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Post by AztecTom on May 31, 2010 21:07:17 GMT -8
I thought you said your last post was your last on this subject? Are you confused just like your posts? I answer all your issues myself mate. Do yourself a favor and myself a favor and just follow the Aussies. I have to give you a serious WTF! It was your blatant ignorance on what it takes to field a top team that made me respond. If you truly can't see the correlation there it will be my last post on the subject. I tried to offer insightful info on subject not just talk about our top pros know (who won't offer anything to future generations unless they go into coaching or finance academies). No blatant ignorance here pal. I understand the game very well. Played the game most of my life and have followed it for almost my whole life. I like your insightful info, just don't agree with you on this matter.
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Post by aztecinoz on May 31, 2010 21:07:44 GMT -8
BTW don't get me wrong. Its your opinion and you're entitled to it.
So enjoy the world cup
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Post by AztecTom on May 31, 2010 21:10:29 GMT -8
BTW don't get me wrong. Its your opinion and you're entitled to it. So enjoy the world cup Thank you, I will enjoy the World Cup and you do the same. Can't wait for June 12th. Go USA!!!
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Post by hoobs on May 31, 2010 22:24:18 GMT -8
(Ahhhh, another Tom vs ________ feud. FYI Oz, you should know this is pretty normal for Tom, if he disagrees with you he'll just keep coming after you like a rabid hyena.)
Great comments Oz. Couldn't agree more about the lack of soccer infrastructure being a major lynchpin preventing US Soccer from becoming a truly elite-level team. The current system just can't breed the upper-echelon class, nor especially the depth of other programs like Brazil, England, Spain, etc.
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Post by AztecTom on May 31, 2010 22:45:33 GMT -8
(Ahhhh, another Tom vs ________ feud. FYI Oz, you should know this is pretty normal for Tom, if he disagrees with you he'll just keep coming after you like a rabid hyena.) Great comments Oz. Couldn't agree more about the lack of soccer infrastructure being a major lynchpin preventing US Soccer from becoming a truly elite-level team. The current system just can't breed the upper-echelon class, nor especially the depth of other programs like Brazil, England, Spain, etc. Sorry you feel that way hoobs. Just giving my opinion like he is.
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Post by aztecinoz on Jun 1, 2010 2:46:17 GMT -8
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Post by monty on Jun 1, 2010 6:52:46 GMT -8
Our players playing in Europe absolutely have an effect on where we will be in 20 years. Kids look up to them and want to be like them, plus they continue to develop and get better and the U.S. gets better and climbs the rankings and the influences the kids of the future. So you are wrong again on that front. Yes, we will be playing Brazil here in the States. I hope we bring in our 1st team players for that game. If the coach isn't Bradley, I hope it's Klinsmann. This will be my last post on the subject because you obviously don't see the correlation between developing a good team and having the correct infrastructure in place to support that team. Let's say those kids who want to be like Demps and Howard are 10 right now. They go to their parents and want to play soccer and become great, where to do they go? An MLS academy? Sure, if you live in one of the cities with an MLS team..but wait...they don't support U-12 teams yet. So maybe a good youth club team. OK, but what if you can't afford the pay to play scheme that most good club teams are (or maybe you just don't live close enough to one). What next? You can't just hope that you are a natural and haveyour parents send out a youtube video and in the hopes that a top pro club sees the video and signs you. So where I am going with this? We don't have enough quality youth coaches, youth academies and just plain exposure yet. Very good points. Also it was mentioned earlier in this thread that MLS needs to spend more on developing talent. I, myself, think they need to continue to gradually increase what they are doing - the best thing that MLS has done is with the deep pockets of AEG is keep the thing afloat for the past decade or so by not becoming what I read the old NASL was like where it was just aging bloated ex-stars like Pele and Beckenbauer. MLS has made some major strides with new stadiums and remaining afloat, but massive expansion could sink the boat at anytime. Spending a bunch of money might just implode the entire league, so hopefully they will avoid the old ex-stars and continue to utilize home-grown talent. The best players will need to continue to play in europe, but they need better training and support when they are younger so they don't fail like Donovan did early or sit on the bench of a team about to be relegated like Joze did. In short, it and American Soccer is a long-time project and I don't know if it will ever be top 5 in the world when you having countries with pretty sizable populations that mark soccer as their number 1 sport (meaning best atheltes go into it and most money flows into it). Realistically, where is soccer from a spectator position in the country? Well behind the nfl, college football, college basketball, nba, mlb, NASCAR, and still quite a bit behind the NHL. It really is only the past dozen years that the US is even considered a lock to qualify for the world cup, our record is absurdly bad and we've only done anything at all once and got a pretty good draw that time getting Mexico in the round of 16.
