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Post by johneaztec on Nov 6, 2024 10:33:20 GMT -8
I still think JD Vance was a good VP pick for his campaign, and getting Kennedy to pull behind him helped him too. This is all true, and it her picking Walz was a real head scratcher. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 10:39:40 GMT -8
It's good/sad to see that white supremacists/racists/bigots/sexists/homophobs/hateful and the uneducated agree and have no argument with my assessment..... I get it that you, in particular, would jump to the really easy race card excuse, but how about the fact that most human beings felt that Harris was in over her head, and wouldn't do a good job. She went all in with the abortion issue thinking that would do it, also the fact that she was thrown into the fire didn't help. I'm now wondering if Biden wouldn't have been a better choice, but he didn't do himself any favors. The fact that Americans were willing to overlook Trump's faults, tells you how bad of a candidate she was. Unlike myself, most Americans were superficially willing to only look at how the country was going under Trump before Covid, and not the division he brings with it. I hope Trump wears a bullet proof vest every day because unfortunately there's a lot of wackos out there who are probably pretty mad right about now. I pray that he survives his tenure and does a good job. That's all we can hope for. Lol. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 10:40:19 GMT -8
A large segment of the voting population voted for a platform of exclusively hate, racism and division. A global embarrassment. Yes, they are called Democrats, MSNBC, ABC, The View, and CNN. Swing and a miss, cult. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 10:41:14 GMT -8
Then I think you should reevaluate who you think is a good person....because what you're going to see ain't it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 10:41:51 GMT -8
A large segment of the voting population voted for a platform of exclusively hate, racism and division. A global embarrassment. What do you call funding genocide? Both platforms were $#!+. Trump gained 4 points on voters ages 45 and under. People are stupid. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 10:42:56 GMT -8
Trump's win has been called the greatest political comeback American Political History. He survived two assasination attempts, assaults on his finances, constant legal battles and troubles and was repeatedly called “Hitler”. The Senate, Supreme Court and probably the House. There’s your Red Wave. Enjoy it while it destroys our country. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Nov 6, 2024 10:46:20 GMT -8
Harris made a worthy effort and given more time she may have fared better. Shapiro would have been a much better pick than the clown Timmy.
Voters believed that they were worse off under Biden. The border was a huge issue and the perceived weakness of the Biden administration. How did Trump pull it off? Fracking in Pennsylvania, immigration in Arizona, autoworker jobs in Michigan, and no tax tips in Nevada. That was his focus. He also appealed to younger voters. He gained substantial ground with Latinos and Black voters who didn’t vote as they have for other democrats. States that once were considered swing states are not even close now. He won middle America, blue collar workers. Working class voters felt left out, that Harris cared more about abortion and climate change than them. Harris didn’t relate. Harris could not equal Biden’s 2020 numbers among white, non-college educated women, Black males, and among Latinos. Trump wins the popular vote by 5 million and on his way to 312 electoral votes. With the Senate flipping and the House a plus 3 this must be considered as a landslide victory for Republicans. Blame Harris’ loss racists, sexists, misogynist, etc. if that makes you happy, but the bottom-line, Harris was simply the wrong person. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 10:49:45 GMT -8
Harris made a worthy effort and given more time she may have fared better. Shapiro would have been a much better pick than the clown Timmy. Voters believed that they were worse off under Biden. The border was a huge issue and the perceived weakness of the Biden administration. How did Trump pull it off? Fracking in Pennsylvania, immigration in Arizona, autoworker jobs in Michigan, and no tax tips in Nevada. That was his focus. He also appealed to younger voters. He gained substantial ground with Latinos and Black voters who didn’t vote as they have for other democrats. States that once were considered swing states are not even close now. He won middle America, blue collar workers. Working class voters felt left out, that Harris cared more about abortion and climate change than them. Harris didn’t relate. Harris could not equal Biden’s 2020 numbers among white, non-college educated women, Black males, and among Latinos. Trump wins the popular vote by 5 million and on his way to 312 electoral votes. With the Senate flipping and the House a plus 3 this must be considered as a landslide victory for Republicans. Blame Harris’ loss racists, sexists, misogynist, etc. if that makes you happy, but the bottom-line, Harris was simply the wrong person. The wrong gender. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 6, 2024 10:55:01 GMT -8
