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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 21, 2024 12:07:07 GMT -8
But put that aside for a second and realize that the invalidation of votes and overriding the people's overwhelming choice is as anti-democracy as it gets. The sham was in hiding Biden's condition from the primary voters. Anyone with half a brain knew he was slow, but no way he does nearly as well had they known how bad he really was. It took the debate to reveal that. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 21, 2024 12:11:48 GMT -8
Biden didn't really run against anybody on the Primary. That's why he got that high percentage.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2024 12:12:13 GMT -8
But put that aside for a second and realize that the invalidation of votes and overriding the people's overwhelming choice is as anti-democracy as it gets. The sham was in hiding Biden's condition from the primary voters. Anyone with half a brain knew he was slow, but no way he does nearly as well had they known how bad he really was. It took the debate to reveal that. How can you "hide" something from the most visible office on the planet? If you needed a debate to tell you that Biden is 81 years old and confuses words, then you probably didn't much pay attention previously. And this circles back to the same argument: The opposing candidate is 78, displays many of the same characteristics and yet not a single soul has said a word about his efficiency or effectiveness. Zero calls for him to drop out, despite being a felon, a civilly held rapist, a national security threat.... This is about narratives, money and the media. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2024 12:12:37 GMT -8
Biden didn't really run against anybody on the Primary. That's why he got that high percentage. Do you know how primaries work? |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jul 21, 2024 12:13:52 GMT -8
The deadline to change the candidate has passed in Nevada and Wisconsin. It is illegal to change the candidate after the primary and before the convention just because that candidate might lose in the general election. This is a coup. So if a candidate dies they can't replace that candidate? Or if a candidate becomes too sick to act as President that candidate can't be replaced? Please. Stop. |
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Post by aardvark on Jul 21, 2024 12:15:38 GMT -8
The deadline to change the candidate has passed in Nevada and Wisconsin. It is illegal to change the candidate after the primary and before the convention just because that candidate might lose in the general election. This is a coup. So if a candidate dies they can't replace that candidate? Or if a candidate becomes too sick to act as President that candidate can't be replaced? Please. Stop. No. Let him continue. Just for the entertainment value. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2024 12:16:48 GMT -8
Biden didn't really run against anybody on the Primary. That's why he got that high percentage. Biden won New Hampshire when he wasn't even on the ballot. Overwhelmingly. Trump ran against Nikki Haley and lost margin in safe GOP states. Biden had the incumbent advantage, Trump had the former president advantage. Neither one ran against a deep pool of candidates with any kind of mainstream appeal. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 21, 2024 12:19:06 GMT -8
Biden didn't really run against anybody on the Primary. That's why he got that high percentage. Do you know how primaries work? I might be mistaken, but I don't think he had much competition. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 21, 2024 12:19:53 GMT -8
There is going to be some kind of nomination...Harris and whoever wants to challenge her will be nominated by delegates...akin to a civil service interview for a job...got to interview 10 people...even though we already know who has the job...that's to make it legit and not an anointment....
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 21, 2024 12:20:07 GMT -8
Biden didn't really run against anybody on the Primary. That's why he got that high percentage. Biden won New Hampshire when he wasn't even on the ballot. Overwhelmingly. Trump ran against Nikki Haley and lost margin in safe GOP states. Biden had the incumbent advantage, Trump had the former president advantage. Neither one ran against a deep pool of candidates with any kind of mainstream appeal. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yes, same for Trump. |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 21, 2024 12:20:40 GMT -8
The sham was in hiding Biden's condition from the primary voters. Anyone with half a brain knew he was slow, but no way he does nearly as well had they known how bad he really was. It took the debate to reveal that. How can you "hide" something from the most visible office on the planet? If you needed a debate to tell you that Biden is 81 years old and confuses words, then you probably didn't much pay attention previously. And this circles back to the same argument: The opposing candidate is 78, displays many of the same characteristics and yet not a single soul has said a word about his efficiency or effectiveness. Zero calls for him to drop out, despite being a felon, a civilly held rapist, a national security threat.... This is about narratives, money and the media. Because he rarely spoke without a teleprompter. Of course he's 81 and confuses words. I'm much younger and sometimes do the same. But he looked lost in the debate and gibberish came out many times. He also failed to address Trump's multiple lies. This after a week of dedicated prep. I'd never vote for him, but let's be real. Trump is far more articulate and sharp than Biden. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2024 12:21:26 GMT -8
