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Post by aztecmusician on Nov 19, 2024 23:21:14 GMT -8
Unbelievable, more proof the lame duck Democrats are power mad warmongers. Putin is now pissed off.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Nov 20, 2024 8:50:13 GMT -8
The Democrats are dragging the American People into the precipice of Hell!
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 20, 2024 9:30:49 GMT -8
Yeah, heaven forbid we should allow a victim of aggression to adequately defend themselves.
How horrible.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 20, 2024 9:45:53 GMT -8
Unbelievable, more proof the lame duck Democrats are power mad warmongers. Putin is now pissed off. Uh, simple answer here: Maybe Putin should get the f x x x out of Ukraine. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Nov 20, 2024 19:17:32 GMT -8
Unbelievable, more proof the lame duck Democrats are power mad warmongers. Putin is now pissed off. Uh, simple answer here: Maybe Putin should get the f x x x out of Ukraine. Like when the USSR wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Cuba? Like NATO wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Ukraine? Just listen to Biden's war monger NATO speech. With the outcome of the US Election, I think we now know who the dumb voters are that want never ending wars. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 20, 2024 21:05:04 GMT -8
Yeah, heaven forbid we should allow a victim of aggression to adequately defend themselves. How horrible. The timing of it is rather interesting though. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 20, 2024 21:40:36 GMT -8
Yeah, heaven forbid we should allow a victim of aggression to adequately defend themselves. How horrible. The timing of it is rather interesting though. Come on, you know why Biden did it - to give Ukraine more leverage once Trump takes over and cuts off all aid to them. Make it as painful as possible for Russia so that Ukraine has to give up less territory when Trump sells them out to his buddy, Putin. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 20, 2024 22:05:59 GMT -8
Uh, simple answer here: Maybe Putin should get the f x x x out of Ukraine. Like when the USSR wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Cuba? Like NATO wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Ukraine? Just listen to Biden's war monger NATO speech. With the outcome of the US Election, I think we now know who the dumb voters are that want never ending wars. Can we get other irrelevant examples? Russia formally invaded Ukraine. They can leave the same way they came in. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 21, 2024 0:55:31 GMT -8
Like when the USSR wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Cuba? Like NATO wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Ukraine? Just listen to Biden's war monger NATO speech. With the outcome of the US Election, I think we now know who the dumb voters are that want never ending wars. Can we get other irrelevant examples? Russia formally invaded Ukraine. They can leave the same way they came in. He makes an interesting point though about Russia being angered by the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO, which provoked them to invade. That being said, they already wanted Ukraine anyways, they annexed Crimea before that. I think Putin ultimately wants to retake as much Soviet Union territory as possible. He wants a buffer wall of separation protecting the major Russian cities. He has a right to be angry about the idea of Ukraine joining NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Ukraine is far from the Atlantic. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Nov 21, 2024 7:40:53 GMT -8
Like when the USSR wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Cuba? Like NATO wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Ukraine? Just listen to Biden's war monger NATO speech. With the outcome of the US Election, I think we now know who the dumb voters are that want never ending wars. What is it about the left that seems to joyfully want to continually taunt someone who we know is dangerous? It is complete madness. Crazy Joe is intentionally sabotaging America. He is a national security threat.
Ukraine is not a democracy, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a dictator. Democracies do not ban opposition parties. Democracies do not ban elections. Democracies do not censor the media. We should not be funding what is essentially a coup. The US has cut off aid to other dictatorship countries resulting in thousands of deaths like Niger one of the worlds most impoverished nations.
