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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 12:58:03 GMT -8
Out of fairness is an interview with Tom Cotton and Kaitlyn Collins on CNN. People are saying he destroyed her much like Pete's interview on Fox, where they say he destroyed the Fox interviewer. youtu.be/pZnxF10jfyo?si=65c2QaaoHzmCGuSUWho are "people?" And creating false narratives isn't "destroying" anyone. What you're seeing is a coordinated set of attacks against Harris that are virtually the same - "She's hiding from the media." "She ducked a friendly interview." "Trump showed tremendous courage by taking on an adversarial interview." Buttigieg was able to rely on the administration's record with jobs, the overall economy, leadership, etc. Cotton and his gang of dogwhistlers aren't able to do that. They have to rely on Trump's "character" and "toughness" by painting a picture that the NABJ and assorted media are hostile. This isn't about "fairness." It never was. He said a whole lot more than what you've mentioned. I brought it up because I think they're both not fit to President. Two really bad choices, in different ways. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 13:15:54 GMT -8
Who are "people?" And creating false narratives isn't "destroying" anyone. What you're seeing is a coordinated set of attacks against Harris that are virtually the same - "She's hiding from the media." "She ducked a friendly interview." "Trump showed tremendous courage by taking on an adversarial interview." Buttigieg was able to rely on the administration's record with jobs, the overall economy, leadership, etc. Cotton and his gang of dogwhistlers aren't able to do that. They have to rely on Trump's "character" and "toughness" by painting a picture that the NABJ and assorted media are hostile. This isn't about "fairness." It never was. He said a whole lot more than what you've mentioned. I brought it up because I think they're both not fit to President. Two really bad choices, in different ways. Do tell. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 13:20:19 GMT -8
He said a whole lot more than what you've mentioned. I brought it up because I think they're both not fit to President. Two really bad choices, in different ways. Do tell. Did you watch the video? He certainly could have said a whole lot more, but only stuck to the inflation and border themes. He also highlighted how they haven't questioned Harris about past Biden inflammatory remarks, or questioned her on her past and present record. I'm sure that's coming, you would think. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 13:26:02 GMT -8
Did you watch the video? He certainly could have said a whole lot more, but only stuck to the inflation and border themes. He also highlighted how they haven't questioned Harris about past Biden inflammatory remarks, or questioned her on her past and present record. I'm sure that's coming, you would think. I'm not asking you Tom Cotton's partisan opinion that's riddled with inaccuracies and outright lies. Someone who's in Trump's pocket means nothing to me. I'm asking you, independently, to articulate what makes them both bad choices, both comprehensively and specifically to this election. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Aug 5, 2024 14:05:17 GMT -8
He said a whole lot more than what you've mentioned. I brought it up because I think they're both not fit to President. Two really bad choices, in different ways. Do tell. He's a Trumper that doesn't want to admit it...she's Black...that's all that is needed to disqualify her..."I don't know...two really bad choices"...as if a person convicted of rape, fraud, 34 felonies, twice impeached with 2-3 more felony cases is on the same level as a person that has none of that baggage...but he's white...he didn't mean it...what he meant to say was this...it's not as racist as it sounds...john can overlook all Trump's transgressions...because she's Black.... |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 14:07:03 GMT -8
Did you watch the video? He certainly could have said a whole lot more, but only stuck to the inflation and border themes. He also highlighted how they haven't questioned Harris about past Biden inflammatory remarks, or questioned her on her past and present record. I'm sure that's coming, you would think. I'm not asking you Tom Cotton's partisan opinion that's riddled with inaccuracies and outright lies. Someone who's in Trump's pocket means nothing to me. I'm asking you, independently, to articulate what makes them both bad choices, both comprehensively and specifically to this election. I've stated this many times, but here it goes, again. I do not like the Democrats position on abortion, which nullifys my vote for that party, every time, so enough said there. I'll also say that the important numbers are not good, so that can go against that administration. In terms of Trump, I've also stated many times before why I won't vote for him, but here it goes, again. I think he divided the country with his words. I don't think he's a good human. I always say that before COVID, the important numbers were good when he was President, but the division of the country was so bad, that superceded it. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 14:11:58 GMT -8
