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Post by aztecryan on Jul 26, 2024 23:26:47 GMT -8
There was nothing unreasonable with my prior thought process, either. I don't like extremists. I don't care about his military background, where he went to school or anything else other than what he represents. Like I said, it's not special. Ted Cruz went to Harvard, should we give him a gold star? Tom Cotton? Look at what JD Vance advocates for: That's where it starts and stops. Ok, you're entitled to your opinion, but there's more to his story than just his Military Service, and his Education. Like what? What is relevant to his actual political views? For someone who claims to not be on this side anymore, you're arguing this into the ground.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 26, 2024 23:39:17 GMT -8
Ok, you're entitled to your opinion, but there's more to his story than just his Military Service, and his Education. Like what? What is relevant to his actual political views? For someone who claims to not be on this side anymore, you're arguing this into the ground. Again, I don't like unfairness. I've spoken up when someone mischaracterized Biden and others. I get it that you don't like his political views, etc, but I was only responding to you when you basically said that his Military background was ONLY as a Correspondent, and no big deal that he went to an Ivy league school, graduating Summa Cum Laude. He was also raised by his grandmother without a mother and father. He did well for himself. There was a movie about his life. He could have strayed away, but made something of himself. I like to give credit where credit is due. You can think differently, and I don't rip you. Sheesh.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 27, 2024 9:23:20 GMT -8
Like what? What is relevant to his actual political views? For someone who claims to not be on this side anymore, you're arguing this into the ground. Again, I don't like unfairness. I've spoken up when someone mischaracterized Biden and others. I get it that you don't like his political views, etc, but I was only responding to you when you basically said that his Military background was ONLY as a Correspondent, and no big deal that he went to an Ivy league school, graduating Summa Cum Laude. He was also raised by his grandmother without a mother and father. He did well for himself. There was a movie about his life. He could have strayed away, but made something of himself. I like to give credit where credit is due. You can think differently, and I don't rip you. Sheesh. Yeah exactly. It's okay to recognize someone's strengths, even if you don't agree with them ideologically.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 27, 2024 9:31:19 GMT -8
Again, I don't like unfairness. I've spoken up when someone mischaracterized Biden and others. I get it that you don't like his political views, etc, but I was only responding to you when you basically said that his Military background was ONLY as a Correspondent, and no big deal that he went to an Ivy league school, graduating Summa Cum Laude. He was also raised by his grandmother without a mother and father. He did well for himself. There was a movie about his life. He could have strayed away, but made something of himself. I like to give credit where credit is due. You can think differently, and I don't rip you. Sheesh. Yeah exactly. It's okay to recognize someone's strengths, even if you don't agree with them ideologically. His strength is advancing the MAGA agenda due to his age. He's the most inexperienced VP nominee we've ever had. Just the truth of the matter.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 27, 2024 10:06:25 GMT -8
Again, I don't like unfairness. I've spoken up when someone mischaracterized Biden and others. I get it that you don't like his political views, etc, but I was only responding to you when you basically said that his Military background was ONLY as a Correspondent, and no big deal that he went to an Ivy league school, graduating Summa Cum Laude. He was also raised by his grandmother without a mother and father. He did well for himself. There was a movie about his life. He could have strayed away, but made something of himself. I like to give credit where credit is due. You can think differently, and I don't rip you. Sheesh. Yeah exactly. It's okay to recognize someone's strengths, even if you don't agree with them ideologically. Bingo.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 27, 2024 10:07:59 GMT -8
Yeah exactly. It's okay to recognize someone's strengths, even if you don't agree with them ideologically. Bingo. What are his "strengths", in detail?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 27, 2024 12:56:44 GMT -8
What are his "strengths", in detail? I've already detailed it out. Everything I've posted about him equals strength.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 27, 2024 13:51:57 GMT -8
What are his "strengths", in detail? I've already detailed it out. Everything I've posted about him equals strength. Weak response.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 27, 2024 14:24:43 GMT -8
I've already detailed it out. Everything I've posted about him equals strength. Weak response. Weak response. I don't like to repeat myself.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 27, 2024 15:04:10 GMT -8
Weak response. I don't like to repeat myself. Or you have a hard time justifying a bad answer. What about his military service or his education makes him a good candidate?
