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Post by jonnyaztec94 on Jun 11, 2011 19:49:45 GMT -8
The Padres have scored 3 runs or less at home 29 times Only 6 times have they scored 5 runs or more. The home schedule is almost half over - 40 games when this was posted. They need to trade for line drive hitters and guys with real speed (i.e. a threat to run every pitch).
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 12, 2011 16:35:18 GMT -8
The front office has had several years since the opening of Petco to taylor an offense to the stadium. They have failed, miserably. This offense has been really bad for three straight seasons. Clean house in the front office, Jed Hoyer and co. are a joke.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 12, 2011 17:17:26 GMT -8
Jed has been here a year and a half. The problem is psychological with the players. They just cannot get over the fact the park is not a bandbox and the ball doesn't fly out regularly. Cleaning out the front office would accomplish nothing.
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Post by aztecron on Jun 12, 2011 17:41:43 GMT -8
The front office has had several years since the opening of Petco to taylor an offense to the stadium. They have failed, miserably. This offense has been really bad for three straight seasons. Clean house in the front office, Jed Hoyer and co. are a joke. Jed Hoyer hasn't had near enough time on site to put his stamp on the Padres whether at the big league level or the minor league level, yet. This ain't fantasy baseball. I'm optimistic with the new front office, myself. The last two drafts appear to be pretty good, and,the player development staff, for once in a long ass moon, looks like they're actually developing the players at the minor league level.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Jun 13, 2011 8:16:07 GMT -8
[billmode] Well the Padres are hitting .421 on Tuesdays and Thursdays when the temperature is over 67 degrees and have outscored opponents 56-31 in games when a fan runs on the field. Headly averages 2.14 RBI when he eats Cinnamon Toast Crunch for breakfast. Cantu is hitting .323 since he changed his facial hair.
The Padres are fine. [\billmode]
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 13, 2011 9:50:03 GMT -8
Losing these 3 games to the nationals this weekend has been very disappointing. Just when it looked like they were starting to hit better at home and Rizzo and Hundley are now playing, the Padres offense goes quiet. At least they are now on the road. I told my season ticket holding partner that we could take our season ticket money and spend it on a few trips to see the Padres on the road and end up with more excitement in 9 games than what we get in all 41 games at home.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 13, 2011 9:57:09 GMT -8
The front office has had several years since the opening of Petco to taylor an offense to the stadium. They have failed, miserably. This offense has been really bad for three straight seasons. Clean house in the front office, Jed Hoyer and co. are a joke. 1. The front office has been in place for 2 years. 2. Last year the Padres only scored 28 runs less at Petco Park than on the road and outscored their opponents by 60 at home. 3. This offense isn't "really bad" right now. They are just really bad at home. On the road they are 3rd out of 16 teams in runs per game. Only 2 runs behind 2nd. They will move into 2nd with 16 runs over the next 3 games in Colorado. 4. The only two Padres hitters that have a higher OPS at home than on the road are Brad Hawpe and Orlando Hudson. So maybe the Padres management did manage to bring in players who are "petco type" hitters.
Player | R-H BA | H-R SLG | R-H OPS | Cameron Maybin | .112 | .246 | .344 | Chris Denorfia | .065 | .260 | .307 | Chase Headley | .064 | .114 | .151 | Ryan Ludwick | .081 | .095 | .132 | Jason Bartlett | .079 | .094 | .118 | Nick Hundley | .061 | .048 | .064 | Will Venable | .043 | .075 | .055 | Alberto Gonzalez | .029 | .001 | .052 | Brad Hawpe | .056 | -.044 | -.014 | Orlando Hudson | -.107 | -.195 | -.141 |
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 15, 2011 17:09:31 GMT -8
Just look at that lineup above. Would ANY team in baseball trade their lineup for ours? Your perception is clouded by Petco Park's effect.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 15, 2011 18:01:39 GMT -8
Your perception is clouded by Petco Park's effect. That may be. Still, my question stands. How about any of the 22 teams that score less runs per game on the road than the Padres? Of course, the Padres lineup is just getting back to being healthy. Once Hudson gets back we will have our expected lineup available for the first time this year. Seattle: On the road they have played 4 more games and scored 7 less runs while using a DH. Oakland: On the road they have played 9 more games and scored 5 less runs while using a DH. Phillies: On the road they have played 1 more game and scored 20 less runs. I could go on.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 16, 2011 8:16:17 GMT -8
How about any of the 22 teams that score less runs per game on the road than the Padres? Of course, the Padres lineup is just getting back to being healthy. Once Hudson gets back we will have our expected lineup available for the first time this year. Seattle: On the road they have played 4 more games and scored 7 less runs while using a DH. Oakland: On the road they have played 9 more games and scored 5 less runs while using a DH. Phillies: On the road they have played 1 more game and scored 20 less runs. I could go on. Don't bother. If you're implying that you'd prefer the Padres' starting eight over any of the teams you mentioned above, then there's not much need for elaboration. Any? How about Oakland. Maybin over Coco Crisp - YES Ludwick over Josh Willingham - YES Hawpe/Dornifia over David DeJesus - YES Rizzo/Hawpe over Daric Barton - YES Hudson over Mark Ellis - YES Bartlett over Cliff Pennington - YES Headley over Kevin Kouzmanoff - YES Hundley over Kurt Suzuki - YES Not only would I take our lineup, I would take every single position of the Padres over Oakland.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 17, 2011 8:03:03 GMT -8
Great job. Now let's do it with Pha or Seattle. Or, if you like, any other team in baseball. ;D You said "any of the teams you mentioned above". Oakland was one of those teams. Why don't you do Seattle? I will get you started Seattle 3B Chone Figgins: .198 .248 .266 .514 Here is the link. Use the pulldown to select position.