There are no representatives of the people in Ukraine who make joint decisions on behalf of and in the interests of the people. There is zero reason the US should be funding a dictator. Russia may not have invaded Ukraine if Kammie would have kept her yap shut. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 21, 2024 9:22:24 GMT -8
Can we get other irrelevant examples? Russia formally invaded Ukraine. They can leave the same way they came in. He makes an interesting point though about Russia being angered by the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO, which provoked them to invade. That being said, they already wanted Ukraine anyways, they annexed Crimea before that. I think Putin ultimately wants to retake as much Soviet Union territory as possible. He wants a buffer wall of separation protecting the major Russian cities. He has a right to be angry about the idea of Ukraine joining NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Ukraine is far from the Atlantic. That's not interesting at all. I don't care what a murderous piece of garbage wants or is offended by. I can't believe you took the time to type that last paragraph out. Latvia is 200 kilometers further from the Atlantic than Ukraine. Should Putin invade them and commit genocide, too? I never want to hear another complaint about Israel again. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 21, 2024 9:25:15 GMT -8
Like when the USSR wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Cuba? Like NATO wanting to put a base with troops, and missiles in Ukraine? Just listen to Biden's war monger NATO speech. With the outcome of the US Election, I think we now know who the dumb voters are that want never ending wars. What is it about the left that seems to joyfully want to continually taunt someone who we know is dangerous? It is complete madness. Crazy Joe is intentionally sabotaging America. He is a national security threat. Ukraine is not a democracy, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a dictator. Democracies do not ban opposition parties. Democracies do not ban elections. Democracies do not censor the media. We should not be funding what is essentially a coup. The US has cut off aid to other dictatorship countries resulting in thousands of deaths like Niger one of the worlds most impoverished nations.
There are no representatives of the people in Ukraine who make joint decisions on behalf of and in the interests of the people. There is zero reason the US should be funding a dictator. Russia may not have invaded Ukraine if Kammie would have kept her yap shut. It's not a coup in the slightest. Read the Ukrainaian Constitution. If you side on the side of the actual dictator, your priorities are showing me who you are. Russia "invaded" in 2014, when Kamala Harris was Attorney General in the state of California. You really don't get it. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 21, 2024 10:17:09 GMT -8
He makes an interesting point though about Russia being angered by the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO, which provoked them to invade. That being said, they already wanted Ukraine anyways, they annexed Crimea before that. I think Putin ultimately wants to retake as much Soviet Union territory as possible. He wants a buffer wall of separation protecting the major Russian cities. He has a right to be angry about the idea of Ukraine joining NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Ukraine is far from the Atlantic. That's not interesting at all. I don't care what a murderous piece of garbage wants or is offended by. I can't believe you took the time to type that last paragraph out. Latvia is 200 kilometers further from the Atlantic than Ukraine. Should Putin invade them and commit genocide, too? I never want to hear another complaint about Israel again. I'm sure he would love to do that if he could, I'm not condoning him. I'm saying that it was a Flashpoint like the Cuban Missile Crisis. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 21, 2024 10:32:33 GMT -8
That's not interesting at all. I don't care what a murderous piece of garbage wants or is offended by. I can't believe you took the time to type that last paragraph out. Latvia is 200 kilometers further from the Atlantic than Ukraine. Should Putin invade them and commit genocide, too? I never want to hear another complaint about Israel again. I'm sure he would love to do that if he could, I'm not condoning him. I'm saying that it was a Flashpoint like the Cuban Missile Crisis. Not even close. Do you remember what happened after the Cuban Missile Crisis? Oh. Nothing. There was no invasion of a sovereign nation. No murder of innocent civilians. No indiscriminate bombings of domestic targets. There was a systematic de-escalation of tensions and a renewed emphasis (for the first time in modern history) on direct communication between the Soviet Union and the United States. All you're doing is making excuses for Putin here - It's gross. He had no business annexing Crimea, he has no business in a sovereign country. Ukraine didn't ask to be invaded, they weren't an aggressor. They have every right in the universe to join NATO, which, despite its name, has nothing to do with the Atlantic Ocean in its current conception. The only reason that angers a dictator like Putin is the fact he can't pick on a sole country, he would face the consequences of the entire alliance and he's nothing but a tyrannical bully. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 21, 2024 11:15:53 GMT -8
I'm sure he would love to do that if he could, I'm not condoning him. I'm saying that it was a Flashpoint like the Cuban Missile Crisis. They have every right in the universe to join NATO, which, despite its name, has nothing to do with the Atlantic Ocean in its current conception. The only reason that angers a dictator like Putin is the fact he can't pick on a sole country, he would face the consequences of the entire alliance and he's nothing but a tyrannical bully. Fair point, but it's only a hop and skip away from us extending a NATO invite to Taiwan, or India. How do you think China or Russia would receive that? How would North Korea feel about a NATO invitation to South Korea? |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 21, 2024 11:43:27 GMT -8
They have every right in the universe to join NATO, which, despite its name, has nothing to do with the Atlantic Ocean in its current conception. The only reason that angers a dictator like Putin is the fact he can't pick on a sole country, he would face the consequences of the entire alliance and he's nothing but a tyrannical bully. Fair point, but it's only a hop and skip away from us extending a NATO invite to Taiwan, or India. How do you think China or Russia would receive that? How would North Korea feel about a NATO invitation to South Korea? I personally don't give a $#!+. NATO has global partners all over the world, there are only two non-European countries in NATO, so the hypothetical is useless. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Nov 21, 2024 16:31:24 GMT -8
What is it about the left that seems to joyfully want to continually taunt someone who we know is dangerous? It is complete madness. Crazy Joe is intentionally sabotaging America. He is a national security threat. Ukraine is not a democracy, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a dictator. Democracies do not ban opposition parties. Democracies do not ban elections. Democracies do not censor the media. We should not be funding what is essentially a coup. The US has cut off aid to other dictatorship countries resulting in thousands of deaths like Niger one of the worlds most impoverished nations.
