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Post by Motown Monty on Sept 16, 2012 11:06:58 GMT -8
I am sure Rocky Long will say that SJSU is the best team ever, we have no chance etc...like he did before this game and the bowl game. Problem is, I think that some of the Aztec kids believe it. If you believe that Rocky tells his kids the same $#!+ he feeds the press then you know nothing about football, coaching and team motivational dynamics.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 16, 2012 11:15:08 GMT -8
This thread (even and especially its very title) is sickening. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't be a heavy favorite AND cover the number. Some of us have low expectations. I mean come on. San Jose State? The problem is that loser Chuck Long is still haunting the fans psyche from which they still haven't completely recovered from. He was the dummest hire that I've ever seen. Hoke was on the verge of erasing that loss of confidence before he left. Last year we had a couple of ugly wins and losses and that put Rocky on questionable status, regardless of won loss record. It's funny, in our fans' minds everybody has gotten "better" this year, except our Aztecs. True or not, this season is pivotal as we head into the nBE. It'll determine whether Rocky is continuing where Hoke left off, or it's the beginning of a drop off. Excuses not accepted. Well John, some of us felt Rocky was questionable the day Sterk flinched and hired him in a panic. Sterk may have had no other choice, but I'd like to think he had feelers out (legally) beginning in November or earlier, when RichRod was on the ropes. Hopefully, he introduced himself to the ND's coach Chris Mussman. And I can't recall, were any of the names released who were back-ups to Hoke? Where are they now?
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Post by aztecdad on Sept 16, 2012 11:52:05 GMT -8
Eskridge went to Minnesota, not Wisconsin. Big difference. Oops, I didn't catch that that mistake before posting.. You are right he is from Minnesota, not Wisconsin. Either way, the running game is still not SJSU's strength. Eskridge is still better than most RB's SJSU has seen in the past few years. IF he gets an open lane, he can do some damage. The run blocking for SJ has always been suspect...okay...it has been weak. One of the big differences is the conditioning and depth. The team has a full load of scholarships. They still have gas in the tank in the 2nd half. They make great adjustments at halftime and tighten up their defense. They have done that in all three games so far. SJSU has outscored its opponent 42-0 in the 3rd quarters and 68-16 in the 2nd half this season. Still expect SDSU to be favored, but not by a huge margin.
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Post by sjsbuff on Sept 16, 2012 11:57:03 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 12:11:34 GMT -8
The problem is that loser Chuck Long is still haunting the fans psyche from which they still haven't completely recovered from. He was the dummest hire that I've ever seen. Hoke was on the verge of erasing that loss of confidence before he left. Last year we had a couple of ugly wins and losses and that put Rocky on questionable status, regardless of won loss record. It's funny, in our fans' minds everybody has gotten "better" this year, except our Aztecs. True or not, this season is pivotal as we head into the nBE. It'll determine whether Rocky is continuing where Hoke left off, or it's the beginning of a drop off. Excuses not accepted. Well John, some of us felt Rocky was questionable the day Sterk flinched and hired him in a panic. Sterk may have had no other choice, but I'd like to think he had feelers out (legally) beginning in November or earlier, when RichRod was on the ropes. Hopefully, he introduced himself to the ND's coach Craig Bohl. And I can't recall, were any of the names released who were back-ups to Hoke? Where are they now? Some people think pigs fly too. Rocky Long was the only choice given the team loved him he saved the recruiting class and his basic style is good hard nosed football. Rich Rod ::)we can not pay 2 million dollars for a coach be serious. The entire team we built on offense would nto longer fit.Two seasons and he would do the Hoke Poke out of town.Seriously Football is a process you bulid a progam.
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Post by jasweaver on Sept 16, 2012 12:13:15 GMT -8
"And I can't recall, were any of the names released who were back-ups to Hoke? Where are they now?" ----they are sitting in your War Room, planning strategy with the Idiot Savant, feeding him tidbits of information that he can post here and then say, "see, it was posted on Aztecmesa" so it has to be true ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 12:16:26 GMT -8
Eskridge went to Minnesota, not Wisconsin. Big difference. Oops, I didn't catch that that mistake before posting.. You are right he is from Minnesota, not Wisconsin. Either way, the running game is still not SJSU's strength. Eskridge is still better than most RB's SJSU has seen in the past few years. IF he gets an open lane, he can do some damage. The run blocking for SJ has always been suspect...okay...it has been weak. One of the big differences is the conditioning and depth. The team has a full load of scholarships. They still have gas in the tank in the 2nd half. They make great adjustments at halftime and tighten up their defense. They have done that in all three games so far. SJSU has outscored its opponent 42-0 in the 3rd quarters and 68-16 in the 2nd half this season. Still expect SDSU to be favored, but not by a huge margin. I would bet on San jose they ja ahve a guy who can kick a field goal and can pass. If SDSU wins it will be in a shoot out. If I were san Jose I would nto evne try to run except the occasional draw play, pass, pass, pass. The Aztecs can not stop it.
