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Post by gamer2101 on Sept 30, 2012 8:13:28 GMT -8
Ok guy, you're the coach now. Fix it.
Oh, you're NOT a paid collage football coach....ok then, have a seat.
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Post by fightnaztec on Sept 30, 2012 8:18:47 GMT -8
Why is Hugh Jackman yelling on your icon?
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Post by AztecD on Sept 30, 2012 8:21:47 GMT -8
Dumb logic. We're Aztec fans and we have every right to be upset with the garbage we're watching each week. This team is going the wrong way and someone needs to be held accountable. The sooner everyone realizes that Rocky long is not the guy to lead this team to greatness, the sooner we (hopefully) find the guy that can.
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Post by JOCAZTEC on Sept 30, 2012 8:21:53 GMT -8
....ok then, have a seat. Thank you! I needed a new seat. Do I get a choice of colors? Free delivery? Cushioned? Does it roll? Arm rests? What? HAM
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Post by therealeman on Sept 30, 2012 8:34:20 GMT -8
You really don't need to be a coach to understand how bad this team is playing right now, and that change is needed at the head of the table.
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Post by insider on Sept 30, 2012 8:40:12 GMT -8
So, if we lose this game, will all of the homers finally admit that we have continued to regress game after game and NO positive adjustments are being made? No, there will be ad hominem attacks, equivocation, and every other fallacy in the book while they define what a fan is. I support the players most, because I say get them a coach worth a damn This fits under ad hominem.
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Post by insider on Sept 30, 2012 8:43:12 GMT -8
Ok guy, you're the coach now. Fix it. Oh, you're NOT a paid collage football coach....ok then, have a seat. You are right, we should shut up because the head coach who is getting paid a decent amount can't have critisism. He clearly has the program headed in the right direction. Nevermind the fact that he is 1-8 against teams over 500.
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Post by gamer2101 on Sept 30, 2012 8:49:13 GMT -8
Dumb logic. We're Aztec fans and we have every right to be upset with the garbage we're watching each week. This team is going the wrong way and someone needs to be held accountable. The sooner everyone realizes that Rocky long is not the guy to lead this team to greatness, the sooner we (hopefully) find the guy that can. Ok, be upset, that doesn't really affect a lot....from your seat.....at home.... People are calling for a very real firing of a person....you want a guy to lose his job!!! You wanna cut his monthly income to zero....really? As a fan? slow your roll...take a chill pill....I'm not trying to take away anyone's right to an opinion or to voice it....I respect your opinion....I'm glad you're putting it out there....I'm just trying to add a little perspective. I hate losing too...I'm not happy with the way the guys played but Wow! from my fingers to your eyeballs, using Proboards
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Post by gamer2101 on Sept 30, 2012 8:51:04 GMT -8
Ok guy, you're the coach now. Fix it. Oh, you're NOT a paid collage football coach....ok then, have a seat. You are right, we should shut up because the head coach who is getting paid a decent amount can't have critisism. He clearly has the program headed in the right direction. Nevermind the fact that he is 1-8 against teams over 500. Criticism is all talk...that comes with the territory. No big deal...carry on. from my fingers to your eyeballs, using Proboards
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Post by insider on Sept 30, 2012 8:58:01 GMT -8
Dumb logic. We're Aztec fans and we have every right to be upset with the garbage we're watching each week. This team is going the wrong way and someone needs to be held accountable. The sooner everyone realizes that Rocky long is not the guy to lead this team to greatness, the sooner we (hopefully) find the guy that can. Ok, be upset, that doesn't really affect a lot....from your seat.....at home.... People are calling for a very real firing of a person....you want a guy to lose his job!!! You wanna cut his monthly income to zero....really? As a fan? slow your roll...take a chill pill....I'm not trying to take away anyone's right to an opinion or to voice it....I respect your opinion....I'm glad you're putting it out there....I'm just trying to add a little perspective. I hate losing too...I'm not happy with the way the guys played but Wow! from my fingers to your eyeballs, using Proboards He's getting paid to do a job, one that he is failing, so yes I want him fired.
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Post by insider on Sept 30, 2012 8:59:42 GMT -8
You are right, we should shut up because the head coach who is getting paid a decent amount can't have critisism. He clearly has the program headed in the right direction. Nevermind the fact that he is 1-8 against teams over 500. Criticism is all talk...that comes with the territory. No big deal...carry on. from my fingers to your eyeballs, using Proboards Except it gets more than talk when a good portion of the fanbase wants him gone, just need boosters to pay up a portion of money for a new coach, and I've already sent emails for Sterk as to why he needs to go, and others have too. He is a bad head football coach.
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Post by monty on Sept 30, 2012 9:05:53 GMT -8
I just love how the Retiree Long apologists can only construct fallacies to support this 'coach' --- that pretty much says it all about Rocky Long, doesn't it?
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Post by MontezumasRevenge on Sept 30, 2012 9:11:35 GMT -8
Dumb logic. We're Aztec fans and we have every right to be upset with the garbage we're watching each week. This team is going the wrong way and someone needs to be held accountable. The sooner everyone realizes that Rocky long is not the guy to lead this team to greatness, the sooner we (hopefully) find the guy that can. Ok, be upset, that doesn't really affect a lot....from your seat.....at home.... People are calling for a very real firing of a person....you want a guy to lose his job!!! You wanna cut his monthly income to zero....really? As a fan? slow your roll...take a chill pill....I'm not trying to take away anyone's right to an opinion or to voice it....I respect your opinion....I'm glad you're putting it out there....I'm just trying to add a little perspective. I hate losing too...I'm not happy with the way the guys played but Wow! from my fingers to your eyeballs, using Proboards Welcome to the real world. Today must be your first day...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 10:01:11 GMT -8
I always enjoyed making collages in school.
