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Post by uwphoto on Jul 25, 2024 14:58:39 GMT -8
Hearing some chatter out there. Not going to post any links, but I've actually thought about it since it's obviously a horrible choice (if you are trump). Personally, I'm just hoping they don't move off this guy. Wouldn't be easy, and time is running out...but it would not shock me.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 25, 2024 15:08:10 GMT -8
Hearing some chatter out there. Not going to post any links, but I've actually thought about it since it's obviously a horrible choice (if you are trump). Personally, I'm just hoping they don't move off this guy. Wouldn't be easy, and time is running out...but it would not shock me. Good luck. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 25, 2024 21:17:44 GMT -8
I'd like to see Vance stay. He's a great example of the kind of person Donald Trump respects and admires. He's a cautionary tale to the rest of the country.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 26, 2024 8:32:15 GMT -8
Yes, hate that when one of our citizens enlists in the Marines to risk his life in service to us and our country, then has the good sense to complete his education, and proceeds to continue to serve his country as a Senator winning his election 53% to 47% in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans.
I suppose you also can't wait for the debate of Democrat ECar mandates between him and, let's all hope, the extremely competent Pete Buttigieg in front of Michigan voters associated with the auto industry. Oh and then the discussion of how Democrat Climate policy hates the cattle-related industries in front of Wisconsin voters associated with Cheese and Meatpacking. And then the discussion of Democrat policies regarding petroleum-based energy in front of Pennsylvanian voters.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 26, 2024 8:47:27 GMT -8
Yes, hate that when one of our citizens enlists in the Marines to risk his life in service to us and our country, then has the good sense to complete his education, and proceeds to continue to serve his country as a Senator winning his election 53% to 47% in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans. I suppose you also can't wait for the debate of Democrat ECar mandates between him and, let's all hope, the extremely competent Pete Buttigieg in front of Michigan voters associated with the auto industry. Oh and then the discussion of how Democrat Climate policy hates the cattle-related industries in front of Wisconsin voters associated with Cheese and Meatpacking. And then the discussion of Democrat policies regarding petroleum-based energy in front of Pennsylvanian voters. You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever. |
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Post by azson on Jul 26, 2024 9:15:59 GMT -8
Yes, hate that when one of our citizens enlists in the Marines to risk his life in service to us and our country, then has the good sense to complete his education, and proceeds to continue to serve his country as a Senator winning his election 53% to 47% in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans. I suppose you also can't wait for the debate of Democrat ECar mandates between him and, let's all hope, the extremely competent Pete Buttigieg in front of Michigan voters associated with the auto industry. Oh and then the discussion of how Democrat Climate policy hates the cattle-related industries in front of Wisconsin voters associated with Cheese and Meatpacking. And then the discussion of Democrat policies regarding petroleum-based energy in front of Pennsylvanian voters. You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever.I find him being rated worse than Sarah Palin hard to believe...but I suppose she may have been rated higher until she opened her mouth in her first VP debate. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 26, 2024 9:58:55 GMT -8
Yes, hate that when one of our citizens enlists in the Marines to risk his life in service to us and our country, then has the good sense to complete his education, and proceeds to continue to serve his country as a Senator winning his election 53% to 47% in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans. I suppose you also can't wait for the debate of Democrat ECar mandates between him and, let's all hope, the extremely competent Pete Buttigieg in front of Michigan voters associated with the auto industry. Oh and then the discussion of how Democrat Climate policy hates the cattle-related industries in front of Wisconsin voters associated with Cheese and Meatpacking. And then the discussion of Democrat policies regarding petroleum-based energy in front of Pennsylvanian voters. You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever. Serious question. If it's such a blatantly bad pick, why do you think he picked him? Trump obviously doesn't want to lose. You make it sound as though he really blew it and it's not going to help him at all. I wonder if he didn't listen to his advisors and picked him because he became close to the Trump family. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 26, 2024 10:06:34 GMT -8
You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever. Serious question. If it's such a blatantly bad pick, why do you think he picked him? Trump obviously doesn't want to lose. You make it sound as though he really blew it and it's not going to help him at all. I wonder if he didn't listen to his advisors and picked him because he became close to the Trump family. Already covered this. Vance is 39 and Trump needs a theoretical window to advance his agenda beyond his presidency, maintaining his stranglehold stop the party. The old guard will be bowing out, so you'll see more extremist candidates take their place. Trump would be termed-out as president and Vance is the youngest candidate around to keep him relevant. He's a MAGA individual through and through, the familial options behind Donald are non-starters and it's a legitimate pathway to segue through to a Vance presidency and continue their legislative assault. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 26, 2024 10:15:31 GMT -8