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 1, 2010 10:39:31 GMT -8
That is a good article aztecinoz. I like Torres, he has a bright future ahead of him. He played great in the second half against Turkey. He was a spark plug out on the pitch.
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 5, 2010 7:17:43 GMT -8
Just got done watching a nice 3-1 win for the U.S. over Australia. Great warm up game before playing England next Saturday. It should have have been 4,5 even 6 -1. Findley got past the goalkeeper and missed a wide open goal and then missed another easy shot on goal. Buddle with 2 goals and Gomez with the other.
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Post by aztecinoz on Jun 6, 2010 5:15:18 GMT -8
I hope Findley doesn't start. Buddle and Gomez should be the options to pair with Jozy. Findley should only see the field if we need someone to run around aimlessly...really fast. The team looked good. I am cautiously optimistic about our chances this WC
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 11, 2010 7:33:27 GMT -8
SA up 1-0 on mexico with 20 minutes to go. Come on SA and hang on!
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Post by AztecTom on Jun 11, 2010 7:42:04 GMT -8
mexico just tied it up with 12 minutes to go. Awful defending by SA.
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Post by aztecron on Jun 12, 2010 11:23:49 GMT -8
Soccer novice here.
Was the Dempsey goal just a plain and simple mishap by Green or did Dempsey do something to the ball influencing the goal by the way he kicked it?
Either way I'm happy, and trying to learn the nuances of soccer, go USA.
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Post by Spud on Jun 12, 2010 14:55:50 GMT -8
Soccer novice here. Was the Dempsey goal just a plain and simple mishap by Green or did Dempsey do something to the ball influencing the goal by the way he kicked it? Either way I'm happy, and trying to learn the nuances of soccer, go USA. Simple mishap. Maybe had a little spin...couldn't see his eyes, so not sure if he took them off the ball as it came to him.
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Post by jhonka34 on Jun 12, 2010 18:26:55 GMT -8
Soccer novice here. Was the Dempsey goal just a plain and simple mishap by Green or did Dempsey do something to the ball influencing the goal by the way he kicked it? Either way I'm happy, and trying to learn the nuances of soccer, go USA. Simple mishap. Maybe had a little spin...couldn't see his eyes, so not sure if he took them off the ball as it came to him. I'm not a goalkeeping expert, but I would expect that his hands should have been a bit farther apart and turned in to funnel the ball more than just block it.
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Post by Spud on Jun 12, 2010 23:18:17 GMT -8
Simple mishap. Maybe had a little spin...couldn't see his eyes, so not sure if he took them off the ball as it came to him. I'm not a goalkeeping expert, but I would expect that his hands should have been a bit farther apart and turned in to funnel the ball more than just block it. My guess is that he just didn't think it was going to be so lively.
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Post by aztecinoz on Jun 14, 2010 1:55:01 GMT -8
Simple mishap. Maybe had a little spin...couldn't see his eyes, so not sure if he took them off the ball as it came to him. I'm not a goalkeeping expert, but I would expect that his hands should have been a bit farther apart and turned in to funnel the ball more than just block it. From the looks of it, Green didn't put his whole body behind the ball. He sort of went into the ball at an angle, which caused the ball to scoot away from him. That isn't uncommon but since his body was turned to the side the ball went in. It's sort of like fielding in baseball, they always tell you to square up to the ball and to try and not field it sideways. Either way, I'm glad he did.
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Post by aztecinoz on Jun 14, 2010 11:21:22 GMT -8
Japan looked good and Paraguay has an early lead. Interesting.
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Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 14, 2010 21:51:24 GMT -8
the most under looked team plays tomorrow
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Post by aztecinoz on Jun 14, 2010 22:20:15 GMT -8
Chile isn't overlooked if you paid attention to qualifying
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