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Post by sdmotohead on Aug 12, 2024 11:38:48 GMT -8
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Post by AzTex on Aug 12, 2024 11:51:52 GMT -8
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Post by laaztec on Aug 12, 2024 12:15:44 GMT -8
There’s going to be more teams on the outside of the Super League as there are in it.
I also think the Super League is going to kill the golden goose.
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Post by AzTex on Aug 12, 2024 12:51:28 GMT -8
There’s going to be more teams on the outside of the Super League as there are in it. I also think the Super League is going to kill the golden goose. With the current NIL and transfer rules the golden goose is already on life support, IMO. |
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Post by dadhammett on Aug 12, 2024 13:28:06 GMT -8
I can't take credit for this, but I read a very interesting article about the shift from "amateur college sport" to "semi-pro" NFL minor league football. The writer drew a parallel with Major League baseball and simply asked: How popular are A, AA, and AAA baseball franchises? His point was that by dramatically changing the culture of college athletics to simply a feeder system for the pros, would destroy the unique popularity of college football.
I do think this guy has a point, there is a delicate distinction between college and pro sports, if you succeed in closing the gap in talent levels (which would certainly happen if the top 1,000 to 2,000 athletes end up in the college "major leagues") you would have a whole new perception of this level of play, "who cares, these are just minor league pro football players" Networks and advertisers would soon follow and the whole thing comes crashing down. He could be wrong, but it seems like the professionalizing of college athletics will, at the very least, change the perception significantly, will this kill the golden goose? Who knows, but it will certainly reduce the opportunities for the "better than average" high school player to ever get a chance to play beyond the 12th grade. That alone makes it a very sad story.
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Post by gentlesaztec on Aug 12, 2024 14:00:29 GMT -8
How many billions are we going to pay the legal teams of women sports demanding equal shares. What happens to the same number of scholarships for men and women be equal. What benefits do men in other sports receive? Nothing but a big cluster.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 12, 2024 14:14:59 GMT -8
I always thought after the conference realignment started, it was going to eventually become 4, 16-team conferences. Maybe 64 teams was too many, but I think it's inevitable that the current 130 or so teams in FBS will be split into 2 divisions, and that we will be in the lower division, forever playing in the Mountain West, or something painfully similar. |
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Post by laaztec on Aug 12, 2024 14:36:00 GMT -8
I always thought after the conference realignment started, it was going to eventually become 4, 16-team conferences. Maybe 64 teams was too many, but I think it's inevitable that the current 130 or so teams in FBS will be split into 2 divisions, and that we will be in the lower division, forever playing in the Mountain West, or something painfully similar. They are going to be kicking teams out of the P4. Teams like Purdue, Iowa State, Vandy and Wake Forest. Football will break off to 2 super conferences and the rest of the sports will play in regional conferences. |
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Post by hoobs on Aug 12, 2024 15:53:25 GMT -8
I can't take credit for this, but I read a very interesting article about the shift from "amateur college sport" to "semi-pro" NFL minor league football. The writer drew a parallel with Major League baseball and simply asked: How popular are A, AA, and AAA baseball franchises? His point was that by dramatically changing the culture of college athletics to simply a feeder system for the pros, would destroy the unique popularity of college football. I do think this guy has a point, there is a delicate distinction between college and pro sports, if you succeed in closing the gap in talent levels (which would certainly happen if the top 1,000 to 2,000 athletes end up in the college "major leagues") you would have a whole new perception of this level of play, "who cares, these are just minor league pro football players" Networks and advertisers would soon follow and the whole thing comes crashing down. He could be wrong, but it seems like the professionalizing of college athletics will, at the very least, change the perception significantly, will this kill the golden goose? Who knows, but it will certainly reduce the opportunities for the "better than average" high school player to ever get a chance to play beyond the 12th grade. That alone makes it a very sad story. Yeah... I think you are spot on. |
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Post by aztecfred on Aug 12, 2024 16:00:36 GMT -8
When will kids go straight to NFL, skip college altogether? Or will they somehow, have to play a year like NBA, or 1-3 like baseball? Not sure how much $$$ is enough for some players?
