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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 12:40:21 GMT -8
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Post by germanaztec on Jun 8, 2010 12:52:29 GMT -8
Probably like Boise to MWC ...  |
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Post by Fred Noonan on Jun 8, 2010 13:03:49 GMT -8
What official, full on scoop is this? Number 326? Oh, or was the scoop about Utah being invited to the Pac 10 per the guy who knew the secretary to the AD at Utah number 326 and this is 327? The whole upheaval of college football is starting to look like the Energizer Bunny as the leaks, scoops, opinions, and guesses just keep on going. The Fred Noonan School of Navigation.  ps--not raining on parade's here, just enjoying all the parades. Usually this is such a dead time of the year. Now it's enlivened by all kinds of out of the woodworks stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 13:08:10 GMT -8
Probably like Boise to MWC ... Touche. |
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Jun 8, 2010 13:35:00 GMT -8
Well Boise would have been in the MWC if it wasn't for the atom bomb being dropped over the weekend. It was pretty much a done deal, but now it's a completely different landscape so it'd be stupid to not reanalyze things.
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Post by kozy on Jun 8, 2010 14:07:47 GMT -8
The big ugly Helen Thomas in this scrum is Texas. Quite honestly I want to run from them not to them. The SEC dominates and dictates college football. Notice no SEC is going anywhere.
Let take the Big 11 and add Texas, Nebraska and Missouri to get the Big 14. They get the Big Ten TV network and a conference to challenge the SEC.
What happens next is not pretty, like making sausage. The PAC10 with their shining white horse, SC on probation till Harry Porter appears in a movie with Lindsay Lohen and no TV network slips into nowhere land.
The MWC with their eyes to the road and not their noses up you know where like the PAC then go shopping; Colorado, Texas Tech, Tex AM, Baylor, Boise, Fresno and UNR. They should also consider dropping AFA, Wyoming and CSU and grab the Kansas schools.
Think big and be big. Great time to be MWC.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 8, 2010 14:10:39 GMT -8
This would be bad news
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 14:15:19 GMT -8
Not in my view. Care to explain yourself? As to what kozy said, as I've told a couple Utah guys on the MWC board, I think they are mistakenly looking at going to the Pac through rose colored glasses. Right now, Utah has as much clout in their conference as anybody. In the Pac, however, Utah is going to be of no more significance than ASU or Oregon. Meaning taking a back seat to USC, UCLA and Washington and probably also Cal and Stanford. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 14:28:27 GMT -8
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Post by kozy on Jun 8, 2010 14:51:36 GMT -8
ND has an over inflated view of themselves.
It's all coming down to money. Now why does ND get a full BCS share and USC, Texas, Tenn, Ala etc don't. Watch them be told either you join the Bid11 or play Troy State. We don't need you.
You will get 5 16 team conferences and one 16 of the left overs. ND will the left over.
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Post by aztecwin on Jun 8, 2010 15:34:18 GMT -8
Whatever happens in the Pac 10 will be the first domino to fall in my best guess. Is everyone waiting for someone else to make a move?
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Post by monty on Jun 8, 2010 15:42:33 GMT -8
Whatever happens in the Pac 10 will be the first domino to fall in my best guess. Is everyone waiting for someone else to make a move? I think so on both counts - THe pac will likely be the first big player to do anything (if anything happens), it is up to all the other chicken players to do something. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 15:56:13 GMT -8
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Pac and the Big Ten both make a move on the same day. They've been partners for a century and their likely moves are going to essentially destroy the Big 12 entirely and the Big East as a football conference so why not share the fun?
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Post by monty on Jun 8, 2010 16:03:05 GMT -8
It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Pac and the Big Ten both make a move on the same day. They've been partners for a century and their likely moves are going to essentially destroy the Big 12 entirely and the Big East as a football conference so why not share the fun? I don't think they want to be perceived directly as colluding or working together, it works better in the long run anyways if they have any perception of being separate - the big 10 got the ball rolling, the pac10 put on the hangman's mask, so I'm sure they've been working in some type of stereo, but, I think it'll come out, if it does,the order in a short time frame: UCB, Big10 takes Nebraska and maybe Mizzou then Texas can also come out right for them in that they didn't break up the big12, they just took the 5 spots when they became available. It becomes joint, but not joint, Texas destroyed the league but didn't, the Big10 created the whole situation but didn't. And, perhaps in 15-20 years, that is how it will be remembered by different parties: no one really pulled the trigger, but someone else is to blame, the pac 16 and Big10(4) soon to be the 10(6) once pitt and rutgers come in phase 2, and Texas just reacted. It is like everyone putting their toes on the baseline, but the coaches have already decided how they are going to pick the teams, and the Kareem on the court already decided who the first coach was going to pick, but it will have the illusion that neither of the 3 sides got together |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2010 16:05:58 GMT -8
Well, those of us who have followed this copiously will know the identity of the two principle villains: Jim Delaney and DeLoss Dodds. College sports have known no greater slimeballs.
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Post by monty on Jun 8, 2010 16:11:56 GMT -8
Well, those of us who have followed this copiously will know the identity of the two principle villains: Jim Delaney and DeLoss Dodds. College sports have known no greater slimeballs. Yes, and Scott is the greatest sports exec going - if I'm an owner of a pro franchise I'm on the horn with my colleagues trying to see how we can get rid of the dinosaurs that are Selig, Stern and Bettman - this dude got women to receive the same purse as men at majors (even though the ratings and attendance aren't the same and competitively they play best of 3 and not best of 5), major increases in tv deals in the WTA and now might have pulled of a 4-6 fold increase on pac 10 money while likely making stanford happier about their new 'division' (which I think we'll find out is an autonomous conference in essence). No one's stock in the sports world is to the point of the pac 10 commish should he pull this off. |
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Post by choop on Jun 8, 2010 16:12:56 GMT -8
Yup. If this turns out to be true, and the Big 10 adds 3 teams, the PAC 10 will add 4 to 6 teams and the race will be on. I still think the Big 10 moves into the northeast market for TV ratings and recruiting purposes, taking Syracuse and Rutgers. They'll have their 16 team super-conference, and with the teams they wanted. Then the ACC comes sniping at the remainder of the Big East. Scratch one conference.
Then the sights turn west to the PAC-10. I agree with another poster I saw, who said the Big-16, PAC-16, SEC-16 and ACC-16 are the only major conferences standing once its all done in a year or two. The MWC, WAC and CSU will be the "other" conferences. Picking up Kansas, K-State, and Baylor will make us a real good basketball conference,
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Post by laaztec on Jun 8, 2010 16:16:57 GMT -8
Picking up Kansas, K-State, and Baylor will make us a real good basketball conference, I think you also try for Houston and Boise to balance out Football and get another TV market. |
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Post by monty on Jun 8, 2010 16:35:10 GMT -8
Picking up Kansas, K-State, and Baylor will make us a real good basketball conference, I think you also try for Houston and Boise to balance out Football and get another TV market. Houston is super-boise, they aren't going anywhere, and how sure they will stay where they are? If you can go to 14, you make everyone compete for the last 2 spots unless you get a slam dunk |
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Post by choop on Jun 8, 2010 16:41:24 GMT -8
Pardon me. That was meant to be a sarcastic comment. I'm a little bitter over losing AQ status after we just about got there.
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