You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever. Serious question. If it's such a blatantly bad pick, why do you think he picked him? Trump obviously doesn't want to lose. You make it sound as though he really blew it and it's not going to help him at all. I wonder if he didn't listen to his advisors and picked him because he became close to the Trump family. And yes, I suspect Eric and Cocaine Jr. had a lot to do with it, as did some other voices that are pretty prominent. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 26, 2024 18:13:01 GMT -8
Yes, hate that when one of our citizens enlists in the Marines to risk his life in service to us and our country, then has the good sense to complete his education, and proceeds to continue to serve his country as a Senator winning his election 53% to 47% in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans. I suppose you also can't wait for the debate of Democrat ECar mandates between him and, let's all hope, the extremely competent Pete Buttigieg in front of Michigan voters associated with the auto industry. Oh and then the discussion of how Democrat Climate policy hates the cattle-related industries in front of Wisconsin voters associated with Cheese and Meatpacking. And then the discussion of Democrat policies regarding petroleum-based energy in front of Pennsylvanian voters. The opposition is begging trump to keep Vance...what does that tell you? "I only hire the best people"! I've been on here long enough to remember you touting Palin for a couple years. How'd that work out for you? How many times did the Wasilla police department get calls on the Palin house? |
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 26, 2024 19:24:25 GMT -8
Yes, hate that when one of our citizens enlists in the Marines to risk his life in service to us and our country, then has the good sense to complete his education, and proceeds to continue to serve his country as a Senator winning his election 53% to 47% in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans. I suppose you also can't wait for the debate of Democrat ECar mandates between him and, let's all hope, the extremely competent Pete Buttigieg in front of Michigan voters associated with the auto industry. Oh and then the discussion of how Democrat Climate policy hates the cattle-related industries in front of Wisconsin voters associated with Cheese and Meatpacking. And then the discussion of Democrat policies regarding petroleum-based energy in front of Pennsylvanian voters. You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever. People do die as war correspondents - you realize that, right? You're taking photos and video next to and around people shooting, bombing and mortaring each other. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 26, 2024 19:29:30 GMT -8
You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever. Serious question. If it's such a blatantly bad pick, why do you think he picked him? Trump obviously doesn't want to lose. You make it sound as though he really blew it and it's not going to help him at all. I wonder if he didn't listen to his advisors and picked him because he became close to the Trump family. I think that he is a really good pick. He's young, and he's the future of the Republican MAGA movement. He served as a Marine (I don't give a crap if you are 'only' a war correspondent, you have to be tough to get through boot camp, and you are serving in combat zones). He's a senator. In many respects he's similar to both Obama and Buttigieg - young senator like Obama was, military experience and Ivy League education like Buttigieg. Which BTW, I think Buttigieg is the best VP pick (personally). |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 26, 2024 19:32:34 GMT -8
You absolutely don't have to stump for every $#!+ individual on the planet just because they chose to complete their education or whatever, The Ivy? It's not a rare thing. Also, he was a combat correspondent in the Marines, he never saw real combat. www.harvardmagazine.com/2020/12/jhj-capitol-hill-117thButtigeig would annihilate him, they could be taking about shoelaces....it wouldn't matter. Vance was a horrendous choice to appeal to moderates swing state voters, point blank. His abortion stance will alienate women and he's got a very.... bizarre past, that's starting to come out. He's actually the worst VP from an approval ratings standpoint early on...ever. People do die as war correspondents - you realize that, right? You're taking photos and video next to and around people shooting, bombing and mortaring each other. My dad was a Marine in Vietnam, so yes, I have plenty of stories on that front. But the fact is Vance never picked up a weapon in his career. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 26, 2024 19:35:10 GMT -8
Serious question. If it's such a blatantly bad pick, why do you think he picked him? Trump obviously doesn't want to lose. You make it sound as though he really blew it and it's not going to help him at all. I wonder if he didn't listen to his advisors and picked him because he became close to the Trump family. I think that he is a really good pick. He's young, and he's the future of the Republican MAGA movement. He served as a Marine (I don't give a crap if you are 'only' a war correspondent, you have to be tough to get through boot camp, and you are serving in combat zones). He's a senator. In many respects he's similar to both Obama and Buttigieg - young senator like Obama was, military experience and Ivy League education like Buttigieg. Which BTW, I think Buttigieg is the best VP pick (personally). You have read and heard his comments right? He's an abhorrent far right, misogynistic, racist, authoritarian POS. He's an embarassment to the country as a whole. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 26, 2024 19:36:27 GMT -8