Biden won New Hampshire when he wasn't even on the ballot. Overwhelmingly. Trump ran against Nikki Haley and lost margin in safe GOP states. Biden had the incumbent advantage, Trump had the former president advantage. Neither one ran against a deep pool of candidates with any kind of mainstream appeal. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yes, same for Trump. But the voters overwhelmingly chose Biden. That's the takeaway. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2024 12:26:27 GMT -8
How can you "hide" something from the most visible office on the planet? If you needed a debate to tell you that Biden is 81 years old and confuses words, then you probably didn't much pay attention previously. And this circles back to the same argument: The opposing candidate is 78, displays many of the same characteristics and yet not a single soul has said a word about his efficiency or effectiveness. Zero calls for him to drop out, despite being a felon, a civilly held rapist, a national security threat.... This is about narratives, money and the media. Because he rarely spoke without a teleprompter. Of course he's 81 and confuses words. I'm much younger and sometimes do the same. But he looked lost in the debate and gibberish came out many times. He also failed to address Trump's multiple lies. This after a week of dedicated prep. I'd never vote for him, but let's be real. Trump is far more articulate and sharp than Biden. Nobody speaks regularly without a teleprompter. Are we seriously still using this as a crutch? It's a farce. I watched Biden deliver off the cuff remarks in public outings, multiple times. Once again, it's not on the opposing candidate to combat the lie in a timed format. Real time fact checking is a necessity. This has very little to do with the debate and a whole lot to do with the money being held hostage from self-important people. And no, I don't agree. Louder? Sure. More divisive? Sure. But articulate? Absolutely not. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 21, 2024 12:29:17 GMT -8
Because he rarely spoke without a teleprompter. Of course he's 81 and confuses words. I'm much younger and sometimes do the same. But he looked lost in the debate and gibberish came out many times. He also failed to address Trump's multiple lies. This after a week of dedicated prep. I'd never vote for him, but let's be real. Trump is far more articulate and sharp than Biden. Nobody speaks regularly without a teleprompter. Are we seriously still using this as a crutch? It's a farce. I watched Biden deliver off the cuff remarks in public outings, multiple times. Once again, it's not on the opposing candidate to combat the lie in a timed format. Real time fact checking is a necessity. This has very little to do with the debate and a whole lot to do with the money being held hostage from self-important people. And no, I don't agree. Louder? Sure. More divisive? Sure. But articulate? Absolutely not. Yep, more about the funding that the top donors said they would no longer fund. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2024 12:32:30 GMT -8
I'd like to credit Joe Biden for putting his country over his personal politics and having the fortitude to step away, even if I hate how the conclusion came to pass.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 21, 2024 12:38:24 GMT -8
I'd like to credit Joe Biden for putting his country over his personal politics and having the fortitude to step away, even if I hate how the conclusion came to pass. Yes, but the guy didn't have any choice. Who knows if he's pissed that he pretty much HAD to do it. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Jul 21, 2024 12:45:23 GMT -8
I said in January Biden would step aside due to an illness. It wasn’t because I was guessing it was because it was decided back late last year that he would be removed. Hopefully at some point people wake up to what’s really happening. You need to stop fighting with each other about left or right and take back your country which is leaving both parties and redoing most of the current system.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 21, 2024 13:18:09 GMT -8
There's going to be an incredible Movie/Miniseries in the future, about anything and everything concerning the Presidents and the Candidates since 2016.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 21, 2024 13:38:36 GMT -8
I'd like to credit Joe Biden for putting his country over his personal politics and having the fortitude to step away, even if I hate how the conclusion came to pass. Yes, but the guy didn't have any choice. Who knows if he's pissed that he pretty much HAD to do it. He absolutely had a choice. To say otherwise ignores the reality of the delegates. Not everything needs you to diminish it. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Jul 21, 2024 14:19:46 GMT -8
There is going to be some kind of nomination...Harris and whoever wants to challenge her will be nominated by delegates...akin to a civil service interview for a job...got to interview 10 people...even though we already know who has the job... that's to make it legit and not an anointment.... Let's hope so.
Otherwise: The elite, corporate media, and billionaire donors successfully pressured Biden chosen by Democratic primary voters to drop out because he's down in the polls. Speaks volumes how little they care about voters. |
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