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Post by perch on Oct 14, 2024 14:56:34 GMT -8
I wondered why the run has not been working so I looked at one play in the WY game. We tried the off tackle play a number of times and each time Cooper was thrown for a loss. On the play I watched there was a nice hole initially. But Cooper was way to slow in getting to it and the RT (74) could not hold the block and the defender went around him and hit Cooper for a loss. It seemed to me that all the running plays are way too slow in getting started. They all seem more like a delayed draw. I don't think this play was necessarily Coopers fault but the was the play is designed. The handoff should be much quicker so the back can hit the hole fast. Such that even if the RT can not hold the block it is too late for the defender and the back is past him. I guess the way we run the run plays would work IF,IF we had a really good OL. Just my opinion!
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Post by aztecx on Oct 15, 2024 11:40:14 GMT -8
I wondered why the run has not been working so I looked at one play in the WY game. We tried the off tackle play a number of times and each time Cooper was thrown for a loss. On the play I watched there was a nice hole initially. But Cooper was way to slow in getting to it and the RT (74) could not hold the block and the defender went around him and hit Cooper for a loss. It seemed to me that all the running plays are way too slow in getting started. They all seem more like a delayed draw. I don't think this play was necessarily Coopers fault but the was the play is designed. The handoff should be much quicker so the back can hit the hole fast. Such that even if the RT can not hold the block it is too late for the defender and the back is past him. I guess the way we run the run plays would work IF,IF we had a really good OL. Just my opinion! There is nothing wrong with the plays we run. Many, Many college teams use the same scheme. Cooper is a good back. He runs hard, protects the ball and seems very competitive. The OL was a question mark from the beginning of the season. With the injuries we have now it is making things even more challenging. The OL have not had much time to work together in the new scheme. And they have struggled because of it. The OL just needs to get better. |
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Post by Old School on Oct 15, 2024 14:37:04 GMT -8
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Post by Gundo on Oct 15, 2024 14:59:29 GMT -8
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Post by Old School on Oct 16, 2024 13:44:58 GMT -8
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Post by LostAztec on Oct 17, 2024 5:50:53 GMT -8
Run game ?
Is that what you call giving the ball to your smallest player and letting him run into a brick wall ?
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Post by McQuervo on Oct 17, 2024 6:18:27 GMT -8
We have 4 quality RB's. Why do we only use one?
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Post by aztecfred on Oct 17, 2024 7:00:47 GMT -8
Lewis keeps referring to Christon being ready soon? Ready to do what? Is he gonna play him? Is he gonna run him up the middle too? Isn't this the same thing Rocky(last year or so) n Hoke did? Running undersized backs, on delayed draws, up the middle behind questionable OL's? If he does actually use Christon?
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Post by E31-Aztec on Oct 17, 2024 9:05:55 GMT -8
I wondered why the run has not been working so I looked at one play in the WY game. We tried the off tackle play a number of times and each time Cooper was thrown for a loss. On the play I watched there was a nice hole initially. But Cooper was way to slow in getting to it and the RT (74) could not hold the block and the defender went around him and hit Cooper for a loss. It seemed to me that all the running plays are way too slow in getting started. They all seem more like a delayed draw. I don't think this play was necessarily Coopers fault but the was the play is designed. The handoff should be much quicker so the back can hit the hole fast. Such that even if the RT can not hold the block it is too late for the defender and the back is past him. I guess the way we run the run plays would work IF,IF we had a really good OL. Just my opinion! This is a bit of the new age veer/spread inside zone where the mesh point is held just a beat longer for the QB to account for the DE/scaping LB to crash. Although I would say, O'Neil is probably told to not take big hits since he tweaked his knee. You can see an example of it here: x.com/Mark_Dhooge/status/1336688134889877505 |
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Post by jcljorgenson on Oct 17, 2024 10:39:51 GMT -8
We have 4 quality RB's. Why do we only use one? Evidently "Running Back University" only has one recruit worthy of seeing the field this year. From my post in the last game thread: Cooper is leading the country in rushing attempts per game (25.2) but is only ranked #100 in yards per carry (at 4.44). Half of the players behind him on the list are QBs that take losses on sacks (and none of them are close to having his number of carries). www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/907If you back out his longest run from each game, he has 492 yards on 145 attempts, which means he is averaging 3.4 yards per carry 96% of the time (6 games, so 145 out of 151 carries this season). Wouldn't we be better off having a RB that has a more consistent average per carry versus 1 breakaway each game (if we can call it that)? We need to move the chains, right? Yes, I realize our O-line isn't the greatest with creating holes, so wouldn't a more powerful back be a better option? In other words, someone that can break tackles? Based on what I have seen the first six games, I'm not sure if Cooper is that guy (and breaking tackles was also a weakness for Christon). |
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Post by Old School on Oct 17, 2024 11:43:55 GMT -8
Cooper is Lewis's guy because they have history together, everybody else in the RB room don't have any history with Lewis. With history, there's trust. I speculate Lewis is probably giving the backups time to figure out their exit plan from the program while he brings in his own guys via portal/recruiting.
