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Post by aztecpaulg on Sept 13, 2024 16:19:08 GMT -8
Link:https://tinyurl.com/yydreamj
Wanted to highlight a few more of the quotes from JD Wicker so I put together a ranking of who the Pac-12 should prioritize. Plus, I added a rediculous prediction of what's going to happen. Hope you enjoy it.
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Post by Gundo on Sept 13, 2024 16:39:52 GMT -8
Link:https://tinyurl.com/yydreamj Wanted to highlight a few more of the quotes from JD Wicker so I put together a ranking of who the Pac-12 should prioritize. Plus, I added a rediculous prediction of what's going to happen. Hope you enjoy it. Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." |
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Post by chris92065 on Sept 13, 2024 17:18:20 GMT -8
Link:https://tinyurl.com/yydreamj Wanted to highlight a few more of the quotes from JD Wicker so I put together a ranking of who the Pac-12 should prioritize. Plus, I added a rediculous prediction of what's going to happen. Hope you enjoy it. Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." No. No and hell no. Those schools are fine for ooc but not for conference membership of any kind. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 13, 2024 17:36:31 GMT -8
Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." No. No and hell no. Those schools are fine for ooc but not for conference membership of any kind. Agree. This move is about football we don’t need to get into silly basketball scenarios. There’s only one basketball only member that should be considered and that’s Gonzaga. |
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Post by aztecpaulg on Sept 13, 2024 17:48:25 GMT -8
Link:https://tinyurl.com/yydreamj Wanted to highlight a few more of the quotes from JD Wicker so I put together a ranking of who the Pac-12 should prioritize. Plus, I added a rediculous prediction of what's going to happen. Hope you enjoy it. Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." Athletic budgets, educational rankings, and geography are part of the equation. The other consideration is what happens if Gonzaga says "no." Lets say they are are nine football schools and need one more for basketball like Wicker suggested. Would a full share of the TV revenue for say Wyoming be better than a partial share for UCSD? |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 13, 2024 17:48:28 GMT -8
Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." No. No and hell no. Those schools are fine for ooc but not for conference membership of any kind. Settle down all, I was just asking Paul his thought process and why he selected the 3 schools as basketball only, and was waiting upon his response, you know ... curiosity. |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 13, 2024 17:51:56 GMT -8
Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." Athletic budgets, educational rankings, and geography are part of the equation. The other consideration is what happens if Gonzaga says "no." Would a full share of the TV revenue for say Wyoming be better than a partial share for UCSD? Honestly, we should all say "NO" to Wyo! Travel sucks, need to charter planes, and ride buses. The PAC should have schools with easy airport access, in or near major metropolitan areas. Easy for travel, lodging and access. That is key in this new world. Time and distance costs money, stress, anxiety for all. |
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Post by aztecpaulg on Sept 13, 2024 17:53:26 GMT -8
No. No and hell no. Those schools are fine for ooc but not for conference membership of any kind. Settle down all, I was just asking Paul his thought process and why he selected the 3 schools as basketball only, and was waiting upon his response, you know ... curiosity. Those school's athletic budgets are about the same as Wichita State and 5 million less than Gonzaga (if the available data is accurate) for what it's worth. |
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Sept 13, 2024 19:43:13 GMT -8
Looks like Paul Igor into
The edibles.
Gonzaga is the only one worth doing a Bball deal and the B12 with a $39M payout could not make it work.
UNT and UTSA and all the other Tejas schools are glorified high schools.
The pool is UNLV, Tulane, Memphis, and USF.
RICE will promise to spend x amount of dollars but they haven’t to date and they have seen the Tulane return to know what is possible and still nothing.!
The ding in on UNLV is the following, losing games and no one caring is bad but winning games and no one caring is worse.
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Post by Den60 on Sept 13, 2024 20:24:25 GMT -8
No. No and hell no. Those schools are fine for ooc but not for conference membership of any kind. Agree. This move is about football we don’t need to get into silly basketball scenarios. There’s only one basketball only member that should be considered and that’s Gonzaga. Gonzaga brings a very high value, high profile BB team to the conference. Yeah, this is all about FB but Gonzaga will help the exposure of the conference during BB season - and it was elevate those programs willing to invest in BB as well. |
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Post by fisherville on Sept 13, 2024 20:37:14 GMT -8
Big west basketball only additions? No thanks. The only basketball only additions that would intrigue me is Gonzaga/St Marys.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 13, 2024 21:02:09 GMT -8
Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." Athletic budgets, educational rankings, and geography are part of the equation. The other consideration is what happens if Gonzaga says "no." Lets say they are are nine football schools and need one more for basketball like Wicker suggested. Would a full share of the TV revenue for say Wyoming be better than a partial share for UCSD? Wyoming? Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! Never. |
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Post by AzTex on Sept 13, 2024 21:33:25 GMT -8
Paul can you shed some light on non-football, basketball partners? What pick Long Beach St., UC Riverside and UC San Diego over the best teams in the Big West: UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine and now UC Davis (who have all made the NCAA tournament & traditionally have a high NET, RPI and Kenpom ranking? I don't get the logic? "Gonzaga would be an ideal non-football addition. For all the hand-wringing about the Mountain West’s new 20-game schedule, it was interesting that Wicker said an 18-game conference schedule would be his choice for basketball. Aside from the Zags, other schools that should interest the Pac-12 as basketball-only additions include Long Beach State, UC Riverside, and UC San Diego. The latter schools already have athletic budgets around $25 million. According to USA Today, this amount is at the level spent by lower-budgeted FBS schools." Athletic budgets, educational rankings, and geography are part of the equation. The other consideration is what happens if Gonzaga says "no." Lets say they are are nine football schools and need one more for basketball like Wicker suggested. Would a full share of the TV revenue for say Wyoming be better than a partial share for UCSD? NO, NO, NO. We should never, ever play any sport AT Wyoming. Subjecting our athletes to the 7,220 foot altitude should never be allowed. Travel, especially in the Winter can be brutal and dangerous. I remember the reports of one harrowing bus trip over the mountains during a snow storm several years ago. If Wyoming wants to come to San Diego and play then that might be fine. |
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Post by Frantic on Sept 13, 2024 21:49:59 GMT -8
Slim Pickens for new Pac members.
