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Post by steveaztec on Jun 2, 2010 10:17:18 GMT -8
Chris Ello just said on 1360 that Boise State will be invited to the MWC by Monday afternoon.
He says it is a done deal (if Boise State accepts of course).
Thoughts?
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Post by aztecx on Jun 2, 2010 10:20:08 GMT -8
If this is true, then it is a good thing only if it means inclusion in the MWC.
If Boise is included what are the odds that a team in the mwc goes undefeated? I am afraid that the teams in the mwc will just beat each other up and therefore none will be bcs eligible.
Unless this will get the mwc automatic bcs status, i cannot see how this is a good thing for the conference.
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Post by laaztec on Jun 2, 2010 10:24:38 GMT -8
Did he say how high up his source is?
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Post by sancarlosaztec on Jun 2, 2010 10:25:52 GMT -8
My thought is that Chris must believe it is so. I, however, will believe it when I see it.
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Post by aztecfred on Jun 2, 2010 10:26:33 GMT -8
HOW OFTEN HAS HE BEEN RIGHT WITH HIS INFO?
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Post by steveaztec on Jun 2, 2010 10:27:07 GMT -8
Did he say how high up his source is? If he did, I missed it.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 2, 2010 10:27:12 GMT -8
He probably saw it on espn and reported it not exactly someone I trust. But I do believe with the colorado paper and all the talk they are comming
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Post by hoobs on Jun 2, 2010 10:32:08 GMT -8
If this is true, then it is a good thing only if it means inclusion in the MWC. If Boise is included what are the odds that a team in the mwc goes undefeated? I am afraid that the teams in the mwc will just beat each other up and therefore none will be bcs eligible. Unless this will get the mwc automatic bcs status, i cannot see how this is a good thing for the conference. Boise will still play in the WAC in 2010. The review period ends after either the 2011 or 2012 season. *If* the BCS remains intact, then the biggest hurdle for MWC gaining AQ status is the OOC performance of the bottom half. A couple teams need to step it up and start going 3-1... or a few teams need to improve from 1-3 to 2-2. That would be the final clincher for the formula to work out in our favor. However, the bigger deal is in the PR battle. For all the conference talk/rumor/speculation about the Big10(1)/14/16 this and Pac 10/12 that... at the end of the day... the only conference to actually make a move this summer... the MWC, bringing in the media darlings... Boise St. Will bring GREAT press for the conference. And... every time Boise plays on national TV this year, they're going to have to talk about them joining the MWC next season...
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Post by monty on Jun 2, 2010 10:53:05 GMT -8
The source everyone is using here is the denver post which said as soon as monday, I'm too lazy to get the link, it's over on the MWC board.
Monday there are no NBA finals, it is the traditional off-day in MLB, nothing major in pro football, French open will be over, World cup won't have started yet
Monday is a huge PR day for the MWC to capitalize on - they will be the only news in town. If they announce it, the should announce it relatively early, like Noon Eastern, and let it dominate sports news the rest of the day.
Boise will join in a year so they get one more year (one in which they will likely start-off ranked in the top 5) to beat the crap out of the WAC. Then, if SDSU and New MExico get better as well as UNLV and CSU, the MWC might make it through the front door into the BCS for the final two years '12 and '13 of the BCS contract, and there are so many moving parts that would have to all snap into place for the BCS to not already be extended by then.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 2, 2010 11:43:23 GMT -8
Glad to hear it, in the meantime, the Aztecs need to fix their own program, that means 7 wins minimum next year. If the MWC is making a push for BCS inclusion, the Aztecs need to be viewed as an asset not a liability.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 2, 2010 11:59:55 GMT -8
Boise to the MWC is good for football and bad for basketball. Having Bosie State for Football makes BCSing a 1 loss MWC team a very doable proposition. A 2 loss team could still have a chance. We need to insure that the top 5 all play each other every year. That would keep their SOS high enough to keep the BCS hope alive. It would be tragic is we ended the year with two 10-2 teams that didn't play each other. Both thereby missing the cut. If they played each other, one of the two would still be 10-2 but have a much better computer profile and would therefore make the grade.
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Post by standiego on Jun 2, 2010 12:03:47 GMT -8
if they add Boise - would every team play them in 2011, and drop a pre season non conference game ?
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 2, 2010 12:15:26 GMT -8
if they add Boise - would every team play them in 2011, and drop a pre season non conference game ? That or skip a team every year. Conferences have done it both ways. We should skip a team. Having 4 OOC games is important for our SOS. Having 75 of our games in conference reduces our overall winning percentage and therefore our SOS.
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Post by hoobs on Jun 2, 2010 12:28:10 GMT -8
I would hazard a guess that in a 10-team conference, in the last year or two before the "BCA AQ formula" review period ends... the MWC might find a way to "randomly" make sure that some of the strongest schools get to 'skip' each other, making it possible to maximize chances for undefeated/1-loss teams... or at least that's what I would do.
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Post by pokinsky on Jun 2, 2010 12:31:14 GMT -8
if they add Boise - would every team play them in 2011, and drop a pre season non conference game ? That or skip a team every year. Conferences have done it both ways. We should skip a team. Having 4 OOC games is important for our SOS. Having 75 of our games in conference reduces our overall winning percentage and therefore our SOS. But it only reduces it because the opponents are currently weak. If Boise St remains a perennial BCS contender it should help...no? Also, the basketball team is currently pretty bad, but they are actually better than Air Force right now and probably equal to programs like TCU or Wyoming. If they join, and the MW becomes a BCS school then all of the programs will see a boost in recruiting for football and basketball.
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Post by 83aztec on Jun 2, 2010 12:56:52 GMT -8
Not a big fan of Boise. I guess this is just a move to get the MWC in the BCS. If that does not work then it is a poor move to bring them in. I guess it is worth the gamble.
As far as Ello goes. He is mostly just a parrot.
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Post by Aztec For Life on Jun 2, 2010 13:07:57 GMT -8
I'm pumped to add Boise! I hope it happens. So much of the nation knows about Boise State. I even have some of my friends that are Pac10 and Big East honks saying that if this happens, we could be the 3rd or 4th best football conference.
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Post by Fred Noonan on Jun 2, 2010 13:36:38 GMT -8
We need to wait for the other shoe to drop before determining the significance of adding Boise. You get one result if it's Boise, TCU, BYU, and Utah. You get yet another result if it's Boise, SDSU, et. al. Since the MWC could lose anywhere from 0 to 3 of its best teams we cannot conclude much from adding Boise. Speculate, yes. The Fred Noonan School of Navigation.
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Post by PQ Aztec on Jun 2, 2010 13:45:41 GMT -8
I am all in favor in adding Boise State. I really think it makes it darn near impossible to keep the MWC out of the BCS.
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Post by Pssst13 on Jun 2, 2010 14:00:12 GMT -8
Will this mean we'll have enough men's soccer team to have our own conference soccer sport? Does it mean good bye P10, at least, for our men's soccer team.
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