He's a Trumper that doesn't want to admit it...she's Black...that's all that is needed to disqualify her..."I don't know...two really bad choices"...as if a person convicted of rape, fraud, 34 felonies, twice impeached with 2-3 more felony cases is on the same level as a person that has none of that baggage...but he's white...he didn't mean it...what he meant to say was this...it's not as racist as it sounds...john can overlook all Trump's transgressions...because she's Black.... Ha ha!!! You couldn't be so wrong, but I'll let your words speak for themself. People like you just can't handle another side to your opinion. That's a bad quality. You can't take it. At least Ryan asks for answers to back up what a person says. If anybody's racist on here, that arrow would point to you, big time and it's not even close. Your opinion means zilch to me, but at least your entertaining at times and good for a laugh. Do you still think Trump pulled an WWE and cut his own ear on the way down? Lol. Or, it was a fake? I don't see how ANYBODY could take you seriously. Pitiful. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 14:29:50 GMT -8
I'm not asking you Tom Cotton's partisan opinion that's riddled with inaccuracies and outright lies. Someone who's in Trump's pocket means nothing to me. I'm asking you, independently, to articulate what makes them both bad choices, both comprehensively and specifically to this election. I've stated this many times, but here it goes, again. I do not like the Democrats position on abortion, which nullifys my vote for that party, every time, so enough said there. I'll also say that the important numbers are not good, so that can go against that administration. In terms of Trump, I've also stated many times before why I won't vote for him, but here it goes, again. I think he divided the country with his words. I don't think he's a good human. I always say that before COVID, the important numbers were good when he was President, but the division of the country was so bad, that superceded it. What are the "important numbers" that you're talking about? |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 14:49:13 GMT -8
I've stated this many times, but here it goes, again. I do not like the Democrats position on abortion, which nullifys my vote for that party, every time, so enough said there. I'll also say that the important numbers are not good, so that can go against that administration. In terms of Trump, I've also stated many times before why I won't vote for him, but here it goes, again. I think he divided the country with his words. I don't think he's a good human. I always say that before COVID, the important numbers were good when he was President, but the division of the country was so bad, that superceded it. What are the "important numbers" that you're talking about? I'm going to back track on that a bit, and say they're important numbers superficially, for a lot of Americans. I've learned some things on here, from you mainly, that even though there's higher gas prices, food prices, etc, there's reasons for that. So, a lot of Americans are going to just look at gas prices and say, wow, it wasn't like that under Trump. For instance, I saw a post from someone that said, remember this when you vote this year, and it was a picture of gas prices from Trump's tenure, and what they are now. Right or wrong, that's what America remembers. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 14:55:16 GMT -8
What are the "important numbers" that you're talking about? I'm going to back track on that a bit, and say they're important numbers superficially, for a lot of Americans. I've learned some things on here, from you mainly, that even though there's higher gas prices, food prices, etc, there's reasons for that. So, a lot of Americans are going to just look at gas prices and say, wow, it wasn't like that under Trump. For instance, I saw a post from someone that said, remember this when you vote this year, and it was a picture of gas prices from Trump's tenure, and what they are now. Right or wrong, that's what America remembers. I don't believe that to be accurate. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 14:58:15 GMT -8
I'm going to back track on that a bit, and say they're important numbers superficially, for a lot of Americans. I've learned some things on here, from you mainly, that even though there's higher gas prices, food prices, etc, there's reasons for that. So, a lot of Americans are going to just look at gas prices and say, wow, it wasn't like that under Trump. For instance, I saw a post from someone that said, remember this when you vote this year, and it was a picture of gas prices from Trump's tenure, and what they are now. Right or wrong, that's what America remembers. I don't believe that to be accurate. What, that many Americans will look at it superficially? |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 15:03:28 GMT -8
I don't believe that to be accurate. What, that many Americans will look at it superficially? No, that I have no doubt of, at all. But I don't view it as driving someone's election choice any more than disastrous Trump policies that eroded trust in the federal government. As I've said before, the path for Trump to somehow make inroads with moderates and independents to escape his glass ceiling. I've seen absolutely nothing to indicate that he's capable of doing that, with an idiotic pick for VP that's done nothing but alienate middle of the road voters and nothing but partisan, racially-driven attacks against his opponent. I don't think he has any room for growth, unless something dramatic happens on the campaign trail to sway the masses. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 15:23:07 GMT -8