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Post by 78aztec82 on Sept 16, 2012 12:17:12 GMT -8
I am sure Rocky Long will say that SJSU is the best team ever, we have no chance etc...like he did before this game and the bowl game. Problem is, I think that some of the Aztec kids believe it. Can you provide that RL quote before the UND game please? Thanks!
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Post by myownwords on Sept 16, 2012 12:56:42 GMT -8
"And I can't recall, were any of the names released who were back-ups to Hoke? Where are they now?" ----they are sitting in your War Room, planning strategy with the Idiot Savant, feeding him tidbits of information that he can post here and then say, "see, it was posted on Aztecmesa" so it has to be true ;D what?
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Post by Aztec89 on Sept 16, 2012 13:19:39 GMT -8
I think San Jose St leads the all time head to VS SDSU. Also, I think they have a better all time Bowl record at D-1. When you boil it down to what it is, we have no claim to superiority over their program.
Just another example of the Delusions of Grandeur that putrifies the minds of many Aztec Faithful.
This is a bigger game than most realize, or are perhaps capable of admitting.
Beat SJSU, gain momentum. Lose? ........
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Post by 78aztec82 on Sept 16, 2012 13:54:17 GMT -8
This thread (even and especially its very title) is sickening. There is absolutely no reason we shouldn't be a heavy favorite AND cover the number. Some of us have low expectations. I mean come on. San Jose State? Why do you say that? Have you seen what they've done this season so far? They seem to be doing pretty well against good teams.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 16, 2012 14:02:29 GMT -8
Well John, some of us felt Rocky was questionable the day Sterk flinched and hired him in a panic. Sterk may have had no other choice, but I'd like to think he had feelers out (legally) beginning in November or earlier, when RichRod was on the ropes. Hopefully, he introduced himself to the ND's coach Craig Bohl. And I can't recall, were any of the names released who were back-ups to Hoke? Where are they now? Some people think pigs fly too. Rocky Long was the only choice given the team loved him he saved the recruiting class and his basic style is good hard nosed football. Rich Rod ::)we can not pay 2 million dollars for a coach be serious. The entire team we built on offense would nto longer fit.Two seasons and he would do the Hoke Poke out of town.Seriously Football is a process you bulid a progam. If the money from the Big East is as good as we hope, I would expect us to at least double the HC's salary. By the way, my post was flawed if you took away from it that you thought I felt we should have gone after RichRod. Never gave that a thought.
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Post by insider on Sept 16, 2012 16:37:18 GMT -8
Well John, some of us felt Rocky was questionable the day Sterk flinched and hired him in a panic. Sterk may have had no other choice, but I'd like to think he had feelers out (legally) beginning in November or earlier, when RichRod was on the ropes. Hopefully, he introduced himself to the ND's coach Craig Bohl. And I can't recall, were any of the names released who were back-ups to Hoke? Where are they now? Some people think pigs fly too. Rocky Long was the only choice given the team loved him he saved the recruiting class and his basic style is good hard nosed football. Rich Rod ::)we can not pay 2 million dollars for a coach be serious. The entire team we built on offense would nto longer fit.Two seasons and he would do the Hoke Poke out of town.Seriously Football is a process you bulid a progam. He was the only option when Mike Leach basically begged for the job? Really? He would have done a hell of a lot better job recruiting than Rocky has.
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Post by Draztec on Sept 16, 2012 17:50:02 GMT -8
Insider-are you basing that off of what?
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Post by aztecjake on Sept 16, 2012 19:24:06 GMT -8
I'm not much of a gambling man, but if I were I would take the Aztecs and give up the 3.5 points. I expect we will see the 'D' of the Army game and the 'O' of the UND game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 19:49:28 GMT -8
If this link that shows the depth chart is accurate then we know part of the reason why SJSU is having a good season this year. They only have one soph. starting on offense, all others are either Juniors or Seniors. On defense only three soph. The rest are Juniors or seniors. While they aren't big up front they have experience. I haven't seen them play this year and only saw the Army game for SDSU this year so can't say who would win. I would say that SDSU should get better as the year goes on and they gain experience. Are they good enough right now to win this game? I think they are but that is why they play the game. cfn.scout.com/2/1209524.html
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2012 20:03:08 GMT -8
San Jose State has a respectable team. Anyone who thinks this should be a cakewalk is kidding themselves.
They played Stanford tough, and they wiped the floor with Colorado State. Their QB threw for similar yardage against Stanford as Barkley did. I'll be pleased with a W period, I don't care what the score is.
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Post by Aztec For Life on Sept 16, 2012 20:13:28 GMT -8
I respect San Jose. I'll be very happy with a win no matter what happens. But I will be pissed with a loss at home. We need this win to go into conference play in Fresno with confidence. Being your friends this week. 30k will not help.
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Post by ned4 on Sept 16, 2012 20:17:10 GMT -8
Early line: SDSU -3
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 16, 2012 20:33:54 GMT -8
That is offshore, there is only one vegas book open and that is the wyn that opened at -4.5 and has fallen to -4.0 Not sure why the other Vegas books have not posted.
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