There are no representatives of the people in Ukraine who make joint decisions on behalf of and in the interests of the people. There is zero reason the US should be funding a dictator. Russia may not have invaded Ukraine if Kammie would have kept her yap shut. It's not a coup in the slightest. Read the Ukrainaian Constitution. If you side on the side of the actual dictator, your priorities are showing me who you are. Russia "invaded" in 2014, when Kamala Harris was Attorney General in the state of California. You really don't get it. Sorry, there is a lack of understanding. I assumed there was basic knowledge of the region and the numerous conflicts. I will give credit where credit is due. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. If the half-wit Kammie had kept her yap shut the current conflict may have never begun. Try to follow along!!! |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 21, 2024 17:20:27 GMT -8
It's not a coup in the slightest. Read the Ukrainaian Constitution. If you side on the side of the actual dictator, your priorities are showing me who you are. Russia "invaded" in 2014, when Kamala Harris was Attorney General in the state of California. You really don't get it. Sorry, there is a lack of understanding. I assumed there was basic knowledge of the region and the numerous conflicts. I will give credit where credit is due. Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. If the half-wit Kammie had kept her yap shut the current conflict may have never begun. Try to follow along!!! What the hell does Kamala Harris have to do with Russia invading Ukraine in February of 2022? You're the one without the knowledge here, it's one fallacy after another. You called it a coup - The Ukrainian constitution specifically states that elections cannot be held while the country is under martial law, which, yep, still under martial law. The crux of the issue is simple: Russia withdraws from Ukranian sovereign territory. You're on the side of the actual dictator, which means you're in the wrong. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 22, 2024 15:01:36 GMT -8
Isn't it amazing how the (former) party of Reagan now sides with Russia and one of the most evil, brutal, tyrannical dictators of the last several centuries?
The Republicans support Putin more than they do fellow Americans. And they support Putin more than a sovereign democratic nation (Ukraine) that he's invaded for no other reason than he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union! That's insane. But that's where we are.
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Post by aztecbrothers on Nov 22, 2024 17:52:32 GMT -8
Isn't it amazing how the (former) party of Reagan now sides with Russia and one of the most evil, brutal, tyrannical dictators of the last several centuries? The Republicans support Putin more than they do fellow Americans. And they support Putin more than a sovereign democratic nation (Ukraine) that he's invaded for no other reason than he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union! That's insane. But that's where we are. The USSR fell along with the Berlin Wall. What is your point with Regan? Wanting to expand NATO is a violation of the treaty and can be viewed as an act of aggression against Russia since Ukraine was supposed to remain neutral. The loop hole might be that the NATO Treaty was with the USSR and modified in 1990 with conditions of military forces in Eastern Germany. If the goal was peace and humanity, NATO should not have expanded beyond the original 7 members after the fall of the USSR. As with any conflict, it usually comes down to the money. The whole thing might be to protect the "Big Man's" cash flow from Ukrainian Natural Gas Resources. Think Burisma and the Big Man's representative Hunter Biden. |
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