I still think JD Vance was a good VP pick for his campaign, and getting Kennedy to pull behind him helped him too. This is all true, and it her picking Walz was a real head scratcher. I don't know if it was a 'head-scratcher' - it wasn't her biggest issue. Her entire campaign felt vanilla though, I'll say that. It was like, if you liked Biden vote for me. Vote for me so a fascist doesn't win. But no, I don't want to talk about Gaza. It was the most vanilla uninspired campaign possible, that didn't appeal to progressives or young voters, and really appealed primarily to moderate older Democrats. It felt like she just expected to win the youth, progressive, minority votes without actually campaigning for them. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 6, 2024 11:01:08 GMT -8
I get it that you, in particular, would jump to the really easy race card excuse, but how about the fact that most human beings felt that Harris was in over her head, and wouldn't do a good job. She went all in with the abortion issue thinking that would do it, also the fact that she was thrown into the fire didn't help. I'm now wondering if Biden wouldn't have been a better choice, but he didn't do himself any favors. The fact that Americans were willing to overlook Trump's faults, tells you how bad of a candidate she was. Unlike myself, most Americans were superficially willing to only look at how the country was going under Trump before Covid, and not the division he brings with it. I hope Trump wears a bullet proof vest every day because unfortunately there's a lot of wackos out there who are probably pretty mad right about now. I pray that he survives his tenure and does a good job. That's all we can hope for. Lol. It's not really funny, but that's you're prerogative. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 6, 2024 11:04:17 GMT -8
This is all true, and it her picking Walz was a real head scratcher. I don't know if it was a 'head-scratcher' - it wasn't her biggest issue. Her entire campaign felt vanilla though, I'll say that. It was like, if you liked Biden vote for me. Vote for me so a fascist doesn't win. But no, I don't want to talk about Gaza. It was the most vanilla uninspired campaign possible, that didn't appeal to progressives or young voters, and really appealed primarily to moderate older Democrats. It felt like she just expected to win the youth, progressive, minority votes without actually campaigning for them. You nailed it. She told you over and over how bad Trump is, but never really gave you a definitive plan of hers when she's in office. I absolutely agree that she felt like she could really rely on the youth, minority and womens vote to overwhelm the vote. Didn't happen. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 11:04:50 GMT -8
It's not really funny, but that's you're prerogative. No, it's baseless speculation and then pandering to psychopathy at the end. People don't care about what happened years ago, the average voter, like I said months ago, has a three foot world view. They care about what's happening to them now...and that's it. People still think Trump's economy was better (It wasn't) and people somehow still trust him on issues of importance (when he should have been disqualified from running.) It's pathetic. The country is clearly shifting right in many capacities, but there's going to be a whole lot of regret sooner rather than later. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Nov 6, 2024 11:05:04 GMT -8
This is all true, and it her picking Walz was a real head scratcher. I don't know if it was a 'head-scratcher' - it wasn't her biggest issue. Her entire campaign felt vanilla though, I'll say that. It was like, if you liked Biden vote for me. Vote for me so a fascist doesn't win. But no, I don't want to talk about Gaza. It was the most vanilla uninspired campaign possible, that didn't appeal to progressives or young voters, and really appealed primarily to moderate older Democrats. It felt like she just expected to win the youth, progressive, minority votes without actually campaigning for them. It was a head-scratcher for me. She already had Minnesota, but she may have won Pennsylvania and the election with Shaprio. Her biggest problem was herself she just didn’t relate. That’s not on gender that’s just as you said, "uninspiring." And I'll weak. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 6, 2024 11:07:05 GMT -8
The Democrats do better when they have people run that aren't the 'safe pick' - when it's an inspiring candidate that unites progressives and moderates.