I think that he is a really good pick. He's young, and he's the future of the Republican MAGA movement. He served as a Marine (I don't give a crap if you are 'only' a war correspondent, you have to be tough to get through boot camp, and you are serving in combat zones). He's a senator. In many respects he's similar to both Obama and Buttigieg - young senator like Obama was, military experience and Ivy League education like Buttigieg. Which BTW, I think Buttigieg is the best VP pick (personally). You have read and heard his comments right? He's an abhorrent far right, misogynistic, racist, authoritarian POS. He's an embarassment to the country as a whole. Yes - he is everything MAGA stands for! He is a great pick - For Them. I never said that I liked him. I said that Trump made a good choice. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 26, 2024 19:47:14 GMT -8
Serious question. If it's such a blatantly bad pick, why do you think he picked him? Trump obviously doesn't want to lose. You make it sound as though he really blew it and it's not going to help him at all. I wonder if he didn't listen to his advisors and picked him because he became close to the Trump family. I think that he is a really good pick. He's young, and he's the future of the Republican MAGA movement. He served as a Marine (I don't give a crap if you are 'only' a war correspondent, you have to be tough to get through boot camp, and you are serving in combat zones). He's a senator. In many respects he's similar to both Obama and Buttigieg - young senator like Obama was, military experience and Ivy League education like Buttigieg. Which BTW, I think Buttigieg is the best VP pick (personally). I think Buttigieg is the sharpest tool in the shed. He's my pick. However, for this ticket, I just don't know if he's the best fit (helps get key swing states). As I mentioned in another thread, he would destroy JD Vance in a debate. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 26, 2024 20:16:43 GMT -8
One of the reasons why I think Vance is a poor pick is I don't think he helps Trump in Pennsylvania, which is a pretty pivotal state for either side. Minnesota appears to be safe D, Michigan and Wisconsin will have many similarities, but Ohio (safe R) doesn't behave the same as Pennsylvania does.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 26, 2024 22:01:43 GMT -8
One of the reasons why I think Vance is a poor pick is I don't think he helps Trump in Pennsylvania, which is a pretty pivotal state for either side. Minnesota appears to be safe D, Michigan and Wisconsin will have many similarities, but Ohio (safe R) doesn't behave the same as Pennsylvania does. Now this is a more reasonable explanation for why you think he's a bad pick, rather than saying all he was in the Marines was a correspondent, and it's no big deal that he graduated from an Ivy league University, Summa Cum Laude. I could also understand the negativity about his inexperience. He achieved a lot and overcame quite a bit in his life, even if someone doesn't agree with his politics/policies. Those are things you can't take away from him. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 26, 2024 22:07:06 GMT -8
One of the reasons why I think Vance is a poor pick is I don't think he helps Trump in Pennsylvania, which is a pretty pivotal state for either side. Minnesota appears to be safe D, Michigan and Wisconsin will have many similarities, but Ohio (safe R) doesn't behave the same as Pennsylvania does. Now this is a more reasonable explanation for why you think he's a bad pick, rather than saying all he was in the Marines was a correspondent, and it's no big deal that he graduated from an Ivy league University, Summa Cum Laude. I could also understand the negativity about his inexperience. He achieved a lot and overcame quite a bit in his life, even if someone doesn't agree with his politics/policies. Those are things you can't take away from him. There was nothing unreasonable with my prior thought process, either. I don't like extremists. I don't care about his military background, where he went to school or anything else other than what he represents. Like I said, it's not special. Ted Cruz went to Harvard, should we give him a gold star? Tom Cotton? Look at what JD Vance advocates for: That's where it starts and stops. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 26, 2024 23:05:55 GMT -8
Now this is a more reasonable explanation for why you think he's a bad pick, rather than saying all he was in the Marines was a correspondent, and it's no big deal that he graduated from an Ivy league University, Summa Cum Laude. I could also understand the negativity about his inexperience. He achieved a lot and overcame quite a bit in his life, even if someone doesn't agree with his politics/policies. Those are things you can't take away from him. There was nothing unreasonable with my prior thought process, either. I don't like extremists. I don't care about his military background, where he went to school or anything else other than what he represents. Like I said, it's not special. Ted Cruz went to Harvard, should we give him a gold star? Tom Cotton? Look at what JD Vance advocates for: That's where it starts and stops. Ok, you're entitled to your opinion, but there's more to his story than just his Military Service, and his Education. |
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