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 27, 2024 16:57:46 GMT -8
You have read and heard his comments right? He's an abhorrent far right, misogynistic, racist, authoritarian POS. He's an embarassment to the country as a whole. Yes - he is everything MAGA stands for! He is a great pick - For Them. I never said that I liked him. I said that Trump made a good choice. A good choice to help him LOSE the election. What constitutes a good choice in your book? Someone who preaches to the choir, or someone who goes outside of the base to reach out to win over new voters?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 27, 2024 20:19:40 GMT -8
Weak response. I don't like to repeat myself. Or you have a hard time justifying a bad answer. What about his military service or his education makes him a good candidate? Lol. Bad answer. Uh, I was never talking about politics. I was only talking about his accomplishments as an individual outside of politics. I NEVER said he was a good, or bad candidate. That's not what I was talking about. Sheesh. You're so wound up about it, you can't see straight it seems. Absorb what a person is speaking about, please.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 27, 2024 21:07:08 GMT -8
Or you have a hard time justifying a bad answer. What about his military service or his education makes him a good candidate? Lol. Bad answer. Uh, I was never talking about politics. I was only talking about his accomplishments as an individual outside of politics. I NEVER said he was a good, or bad candidate. That's not what I was talking about. Sheesh. You're so wound up about it, you can't see straight it seems. Absorb what a person is speaking about, please. I'm not wound up at all. You can't answer a basic question. "Strength" is a weird thing to capitalize on. He served in the Marines and graduated from Yale. That describes more than a few members of Congress. Not all that unique.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 27, 2024 22:55:36 GMT -8
Lol. Bad answer. Uh, I was never talking about politics. I was only talking about his accomplishments as an individual outside of politics. I NEVER said he was a good, or bad candidate. That's not what I was talking about. Sheesh. You're so wound up about it, you can't see straight it seems. Absorb what a person is speaking about, please. I'm not wound up at all. You can't answer a basic question. "Strength" is a weird thing to capitalize on. He served in the Marines and graduated from Yale. That describes more than a few members of Congress. Not all that unique. Again, I was never commenting about whether or not he would make a good VP, or not. I was simply talking about his background and his accomplishments. That's it. And, I'll say it AGAIN, it's more than just his Military Service and Education, it's the obstacles that he had to persevere through in his life to get to where he's at today. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Sheesh. You seem to want to make it more than that, for whatever reason, but it's not going to happen.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 27, 2024 23:21:43 GMT -8
I'm not wound up at all. You can't answer a basic question. "Strength" is a weird thing to capitalize on. He served in the Marines and graduated from Yale. That describes more than a few members of Congress. Not all that unique. Again, I was never commenting about whether or not he would make a good VP, or not. I was simply talking about his background and his accomplishments. That's it. And, I'll say it AGAIN, it's more than just his Military Service and Education, it's the obstacles that he had to persevere through in his life to get to where he's at today. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Sheesh. You seem to want to make it more than that, for whatever reason, but it's not going to happen. Because this thread is about replacing him and I asked you what his strengths are that relate to him being a potential VP. He's kind of a fraud. beltmag.com/jd-vance-long-con-hillbilly-elegy/
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 27, 2024 23:49:01 GMT -8
Again, I was never commenting about whether or not he would make a good VP, or not. I was simply talking about his background and his accomplishments. That's it. And, I'll say it AGAIN, it's more than just his Military Service and Education, it's the obstacles that he had to persevere through in his life to get to where he's at today. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Sheesh. You seem to want to make it more than that, for whatever reason, but it's not going to happen. Because this thread is about replacing him and I asked you what his strengths are that relate to him being a potential VP. He's kind of a fraud. beltmag.com/jd-vance-long-con-hillbilly-elegy/Ok, so I'll clear this up from where I stand in his case. I don't know if I buy it when he says that he changed his tune on Trump after Trump took office. I don't know how he can go from saying "Trump's Hitler", to becoming the VP nominee and praising Trump left and right. Well, actually I guess I do know. He's a politician and 90 percent of them are slimy it seems to be. He's not unlike the majority of politicians out there. They'll do whatever it takes to further their career.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 27, 2024 23:58:30 GMT -8
Ok, so I'll clear this up from where I stand in his case. I don't know if I buy it when he says that he changed his tune on Trump after Trump took office. I don't know how he can go from saying "Trump's Hitler", to becoming the VP nominee and praising Trump left and right. Well, actually I guess I do know. He's a politician and 90 percent of them are slimy it seems to be. He's not unlike the majority of politicians out there. They'll do whatever it takes to further their career. Winner winner.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 28, 2024 5:54:53 GMT -8
Anybody else out there (here) agree with Vance that "rape and incest are inconvenient"?
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Post by azson on Jul 29, 2024 10:09:03 GMT -8
What are his "strengths", in detail? I've already detailed it out. Everything I've posted about him equals strength. He trashed Trump and (rightfully) called him America's Hitler. Now he's done a complete 180 because it suits him politically. That's the antithesis of strength and what most would call spineless.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 29, 2024 10:12:14 GMT -8
I've already detailed it out. Everything I've posted about him equals strength. He trashed Trump and (rightfully) called him America's Hitler. Now he's done a complete 180 because it suits him politically. That's the antithesis of strength and what most would call spineless. I've agreed with this in my other posts. I was only talking about his accomplishments in terms of military and education.
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