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Post by 94sdsu on Aug 12, 2024 16:06:10 GMT -8
Our chance at the adult table was the PAC last year. If we'd have gotten in then, I'm thinking we could have built the team up to a point where we were in the top half of the conference pretty quickly. That would have in turn kept us playing with the adults when the super conference happens. It's too late now, even if we're given a Big 12 or ACC invite tomorrow, we're still a few years from joining and thus won't have time to get the team to the level it needs to be at by the time the super conference happens.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Aug 12, 2024 16:43:29 GMT -8
I can't take credit for this, but I read a very interesting article about the shift from "amateur college sport" to "semi-pro" NFL minor league football. The writer drew a parallel with Major League baseball and simply asked: How popular are A, AA, and AAA baseball franchises? His point was that by dramatically changing the culture of college athletics to simply a feeder system for the pros, would destroy the unique popularity of college football. I do think this guy has a point, there is a delicate distinction between college and pro sports, if you succeed in closing the gap in talent levels (which would certainly happen if the top 1,000 to 2,000 athletes end up in the college "major leagues") you would have a whole new perception of this level of play, "who cares, these are just minor league pro football players" Networks and advertisers would soon follow and the whole thing comes crashing down. He could be wrong, but it seems like the professionalizing of college athletics will, at the very least, change the perception significantly, will this kill the golden goose? Who knows, but it will certainly reduce the opportunities for the "better than average" high school player to ever get a chance to play beyond the 12th grade. That alone makes it a very sad story. The new league will be a "professional" league in all senses...it won't necessarily be a feeder to the NFL...but rather a competing Saturday league. Instead of Jerry Jones / Spanos Family / the City of Green Bay et al. owning a Saturday league team...Notre Dame / OSU / 'Bama et al. will own the Saturday league teams The players will no longer be students with eligibility issues...there will be long-term contracts just like the NFL and the players filling the Saturday league will come from the remaining college programs with some of those players entering (transferring to) the NFL and some players entering (transferring to) the Saturday league. Eventually the Saturday league and the NFL will compete for the same talent...with high school players first going to a G5 (or G8 by then) school...in the same way that professional baseball players move up through the farm system. The media would absolutely love this system pitting the Saturday league against the NFL...especially once the talent evens out in a few years...it won't kill the golden goose but make it fatter... |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Aug 12, 2024 16:56:38 GMT -8
I think they're underestimating fans' loyalty to their university. I'm certainly not loyal to the players. I love the players, but I'm loyal to my school's football team. By alienating all these schools they are alienating the fans, and the fans won't jump ship to one of the big schools.
I've been saying it for a while, but all this greed is just going to lead to less people caring and less money coming to them over time
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Post by Den60 on Aug 12, 2024 17:01:51 GMT -8
30-40 teams by 2028.
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Post by Den60 on Aug 12, 2024 17:03:10 GMT -8
I always thought after the conference realignment started, it was going to eventually become 4, 16-team conferences. Maybe 64 teams was too many, but I think it's inevitable that the current 130 or so teams in FBS will be split into 2 divisions, and that we will be in the lower division, forever playing in the Mountain West, or something painfully similar. They are going to be kicking teams out of the P4. Teams like Purdue, Iowa State, Vandy and Wake Forest. Football will break off to 2 super conferences and the rest of the sports will play in regional conferences. Yep. To be honest, I have a hard time thinking more than 30 will make the cut. |
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Post by Den60 on Aug 12, 2024 17:04:03 GMT -8
When will kids go straight to NFL, skip college altogether? Or will they somehow, have to play a year like NBA, or 1-3 like baseball? Not sure how much $$$ is enough for some players? Baseball takes players straight out of high school. |
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Post by Gundo on Aug 12, 2024 17:38:03 GMT -8
Right now there are 68 schools in Power Conferences. Big 10 = 18 ACC = 17 SEC = 16 Big 12 = 16 Notre Dame = 1Total= 68 |
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Post by laaztec on Aug 12, 2024 18:10:49 GMT -8
Our chance at the adult table was the PAC last year. If we'd have gotten in then, I'm thinking we could have built the team up to a point where we were in the top half of the conference pretty quickly. That would have in turn kept us playing with the adults when the super conference happens. It's too late now, even if we're given a Big 12 or ACC invite tomorrow, we're still a few years from joining and thus won't have time to get the team to the level it needs to be at by the time the super conference happens. SDSU will be with the teams from the Big 12 and ACC once the reshuffling happens. Most of those schools aren’t going to make it into a super conference. |
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Post by greysuit on Aug 13, 2024 9:04:35 GMT -8
There’s going to be more teams on the outside of the Super League as there are in it. I also think the Super League is going to kill the golden goose. Kill the golden goose except for the 40-50 teams that are in the B1G and SEC at the time. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Aug 13, 2024 9:16:11 GMT -8
The super league will only be sustainable if they are selective with who they take and that the schools can pay their athletes just below a professional salary.
I can’t see them taking more than 32 schools.
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