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Post by sdsu1975 on Aug 30, 2012 11:04:47 GMT -8
I'll be VERY surprised if the Big East TV contract is not at least on par with the new ACC TV contract.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 11:07:11 GMT -8
Would this include the Big East bball tournament? Getting that tournament would be huge for NBC as they are making a big attempt at competing with ESPN.
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Post by hbaztec on Aug 30, 2012 11:09:13 GMT -8
Would this include the Big East bball tournament? Getting that tournament would be huge for NBC as they are making a big attempt at competing with ESPN. Good call. Yeah, that is a nice piece of the puzzle.
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Post by therealeman on Aug 30, 2012 11:19:39 GMT -8
Would this include the Big East bball tournament? Getting that tournament would be huge for NBC as they are making a big attempt at competing with ESPN. I'm speculating here that if these numbers are anywhere near accurate, they woud include the BE bball tournament. Those numbers are too high, if you ask me, for it not to be included. Aresco has siad a number of times now that the deal would include all sports, men and women.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 11:20:40 GMT -8
Boy we need to get a Big East Western Division for MBB and grab that extra 5 million per year! Warning. Use caution in lurking on the BE board. Fans of UCF and USF and to some degree a couple other members of that conference are vehemently opposed to the BE West developing into an all-sports division. The way they diss everybody out west you'd think their school was effing Florida or FSU for crissakes. IF - big IF - the BE West would so evolve SDSU hoops could become a monster.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 11:27:00 GMT -8
Boy we need to get a Big East Western Division for MBB and grab that extra 5 million per year! Warning. Use caution in lurking on the BE board. Fans of UCF and USF and to some degree a couple other members of that conference are vehemently opposed to the BE West developing into an all-sports division. The way they diss everybody out west you'd think their school was effing Florida or FSU for crissakes. IF - big IF - the BE West would so evolve SDSU hoops could become a monster. There's no way that would ever happen. The only schools that are football only are SDSU, Boise, and Navy (starting in 2015). No way that Houston, Memphis, SMU, would want to move over to a western division. My hope is that over time the Big East can make the cut and stay afloat in a new type of D1 football. Then we can place all of our other sports back in a MW like conference with UNLV, New Mexico, Nevada, etc.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 30, 2012 11:36:01 GMT -8
The MWC contract pays $1.5 million for all sports. 12M for the entire conference - so in most years we got 1.2M. Still too early to see where this is going to fall - but 11M would be great - it would be enough to not only survive, but actually compete with top 30ish (assuming our current school funding doesnt get cut) Aye, there's the rub, isn't it? The purloining state government may find a way to abscond with some of this booty. Sorry, not very good pirate-speak.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 30, 2012 11:41:32 GMT -8
Warning. Use caution in lurking on the BE board. Fans of UCF and USF and to some degree a couple other members of that conference are vehemently opposed to the BE West developing into an all-sports division. The way they diss everybody out west you'd think their school was effing Florida or FSU for crissakes. IF - big IF - the BE West would so evolve SDSU hoops could become a monster. There's no way that would ever happen. The only schools that are football only are SDSU, Boise, and Navy (starting in 2015). No way that Houston, Memphis, SMU, would want to move over to a western division. My hope is that over time the Big East can make the cut and stay afloat in a new type of D1 football. Then we can place all of our other sports back in a MW like conference with UNLV, New Mexico, Nevada, etc. I'm sure it's just me, but if you're talking about football, WHY would you EVER want to be in a conference with those schools? At least in the way they are structured now.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 30, 2012 11:42:38 GMT -8
I forgot about that. Good thing for Fresno and UNLV fans they're so opposed to splitting up their sports or they might be jealous of us. They still would not be getting any love here like Boise is. I found this banner in Mission Beach a couple days ago.
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Post by jdgaucho on Aug 30, 2012 11:44:29 GMT -8
Warning. Use caution in lurking on the BE board. Fans of UCF and USF and to some degree a couple other members of that conference are vehemently opposed to the BE West developing into an all-sports division. The way they diss everybody out west you'd think their school was effing Florida or FSU for crissakes. IF - big IF - the BE West would so evolve SDSU hoops could become a monster. There's no way that would ever happen. The only schools that are football only are SDSU, Boise, and Navy (starting in 2015). No way that Houston, Memphis, SMU, would want to move over to a western division. My hope is that over time the Big East can make the cut and stay afloat in a new type of D1 football. Then we can place all of our other sports back in a MW like conference with UNLV, New Mexico, Nevada, etc. As long as the one you call "Hair" remains commissioner, that ain't happening.
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Post by aztecsman16 on Aug 30, 2012 11:46:18 GMT -8
I forgot about that. Good thing for Fresno and UNLV fans they're so opposed to splitting up their sports or they might be jealous of us. They still would not be getting any love here like Boise is. I found this banner in Mission Beach a couple days ago. yuck...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 11:48:10 GMT -8
I forgot about that. Good thing for Fresno and UNLV fans they're so opposed to splitting up their sports or they might be jealous of us. They still would not be getting any love here like Boise is. I found this banner in Mission Beach a couple days ago. You can see banners like this everywhere in PB for different teams it really upsets me. PB Bar and Grill is a University of Washington Hub. The Boardwalk on Mission has a huge Kansas JayHawk gathering. The dumpsters behind my place is a MECCA of UNLV graduates to forage for food and sharp objects. There aren't enough SDSU hubs in the beach areas.