What, that many Americans will look at it superficially? No, that I have no doubt of, at all. But I don't view it as driving someone's election choice any more than disastrous Trump policies that eroded trust in the federal government. As I've said before, the path for Trump to somehow make inroads with moderates and independents to escape his glass ceiling. I've seen absolutely nothing to indicate that he's capable of doing that, with an idiotic pick for VP that's done nothing but alienate middle of the road voters and nothing but partisan, racially-driven attacks against his opponent. I don't think he has any room for growth, unless something dramatic happens on the campaign trail to sway the masses. That could be true, but I forgot to mention the border issue, or you might say, non border issue, that Trump, et al, will drive home in the coming months, and Harris record before and after she became VP, mainly on crime. I'm not saying that I believe it all, but I think those two issues are what may change the minds of people on the fence, unless she can answer to those issues sufficiently. I'd like to see how Harris will defend those issues. That will be key. Hopefully, they debate. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 15:31:35 GMT -8
No, that I have no doubt of, at all. But I don't view it as driving someone's election choice any more than disastrous Trump policies that eroded trust in the federal government. As I've said before, the path for Trump to somehow make inroads with moderates and independents to escape his glass ceiling. I've seen absolutely nothing to indicate that he's capable of doing that, with an idiotic pick for VP that's done nothing but alienate middle of the road voters and nothing but partisan, racially-driven attacks against his opponent. I don't think he has any room for growth, unless something dramatic happens on the campaign trail to sway the masses. That could be true, but I forgot to mention the border issue, or you might say, non border issue, that Trump, et al, will drive home in the coming months, and Harris record before and after she became VP, mainly on crime. I'm not saying that I believe it all, but I think those two issues are what may change the minds of people on the fence, unless she can answer to those issues sufficiently. I'd like to see how Harris will defend those issues. That will be key. Hopefully, they debate. Crime is down under the Biden administration and border crossings are at their lowest in nearly four years. It's a lot easier when one side can run on actual facts and progress, while the other just repeats talking points. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 16:18:44 GMT -8
That could be true, but I forgot to mention the border issue, or you might say, non border issue, that Trump, et al, will drive home in the coming months, and Harris record before and after she became VP, mainly on crime. I'm not saying that I believe it all, but I think those two issues are what may change the minds of people on the fence, unless she can answer to those issues sufficiently. I'd like to see how Harris will defend those issues. That will be key. Hopefully, they debate. Crime is down under the Biden administration and border crossings are at their lowest in nearly four years. It's a lot easier when one side can run on actual facts and progress, while the other just repeats talking points. It also isn't good when the stock market is really bad, and the unemployment rate is at its highest in years. Just more talking points for Trump. This will go back and forth, but what I'm really hoping for is a debate. I know you say that it won't change things, but if one or the other has a horrible debate, it sure as heck can. We've heard enough from Trump, so now I want to hear from Kamala. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 16:41:43 GMT -8
Crime is down under the Biden administration and border crossings are at their lowest in nearly four years. It's a lot easier when one side can run on actual facts and progress, while the other just repeats talking points. It also isn't good when the stock market is really bad, and the unemployment rate is at its highest in years. Just more talking points for Trump. This will go back and forth, but what I'm really hoping for is a debate. I know you say that it won't change things, but if one or the other has a horrible debate, it sure as heck can. We've heard enough from Trump, so now I want to hear from Kamala. I can tell where you're consuming news from. And no, debates do not matter....again. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 17:52:37 GMT -8