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Post by aztecbruce on Jun 17, 2011 13:30:46 GMT -8
That may be. Still, my question stands. How about any of the 22 teams that score less runs per game on the road than the Padres? Of course, the Padres lineup is just getting back to being healthy. Once Hudson gets back we will have our expected lineup available for the first time this year. Seattle: On the road they have played 4 more games and scored 7 less runs while using a DH. Oakland: On the road they have played 9 more games and scored 5 less runs while using a DH. Phillies: On the road they have played 1 more game and scored 20 less runs. I could go on. While that may be factual it's silly at best. Have all the teams faced the same teams with the same weather conditions with the same # of day or night games vs the same pitchers and same defensive lineups? You're comparing apples with figs or prunes
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 17, 2011 15:06:27 GMT -8
How about any of the 22 teams that score less runs per game on the road than the Padres? Of course, the Padres lineup is just getting back to being healthy. Once Hudson gets back we will have our expected lineup available for the first time this year. Seattle: On the road they have played 4 more games and scored 7 less runs while using a DH. Oakland: On the road they have played 9 more games and scored 5 less runs while using a DH. Phillies: On the road they have played 1 more game and scored 20 less runs. I could go on. While that may be factual it's silly at best. Have all the teams faced the same teams with the same weather conditions with the same # of day or night games vs the same pitchers and same defensive lineups? You're comparing apples with figs or prunes But that is all we get. So you think there is no valid statistical method to show that Adrian Gonzalez is hitting better than Brad Hawpe?
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Post by aztecbruce on Jun 17, 2011 15:17:28 GMT -8
While that may be factual it's silly at best. Have all the teams faced the same teams with the same weather conditions with the same # of day or night games vs the same pitchers and same defensive lineups? You're comparing apples with figs or prunes But that is all we get. So you think there is no valid statistical method to show that Adrian Gonzalez is hitting better than Brad Hawpe? Stay on the subject Bill. So, you admit your stats prove nothing on this subject.
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Post by aztecbruce on Jun 17, 2011 15:22:01 GMT -8
While that may be factual it's silly at best. Have all the teams faced the same teams with the same weather conditions with the same # of day or night games vs the same pitchers and same defensive lineups? You're comparing apples with figs or prunes But that is all we get. So you think there is no valid statistical method to show that Adrian Gonzalez is hitting better than Brad Hawpe? You don't need stats for that. Just open your eyes and watch them.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 17, 2011 16:32:15 GMT -8
Losing these 3 games to the nationals this weekend has been very disappointing. Just when it looked like they were starting to hit better at home and Rizzo and Hundley are now playing, the Padres offense goes quiet. At least they are now on the road. I told my season ticket holding partner that we could take our season ticket money and spend it on a few trips to see the Padres on the road and end up with more excitement in 9 games than what we get in all 41 games at home. I hope you make the road trips because a) you're a huge fan and b) you're a good guy who deserves a fun outing like this. However, do not expect the Padres' road record to hold. Enjoy the cities and ballparks you visit (and buy the tix from Bruce). Or the Padres could start winning at home. They will finally have their ideal lineup when Hudson gets back. They are scoring a bunch more on the road this year and a bunch less at home. Chances are one will change, significantly. We will see which one it is.
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Post by aztecbruce on Jun 17, 2011 21:32:05 GMT -8
I hope you make the road trips because a) you're a huge fan and b) you're a good guy who deserves a fun outing like this. However, do not expect the Padres' road record to hold. Enjoy the cities and ballparks you visit (and buy the tix from Bruce). Or the Padres could start winning at home. They will finally have their ideal lineup when Hudson gets back. They are scoring a bunch more on the road this year and a bunch less at home. Chances are one will change, significantly. We will see which one it is. Maybe neither will change significantly but one or the other or both may change some.
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Post by jonnyaztec94 on Jun 18, 2011 17:43:02 GMT -8
Sad. Shutout number 12.
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Post by aztecbruce on Jun 19, 2011 12:22:29 GMT -8
Bill ignored these "stats" as they don't back up whatever he's trying to prove. Also more ammunition for JYP "Padres hitters lead the major leagues with 583 strikeouts, or 36 more than their nearest rival for the dubious title. They have struck out 39 times in the first four games of this road trip." -- 6/17 UT
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 20, 2011 9:52:03 GMT -8
Bill ignored these "stats" as they don't back up whatever he's trying to prove. Also more ammunition for JYP "Padres hitters lead the major leagues with 583 strikeouts, or 36 more than their nearest rival for the dubious title. They have struck out 39 times in the first four games of this road trip." -- 6/17 UT That's crazy. If I was going to ignore shutouts I would have written, "Ignoring shutouts, the Padres have scored almost 5 (4.93) runs a game on the road. That is by far the best in the NL, ignoring the St Louis Cardinals". I threw in ignoring St Louis as a bonus. Strikeouts? When a player strikes out is more important than how many. With no one on base or with two outs a strikeout is exactly like any other out. If a player strikes out instead of say, hitting a Sac Fly, than that hurts. But your stats (UT) show no case of that being the case.
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