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Post by aztech on Aug 30, 2012 11:49:34 GMT -8
Boy we need to get a Big East Western Division for MBB and grab that extra 5 million per year! Warning. Use caution in lurking on the BE board. Fans of UCF and USF and to some degree a couple other members of that conference are vehemently opposed to the BE West developing into an all-sports division. The way they diss everybody out west you'd think their school was effing Florida or FSU for crissakes. IF - big IF - the BE West would so evolve SDSU hoops could become a monster. Yeah, I get those bad vibes from those 2 Florida schools as well. Fortunately we'll eventually get to play them to shut their overrated mouths. As expected, they have that Southeastern foolishness meaning no matter how many times you kick their ass they'll always excuse it and say they're better. Our MBB program will be under the gun to show what we can do. We have to go deep in the NCAA this season. I really think a future all-sports BE-West divison will hinge on it. Plus they'll need our late night live programing. We could set the Western foundation with our potential.
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Post by aztech on Aug 30, 2012 11:55:27 GMT -8
Warning. Use caution in lurking on the BE board. Fans of UCF and USF and to some degree a couple other members of that conference are vehemently opposed to the BE West developing into an all-sports division. The way they diss everybody out west you'd think their school was effing Florida or FSU for crissakes. IF - big IF - the BE West would so evolve SDSU hoops could become a monster. There's no way that would ever happen. The only schools that are football only are SDSU, Boise, and Navy (starting in 2015). No way that Houston, Memphis, SMU, would want to move over to a western division. My hope is that over time the Big East can make the cut and stay afloat in a new type of D1 football. Then we can place all of our other sports back in a MW like conference with UNLV, New Mexico, Nevada, etc. Excuse me, but would they have a choice if it's for the good of the conference? Their alternative is to go back to the C-DOA if they refuse.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 11:55:52 GMT -8
Blue Moon, huh?
That's the kind of swill you think is tasty when you're used to buying your booze from state liquor stores.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2012 11:58:12 GMT -8
There's no way that would ever happen. The only schools that are football only are SDSU, Boise, and Navy (starting in 2015). No way that Houston, Memphis, SMU, would want to move over to a western division. My hope is that over time the Big East can make the cut and stay afloat in a new type of D1 football. Then we can place all of our other sports back in a MW like conference with UNLV, New Mexico, Nevada, etc. Excuse me, but would they have a choice if it's for the good of the conference? Their alternative is to go back to the C-DOA if they refuse. The Houston and Memphis fans on the BE board have zero interest in being in the same division with the eastern schools. That doesn't mean an all-sports West division will happen, only that an aversion to being partnered with SDSU isn't the reason it won't.
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Aug 30, 2012 12:05:02 GMT -8
SDSU's consultant estimated somewhere around $6.4M per year for us and although it could end up being a little higher, I don't see us getting more than $8M annually. Was that estimate given before or after Aresco and Bevilacqua were hired? Good point. I think the cache of the new commissioner and marketing consulting will help drive those original estimates upward.
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Post by Trujillos & Beer on Aug 30, 2012 12:19:53 GMT -8
I'll be VERY surprised if the Big East TV contract is not at least on par with the new ACC TV contract. Why? They have more marketable brands. If the BL gets dollar value equal to the ACC, the ACC will seek a new contract. It's as simple as that. More marketable brands in football? Maybe by a touch. I'd argue Boise is now a bigger brand than Florida State or any other school in that conference. Overall you're probably right but I don't think it's a huge gap. Big East has schools in bigger markets which may result in more viewers, the only thing that really matters. ACC is locked in and they don't really have any options for a new contract. I suppose they could seek it but nothing would happen. Agreed. ..Sent from my Samsung GS3..
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Post by monty on Aug 30, 2012 12:20:52 GMT -8
I'll be VERY surprised if the Big East TV contract is not at least on par with the new ACC TV contract. Why? They have more marketable brands. If the BL gets dollar value equal to the ACC, the ACC will seek a new contract. It's as simple as that. In any case, 11M is more than I thought and it would be awesome if it comes to pass. The numbers themselves are not all that important. What really matters is how much better off we are relative to where we were after the dust has settled. I have no doubt that we will be better off relative to the "big boys" than we ever could have been in the MWC/WAC. They can seek whatever the hell they want - they sold everything they have to ESPN, they did what ESPN wanted and raided the Big East and what did that get them - 2 extra years on the contract and an increase in money 7 years from now. And, the big east is going to get close to or get what the ACC got because: we are the last to go, they can schedule us all day long (and they can thank us and Boyze for that), and NBC/Comcast wants desperately into the game.
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Post by aztech on Aug 30, 2012 12:27:45 GMT -8
I'll be VERY surprised if the Big East TV contract is not at least on par with the new ACC TV contract. Why? They have more marketable brands. If the BL gets dollar value equal to the ACC, the ACC will seek a new contract. It's as simple as that.In any case, 11M is more than I thought and it would be awesome if it comes to pass. The numbers themselves are not all that important. What really matters is how much better off we are relative to where we were after the dust has settled. I have no doubt that we will be better off relative to the "big boys" than we ever could have been in the MWC/WAC. The ACC is locked into their ESPN contract for many years to come, so they're screwed. They're in the same boat as the MWC is with their TV contract.
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