It also isn't good when the stock market is really bad, and the unemployment rate is at its highest in years. Just more talking points for Trump. This will go back and forth, but what I'm really hoping for is a debate. I know you say that it won't change things, but if one or the other has a horrible debate, it sure as heck can. We've heard enough from Trump, so now I want to hear from Kamala. I can tell where you're consuming news from. And no, debates do not matter....again. The Stock Market issue was one I saw because that's unavoidable. When the stock market did what it did, you're going to hear about it if you listen to ANY News. I made my own observation that Trump would probably use that. I simply googled the current unemployment rate after I heard on an LA radio Station 570 that it's the highest in a while, and again, I made my own observation that Trump would use that, as well. I really try to get both sides on issues if possible, and I no longer jump to conclusions and like I said before, have learned that are reasons for why an issue may doing well, or not. I mean it's not rocket science to say that Trump is going to use those issues against her, in which he probably already is. I disagree with you on the debate that it won't have a possible affect. If either candidate stumbles badly, it will have an affect. The Biden debate sure made a HUGE impact. There's no denying that. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 5, 2024 18:06:46 GMT -8
I can tell where you're consuming news from. And no, debates do not matter....again. The Stock Market issue was one I saw because that's unavoidable. When the stock market did what it did, you're going to hear about it if you listen to ANY News. I made my own observation that Trump would probably use that. I simply googled the current unemployment rate after I heard on an LA radio Station 570 that it's the highest in a while, and again, I made my own observation that Trump would use that, as well. I really try to get both sides on issues if possible, and I no longer jump to conclusions and like I said before, have learned that are reasons for why an issue may doing well, or not. I mean it's not rocket science to say that Trump is going to use those issues against her, in which he probably already is. I disagree with you on the debate that it won't have a possible affect. If either candidate stumbles badly, it will have an affect. The Biden debate sure made a HUGE impact. There's no denying that. Trump has no business talking about the stock market...when he was actively rooting for it to crash to exact a political vendetta against Biden and Harris. He wasn't exactly hiding it, either. He also has no business throwing stones when he owns 80% of the largest DJIA drops during his administration. So that's a bold strategy, but not one that is going to resonate with anyone who has the ability to use a computer. You need to actually do research on this stuff or you're just throwing out crap and seeing what sticks. The unemployment rate is 4.3%, it's gone up 0.6% since January. Unemployment under the Trump administration peaked at 14.8%, so yeah, another really bold strategy, but another fail. I've already talked about the debate enough, so not rehashing that. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 19:00:52 GMT -8
The Stock Market issue was one I saw because that's unavoidable. When the stock market did what it did, you're going to hear about it if you listen to ANY News. I made my own observation that Trump would probably use that. I simply googled the current unemployment rate after I heard on an LA radio Station 570 that it's the highest in a while, and again, I made my own observation that Trump would use that, as well. I really try to get both sides on issues if possible, and I no longer jump to conclusions and like I said before, have learned that are reasons for why an issue may doing well, or not. I mean it's not rocket science to say that Trump is going to use those issues against her, in which he probably already is. I disagree with you on the debate that it won't have a possible affect. If either candidate stumbles badly, it will have an affect. The Biden debate sure made a HUGE impact. There's no denying that. Trump has no business talking about the stock market...when he was actively rooting for it to crash to exact a political vendetta against Biden and Harris. He wasn't exactly hiding it, either. He also has no business throwing stones when he owns 80% of the largest DJIA drops during his administration. So that's a bold strategy, but not one that is going to resonate with anyone who has the ability to use a computer. You need to actually do research on this stuff or you're just throwing out crap and seeing what sticks. The unemployment rate is 4.3%, it's gone up 0.6% since January. Unemployment under the Trump administration peaked at 14.8%, so yeah, another really bold strategy, but another fail. I've already talked about the debate enough, so not rehashing that. Was that high rate for unemployment during COVID? Also, I'm only mentioning what I think he'll try and use against Kamala. I'm not saying that it's a good strategy, but we all know he'll throw crap out there. So it's really not crap that I'm throwing out there because I'm sure he'll use it against her, and that administration, if he hasn't already. He'll say that it's the highest unemployment since 2021. It's up to people who are undecided to do research since he can throw some stuff out there that doesn't look good for the current administration at face value, and Kamala's past record, as well. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 5, 2024 19:05:45 GMT -8
I think both Trump and Biden presided over good economy's. They were both also affected by COVID.
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