Hilary Clinton was the 'safe pick'. Harris was the 'safe pick'. Staying with Biden for way, way to long through his dementia was the 'safe pick'.
Being uninspired leads to lower turnout. You have to actually appeal to your party, not just the older, moderate half of the party.
Trump did that. Harris didn't. That's why Vance was a good pick. He appealed to the entire Republican party.
That's why getting Kennedy was such a coup. Kennedy + Vance = better numbers for the Under 45 vote.
Kennedy would have had a better chance of winning as the Democratic nominee then Harris.
The Democratic party leadership is horrible.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 11:09:20 GMT -8
Trump made gains across multiple demographics and increased his voter share...but lost three million votes.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 11:10:31 GMT -8
The Democrats do better when they have people run that aren't the 'safe pick' - when it's an inspiring candidate that unites progressives and moderates. Hilary Clinton was the 'safe pick'. Harris was the 'safe pick'. Staying with Biden for way, way to long through his dementia was the 'safe pick'. Being uninspired leads to lower turnout. You have to actually appeal to your party, not just the older, moderate half of the party. Trump did that. Harris didn't. That's why Vance was a good pick. He appealed to the entire Republican party. That's why getting Kennedy was such a coup. Kennedy + Vance = better numbers for the Under 45 vote. Kennedy would have had a better chance of winning as the Democratic nominee then Harris. The Democratic party leadership is horrible. Man, you are so far off base you might as well be in the dugout. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Nov 6, 2024 11:12:35 GMT -8
Then I think you should reevaluate who you think is a good person....because what you're going to see ain't it. Idk who you think you are but I don't need a lesson from you on my judgement. Thanks though |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 6, 2024 11:15:05 GMT -8
Then I think you should reevaluate who you think is a good person....because what you're going to see ain't it. I don't need a lesson from you on my judgement but thanks Sorry, but I don't believe Kash Patel and his ilk are "good people." I know men who fought, were critically wounded or died under the command of James Mattis. Trump loyalists can't hold a candle. |
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Post by sdsuball on Nov 6, 2024 11:15:53 GMT -8
I don't know if it was a 'head-scratcher' - it wasn't her biggest issue. Her entire campaign felt vanilla though, I'll say that. It was like, if you liked Biden vote for me. Vote for me so a fascist doesn't win. But no, I don't want to talk about Gaza. It was the most vanilla uninspired campaign possible, that didn't appeal to progressives or young voters, and really appealed primarily to moderate older Democrats. It felt like she just expected to win the youth, progressive, minority votes without actually campaigning for them. It was a head-scratcher for me. She already had Minnesota, but she may have won Pennsylvania and the election with Shaprio. Her biggest problem was herself she just didn’t relate. That’s not on gender that’s just as you said, "uninspiring." And I'll weak. Valid point. I think she would have better going with Shapiro if her foreign policy position was 'we're doing the right thing in supporting Israel, I'm 100% behind Biden and what our administration has done. I also think that she would have been better by saying 'we need to take a harder line with Israel, we need to start withdrawing aid for them' and then going with a progressive VP pick who was staunchly against the war. Either of those options would have been better then what she did from a strategic perspective. But I think from the Harris perspective, her position as VP may have made it difficult for her to take a more progressive, harder-line against Israel position. This is really why the Democrats needed to have an actual open primary with Biden stepping down beforehand. The Biden situation left the Dems hands tied. |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Nov 6, 2024 11:17:05 GMT -8
Yes, they are called Democrats, MSNBC, ABC, The View, and CNN. Swing and a miss, cult. Look in the mirror....denial sucks for you. Not sure of your age. However, based on your posts, you might be too old to figure out the truth. |
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