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Post by sdsuballer on Aug 25, 2024 9:49:20 GMT -8
I think UCONN will eventually be in the BIG12 minus there football team. Basketball the next round of TV contracts will have alot of value. This is why I feel Gonzaga should be let in the MTN West conference and let them have their NCAA credits they earn plus any extra money the bring in for basketball. This would allow them to continue to be good and they would not touch any football money or the other basketball credits.
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Post by AzTex on Aug 25, 2024 12:39:50 GMT -8
I think UCONN will eventually be in the BIG12 minus there football team. Basketball the next round of TV contracts will have alot of value. This is why I feel Gonzaga should be let in the MTN West conference and let them have their NCAA credits they earn plus any extra money the bring in for basketball. This would allow them to continue to be good and they would not touch any football money or the other basketball credits. Then what benefit would the rest of the conference get from having them as a member? It would just make it harder for anyone else to get the autobid. |
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Post by sdmotohead on Aug 25, 2024 12:46:51 GMT -8
This can't make OSU or WSU happy.
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Post by laaztec on Aug 25, 2024 13:13:59 GMT -8
This can't make OSU or WSU happy. They are G5 now but can’t come to grips with it. |
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Post by Den60 on Aug 25, 2024 13:57:02 GMT -8
This can't make OSU or WSU happy. SDSU would be chosen before OSU and Wazzu doesn't have a prayer. I think UNLV would be a coin flip between them and OSU. |
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Post by bigdude619 on Aug 26, 2024 17:05:27 GMT -8
According to Dennis Dodd(risky, I know 🤣) the vote count so far is 6 in favor of UConn, 2 against, and the rest is TBD. ESPN in favor of the move and FOX against it.
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Post by laaztec on Aug 26, 2024 17:28:05 GMT -8
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Post by sdmotohead on Aug 26, 2024 17:34:23 GMT -8
It's been written that if UConn does make it into the Big12 that Gonzaga won't be far behind.
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Aug 27, 2024 8:09:01 GMT -8
It's been written that if UConn does make it into the Big12 that Gonzaga won't be far behind. I think UCONN is a good add and they have consistently been a great program with multiple championships. They have history and a legacy. Now Gonzaga hasn't done much outside of Few. Before Few, I don't really remember them doing anything or being much, but I could be mistaken. Now, Few isn't going to be around forever so are they going to be able to maintain or fall off the map. I get they have been good for quite some time, but most of this is because of Few and he is getting a bit older. Case in point, Boise was the darling team for a number of years and their big bowl win. They were the talk of the town. However, now they are back to reality for the most part. No one really talks about them anymore and they couldn't maintain once their coach was gone. Don't get me wrong, they are still good and close to consistent Top 25. But no one is talking about them anymore for the most part. JMO |
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Post by 94sdsu on Aug 27, 2024 10:01:25 GMT -8
It's been written that if UConn does make it into the Big12 that Gonzaga won't be far behind. I think UCONN is a good add and they have consistently been a great program with multiple championships. They have history and a legacy. Now Gonzaga hasn't done much outside of Few. Before Few, I don't really remember them doing anything or being much, but I could be mistaken. Now, Few isn't going to be around forever so are they going to be able to maintain or fall off the map. I get they have been good for quite some time, but most of this is because of Few and he is getting a bit older. Case in point, Boise was the darling team for a number of years and their big bowl win. They were the talk of the town. However, now they are back to reality for the most part. No one really talks about them anymore and they couldn't maintain once their coach was gone. Don't get me wrong, they are still good and close to consistent Top 25. But no one is talking about them anymore for the most part. JMO In regards to no one talking about Boise, I'm not sure if you've read anything about the "potential G5 team" to make the playoff, but Boise is pretty much the consensus pick with possibly Liberty or Memphis sneaking in. Boise is definitely getting the most amount of press of any G5 team. Totally agree with you in regards to UConn and Gonzaga. |
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Post by myownwords on Aug 27, 2024 10:46:30 GMT -8
But with such celerity can life change, yes? Such as, the ineluctability of PAC CRAP taking SDSU a year ago? |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Aug 27, 2024 17:48:25 GMT -8
This can't make OSU or WSU happy. SDSU would be chosen before OSU and Wazzu doesn't have a prayer. I think UNLV would be a coin flip between them and OSU. Grammar needs help, and some clarity. Thanks. |
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Post by laaztec on Sept 5, 2024 8:12:56 GMT -8
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 5, 2024 9:38:29 GMT -8
It's been written that if UConn does make it into the Big12 that Gonzaga won't be far behind. I think UCONN is a good add and they have consistently been a great program with multiple championships. They have history and a legacy. Now Gonzaga hasn't done much outside of Few. Before Few, I don't really remember them doing anything or being much, but I could be mistaken. Now, Few isn't going to be around forever so are they going to be able to maintain or fall off the map. I get they have been good for quite some time, but most of this is because of Few and he is getting a bit older. Case in point, Boise was the darling team for a number of years and their big bowl win. They were the talk of the town. However, now they are back to reality for the most part. No one really talks about them anymore and they couldn't maintain once their coach was gone. Don't get me wrong, they are still good and close to consistent Top 25. But no one is talking about them anymore for the most part. JMO Dan Monson was 52-17 as Gonzaga head coach just before Mark Few, and he took them to the Elite 8 his last season before landing the Minnesota HC job. That put Gonzaga on the map nationally, then Few kept it going. Monson struggled a bit at Minnesota, then coached at Long Beach for quite a while. He was infamous for scheduling really tough OOC road games at LB and profiting monetarily from his scheduling tactics. |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 5, 2024 12:18:39 GMT -8