/shrugs
Oldie Out
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Post by standiego on Oct 17, 2024 11:53:13 GMT -8
Lewis probably thinks he owes it to his former RB who transferred to SDSU and is trying to reach 5000 yards - while the BSU runner could be in the running for the Heisman or First team RB
As mentioned this might work well the Lewis and his transfer it certainly does not benefit the team if they are trying to keep any of the other current RB's
Not the best situation for multiple players
In addition every other team will game plan to stop the run and force SDSU into third and long
goes back to the thing some of us have mentioned unless you have decent OL play - the skill players are going to have a difficult time
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 17, 2024 12:17:52 GMT -8
Lewis needs to let O'Neil use his arm to set up the run game.
When he did that in the 4th quarter last game, the offense actually looked good.
When he plays Daddy Ball with Cooper, the offense is horrendous
It's really terrible whenever Cooper runs for a decent gain on first down because the next three plays are going to be Cooper being run into a brick wall for a total of 2 yards
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Post by jcljorgenson on Oct 17, 2024 12:23:00 GMT -8
IMO, this season at SDSU has completely killed Cooper's chances of getting drafted to the NFL. His stock has dropped dramatically and there is no doubt Coach Lewis' excessive usage has contributed to that. NFL scouts don't care about how many carries he has had, it's all about productivity and positively impacting the game.
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Post by McQuervo on Oct 17, 2024 20:03:20 GMT -8
We have a QB. We have 4-5 quality RB's, why only use one?
So far, not impressed with our HC. DC, yes, HC no.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 17, 2024 20:14:17 GMT -8
Lewis needs to let O'Neil use his arm to set up the run game. When he did that in the 4th quarter last game, the offense actually looked good. When he plays Daddy Ball with Cooper, the offense is horrendous It's really terrible whenever Cooper runs for a decent gain on first down because the next three plays are going to be Cooper being run into a brick wall for a total of 2 yards This is right on. Lewis needs to mix in the pass more like he did in the fourth quarter of last game. O'Neil has proven he can do it. Now, these next games coming up are going to be tough, so we should expect great results right away. He better platoon with Cooper in these upcoming tough games or we may lose Cooper. |
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Post by Old School on Oct 17, 2024 23:13:34 GMT -8
This weak O-line is weaker now, better get creative with the running game or rely on Dime's arm more often. This team is getting beat up, attrition due to injury is part of the game, quality depth will determine this team's fate until the end of the season.
Oldie Out
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Run game
Oct 18, 2024 19:10:17 GMT -8
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 18, 2024 19:10:17 GMT -8
Lewis needs to let O'Neil use his arm to set up the run game. When he did that in the 4th quarter last game, the offense actually looked good. When he plays Daddy Ball with Cooper, the offense is horrendous It's really terrible whenever Cooper runs for a decent gain on first down because the next three plays are going to be Cooper being run into a brick wall for a total of 2 yards This is right on. Lewis needs to mix in the pass more like he did in the fourth quarter of last game. O'Neil has proven he can do it. Now, these next games coming up are going to be tough, so we should expect great results right away. He better platoon with Cooper in these upcoming tough games or we may lose Cooper. 💯 Also, if you're insistent on running guys into brick walls, throw in Armstead & Sutton. Line two of them up at the same time. Sutton brings a quicker burst and Armstead is harder to bring down. Get the now healthy track guy in mismatches vs linebackers in the passing game. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 18, 2024 20:26:09 GMT -8
This is right on. Lewis needs to mix in the pass more like he did in the fourth quarter of last game. O'Neil has proven he can do it. Now, these next games coming up are going to be tough, so we should expect great results right away. He better platoon with Cooper in these upcoming tough games or we may lose Cooper. 💯 Also, if you're insistent on running guys into brick walls, throw in Armstead & Sutton. Line two of them up at the same time. Sutton brings a quicker burst and Armstead is harder to bring down. Get the now healthy track guy in mismatches vs linebackers in the passing game. Seems so obvious, doesn't it? |
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Run game
Oct 19, 2024 6:51:29 GMT -8
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Post by Boise Aztec on Oct 19, 2024 6:51:29 GMT -8
Ok… looks like you all got it figured out… cool
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