder places to win in all of CFB. I like how you completely ignore the fact that basketball has sucked for pretty much ever and just try to tear down football. Sterk is doing what's best for the entire athletic department. He doesn't have the luxury of being a SDSU basketball fan that only cares about SDSU basketball. Keep up the trolololing though. You discredit your position every time you post. |
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Post by MarshallU on Dec 21, 2012 11:05:46 GMT -8
sweet! we're fighting over which of OUR sports teams has the least amount of success. this is great! well done guys!
a loss always brings out the best in people.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2012 11:07:22 GMT -8
But the hoops program continues to progress. For football, this was a good year. However, other than the win at Boise, there was no progression over last year since both included nine wins and both ended with disappointing performances in a nationally televised game. We were 8-5 last year. I don't see how you can't see progression in this team. I stand corrected. We were 9-4 in 2010. I predicted a couple months ago that if we won at Boise and then finished the season with a bowl game victory that next year, attendance would again be around 40K per game as it was in 2010. I'll now say it will be several thousand less than that. Around 37K because this bowl game loss is going to hurt season ticket sales. Do you disagree with that too? |
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