SDSU would be chosen before OSU and Wazzu doesn't have a prayer. I think UNLV would be a coin flip between them and OSU. Grammar needs help, and some clarity. Thanks. Not sure what is unclear. Neither OSU or Wazzu are football powerhouses despite a hundred year association with the PAC. Networks are driving the bus and, for them, it's about markets. San Diego is the biggest market in the west without a power conference affiliation. UNLV is next, though they have an NFL team and may get a NBA franchise which they would compete with for support. San Diego County has some 3.3M people while the stare of Oregon has 4.2M - and Ore. St. is little sister to Oregon there. The B12 didn't take them when they took the 4 corners and won't take them in the future. If the ACC wants to support Calford then they might come west and take 3 schools so there is a chance that Ore. St. makes that cut. SDSU earns more in revenue than Ore. St and significantly more than Wazzu. Both PAC schools will need to tighten their belts, however, as they transition from the P5 to the G5. Pullman WA is more like Idaho than it is the western part of the state and most of the state's population resides west of the Cascades. Also, it is much easier to get to SDSU and UNLV than it is for OSU and Wazzu. |
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Post by hoobs on Sept 5, 2024 13:26:01 GMT -8
Grammar needs help, and some clarity. Thanks. Not sure what is unclear. Neither OSU or Wazzu are football powerhouses despite a hundred year association with the PAC. Networks are driving the bus and, for them, it's about markets. San Diego is the biggest market in the west without a power conference affiliation. UNLV is next, though they have an NFL team and may get a NBA franchise which they would compete with for support. San Diego County has some 3.3M people while the stare of Oregon has 4.2M - and Ore. St. is little sister to Oregon there. The B12 didn't take them when they took the 4 corners and won't take them in the future. If the ACC wants to support Calford then they might come west and take 3 schools so there is a chance that Ore. St. makes that cut. SDSU earns more in revenue than Ore. St and significantly more than Wazzu. Both PAC schools will need to tighten their belts, however, as they transition for the P5 to the G5. Pullman WA is more like Idaho than it is the western part of the state and most of the state's population resides west of the Cascades. Also, it is much easier to get to SDSU and UNLV than it is for OSU and Wazzu. Yeah... I think there is zero question, for either the Big 12 or ACC... whomever needs/wants to expand out west... the order is pretty clear: 1. SDSU, 2a. Oregon State, 2b. UNLV, 4. Colorado State, 5. Washington State |
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Post by docmm on Sept 5, 2024 13:53:51 GMT -8
I can almost feel that P5 hook painfully sinking into my lip as I start to take the "we're-going-to-a-P5-conference" bait. I WON'T do it.
Unless of course it even looks like a possibility.
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Post by Cwag on Sept 5, 2024 15:07:36 GMT -8
I can almost feel that P5 hook painfully sinking into my lip as I start to take the "we're-going-to-a-P5-conference" bait. I WON'T do it. Unless of course it even looks like a possibility. Lucy with the football... |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 5, 2024 15:16:49 GMT -8
Not sure what is unclear. Neither OSU or Wazzu are football powerhouses despite a hundred year association with the PAC. Networks are driving the bus and, for them, it's about markets. San Diego is the biggest market in the west without a power conference affiliation. UNLV is next, though they have an NFL team and may get a NBA franchise which they would compete with for support. San Diego County has some 3.3M people while the stare of Oregon has 4.2M - and Ore. St. is little sister to Oregon there. The B12 didn't take them when they took the 4 corners and won't take them in the future. If the ACC wants to support Calford then they might come west and take 3 schools so there is a chance that Ore. St. makes that cut. SDSU earns more in revenue than Ore. St and significantly more than Wazzu. Both PAC schools will need to tighten their belts, however, as they transition for the P5 to the G5. Pullman WA is more like Idaho than it is the western part of the state and most of the state's population resides west of the Cascades. Also, it is much easier to get to SDSU and UNLV than it is for OSU and Wazzu. Yeah... I think there is zero question, for either the Big 12 or ACC... whomever needs/wants to expand out west... the order is pretty clear: 1. SDSU, 2a. Oregon State, 2b. UNLV, 4. Colorado State, 5. Washington State I doubt the B12 would take CSU as long as they have Colorado in the mix and 18 would be divisible into three divisions. I also think UNLV would be added before Ore. St. If the B12 were to take 2 teams out west for 18 then I see this: West Utah Zona ASU BYU SDSU UNLV Mid Baylor TCU Texas Tech Houston Oklahoma St Colorado (I see Deion wanting this division rather than the west) East Kansas Kansas St Iowa St Cincy West Virginia UCF If the B12 were to take 1 west and 1 east: West Utah Zona ASU Colorado BYU SDSU Mid Baylor TCU Texas Tech Houston Oklahoma St Kansas/K-St/Iowa St. Kansas might want to be in the mid division due to strength in BB and less travel, but would separate them from K-St East K-St. Iowa St. Cincy West Virginia UCF UConn or Memphis |
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Post by Den60 on Sept 5, 2024 15:19:23 GMT -8
I can almost feel that P5 hook painfully sinking into my lip as I start to take the "we're-going-to-a-P5-conference" bait. I WON'T do it. Unless of course it even looks like a possibility. Lucy with the football... What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger... Of course, I am choosing to play golf in the East County tomorrow where it will be somewhere between 100 and 110 tomorrow with no canopies. Fortunately, I have lost control of my driver so I should be playing in the trees a lot. |
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