Let's be honest about where SDSU is going. It's still the MWC. Remember no major conference wants Oregon St. or Wash. St.
The article mentions UT-San Antonio as a possible Pac addition. Watch the Texas v. UTSA game this weekend and think about where things stand in the scheme of things. The current spread is Texas -35.
By the way, according to Forbes, SDSU will be the highest rated academic institution in the new Pac, And in addition SDSU may receive R-1 status next year, boosting its status even more.
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Post by dlangford9 on Sept 14, 2024 11:50:25 GMT -8
My hope…..
Florida St and Clemson leave the ACC for Big 10 or 12
Cal, Stanford and SMU leave ACC to Pac 12
Memphis and UNLV into Pac 12
Gonzaga and St. Mary’s to Pac 12 (no football)
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Post by standiego on Sept 14, 2024 11:56:51 GMT -8
exit fees are key for numerous schools
think the Zags and St Mary's would be decent addition for all the sports except Football - Soccer - baseball - Volleyball ....
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Post by montezumaduck on Sept 14, 2024 13:25:07 GMT -8
My hope….. Florida St and Clemson leave the ACC for Big 10 Cal, Stanford and SMU leave ACC to Pac 12 Memphis and UNLV into Pac 12 Gonzaga to Pac 12 (no football) B12 is likely to overpay for FSU and Clemson, rather than B1G. Otherwise, like the scenario (add Tulane to get back to 12 for football and get a conference championship game $$). You could add Zags and St Marys if you wanted to go to 14 for hoops. |
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Post by Gundo on Sept 14, 2024 15:16:33 GMT -8
My hope….. Florida St and Clemson leave the ACC for Big 10 Cal, Stanford and SMU leave ACC to Pac 12 Memphis and UNLV into Pac 12 Gonzaga to Pac 12 (no football) Memphis would be looking for an ACC invite in this scenario, even if it means a year or two more in the AAC. They are cash rich and funded by Fed Ex. Sports Media has them next up in the ACC. I would be surprised if Memphis would move to the PAC in 2026 committing in 2025, and then ESPN doesn't exercise the option, creating even more confusion on Grant of Rights. One key item to consider is that ESPN has a "unilateral" right to exercise a nine-year option to extend its media deal with the ACC from 2027 through 2036. Plus, ESPN is not guaranteed to pay ACC members revenue past 2027, but the ACC schools are locked into a grant of rights that runs through 2036. Both of these statements come from the Florida State legal team. ESPN will not make a move until the Clemson and FSU suits are settled. If ESPN wanted to help the ACC, they would pick up the option ASAP. But they are not doing that, ESPN holds the keys to the ACC. Remember the Big X's media partners are FOX & NBC. I don't see ESPN giving up those two schools to competing networks either. But, Florida State is 0-3, losing Memphis today, so perhaps Tallahassee & Clemson are not that valuable to drive viewers. |
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Post by aztecfred on Sept 14, 2024 16:58:17 GMT -8
Slim Pickens for new Pac members. Let's be honest about where SDSU is going. It's still the MWC. Remember no major conference wants Oregon St. or Wash. St. The article mentions UT-San Antonio as a possible Pac addition. Watch the Texas v. UTSA game this weekend and think about where things stand in the scheme of things. The current spread is Texas -35. By the way, according to Forbes, SDSU will be the highest rated academic institution in the new Pac, And in addition SDSU may receive R-1 status next year, boosting its status even more. What do you think the spread would be Tex sv SDSU? |
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Post by dlangford9 on Sept 14, 2024 23:49:43 GMT -8
Slim Pickens for new Pac members. Let's be honest about where SDSU is going. It's still the MWC. Remember no major conference wants Oregon St. or Wash. St. The article mentions UT-San Antonio as a possible Pac addition. Watch the Texas v. UTSA game this weekend and think about where things stand in the scheme of things. The current spread is Texas -35. By the way, according to Forbes, SDSU will be the highest rated academic institution in the new Pac, And in addition SDSU may receive R-1 status next year, boosting its status even more. What do you think the spread would be Tex sv SDSU? I don’t think Texas will score that much because our defense is respectable. But our offense is still a joke. 31-0 |
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