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Post by aztecvatar on Sept 30, 2012 10:15:36 GMT -8
this guy is right...we aren't coaches, most of us never played a down of football, never logged a minute of D-1 basketball, never took a fastball from a Major Leaguer, never starred in a movie...
why even post on a message board if we're not qualified?
SHUT THEM DOWN! ALL OF THEM!
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Post by Spud on Sept 30, 2012 10:25:14 GMT -8
Ok guy, you're the coach now. Fix it. Oh, you're NOT a paid collage football coach....ok then, have a seat. No, but we pay lots of money for a program that has not lived up to even reasonable expectations of success. If you don't like your food at a restaurant do you just eat it anyway because you're not a chef? Didn't think so...
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Post by aztecvatar on Sept 30, 2012 10:40:42 GMT -8
if I'm not doing my job right...i don't think the boss or my customers care about my income...i dunno...call it a hunch.
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Post by Old School on Sept 30, 2012 10:51:09 GMT -8
It's America and we have the right to free speech.
It's a public messageboard, expect criticism, open discussion, sharing of info, and the like without personal attacks.
Too bad we can't stop the trolling, or can we?
Oldie Out
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 30, 2012 10:51:29 GMT -8
Monty and a number of others should step back, take a deep breath, and take another look at our situation. First, Rocky is going to be here at least through the 2013 season; not even if we end up with only 2 or 3 wins this year. I think that outcome is highly unlikely, by the way. We might, worst case, win only 4 or 5, but I would, contrary to me usual practice, be willing to bet a couple of bucks that we will win at least 4 more games.
We still have to play UNLV, Colorado State, Hawaii, Air Force, and Wyoming. If you cannot see at least three wins from that list, I don't know what to say. As I said, I would be willing to bet that we win four of those five. That would give us a 6-6 record, admittedly very, very disappointing.
Still, there is no way in hell that this school is going to fire a coach after just two seasons with a winning record (14-11). Michigan, yes. SDSU, no.
Second, though right now things don't look good, this season is far from over. Seven wins may be the most we can hope for now, but a 7-5 season would not be bad. Progress is what we should be looking for. At this point the team, at least on defense, seems to be regressing. Why is that so? Some fans will cry, "It's the coaching!" They may be correct. Or it may be that we were hurt badly on the defensive line by graduation and simply do not have players ready to step in a perform at the same level we saw last year.
I have long said that our recruiting has to improve. Check out the best teams in the land and you will see that they are blessed with dozens of 3 and 4 star players with an occasional 5-star guy. We are, to this point, getting only a handful of 3s and no 4s. Maybe a big name coach could improve on that, but the chances, even if we had the money, of hiring such a man are not good.
Just because a nationally known coach takes over is no guarantee that the program will suddenly take off like a rocket. It didn't work for John Robinson at UNLV and it didn't work for Rich Rodriquez at Michigan. Conclusion; as much as it galls the average fan, at least a bit of patience is required. Plus a bit of prayer.
Rocky is the HC and will be the HC for a while longer.
AzWm
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Post by killiansc on Sept 30, 2012 10:53:09 GMT -8
Monty and a number of others should step back, take a deep breath, and take another look at our situation. First, Rocky is going to be here at least through the 2013 season; not even if we end up with only 2 or 3 wins this year. I think that outcome is highly unlikely, by the way. We might, worst case, win only 4 or 5, but I would, contrary to me usual practice, be willing to bet a couple of bucks that we will win at least 4 more games. We still have to play UNLV, Colorado State, Hawaii, Air Force, and Wyoming. If you cannot see at least three wins from that list, I don't know what to say. As I said, I would be willing to bet that we win four of those five. That would give us a 6-6 record, admittedly very, very disappointing. Still, there is no way in hell that this school is going to fire a coach after just two seasons with a winning record (14-11). Michigan, yes. SDSU, no. Second, though right now things don't look good, this season is far from over. Seven wins may be the most we can hope for now, but a 7-5 season would not be bad. Progress is what we should be looking for. At this point the team, at least on defense, seems to be regressing. Why is that so? Some fans will cry, "It's the coaching!" They may be correct. Or it may be that we were hurt badly on the defensive line by graduation and simply do not have players ready to step in a perform at the same level we saw last year. I have long said that our recruiting has to improve. Check out the best teams in the land and you will see that they are blessed with dozens of 3 and 4 star players with an occasional 5-star guy. We are, to this point, getting only a handful of 3s and no 4s. Maybe a big name coach could improve on that, but the chances, even if we had the money, of hiring such a man are not good. Just because a nationally known coach takes over is no guarantee that the program will suddenly take off like a rocket. It didn't work for John Robinson at UNLV and it didn't work for Rich Rodriquez at Michigan. Conclusion; as much as it galls the average fan, at least a bit of patience is required. Plus a bit of prayer. Rocky is the HC and will be the HC for a while longer. AzWm Are you shutting down the Fire Rocky threads?
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