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Post by azson on Aug 6, 2024 15:46:14 GMT -8
Why Kamala Harris chose Tim Walz over Josh Shapiro as her running mateWith her surprise choice of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as her running mate Tuesday, Vice President Kamala Harris made a direct play to the Democratic base − not the electoral map − while betting that his plainspoken style will appeal to working-class voters in the Midwest...momentum for Walz built in recent days from the left while progressive activists raised concerns about Shapiro's stance on Israel...In the end, Walz became the choice more likely to excite, not agitate, the Democratic base, even if he doesn't hail from a swing state like Shapiro.www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/06/why-harris-chose-tim-walz-not-josh-shapiro/74684641007/
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 6, 2024 15:57:19 GMT -8
Walz is cut from the same crazy liberal cloth as Harris. He does very little in terms of capturing the four must win states for both sides. MI, WI, PN, GA.
This race and the Electoral College is still (at this point in the campaign) Trump’s to win.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 15:59:57 GMT -8
Walz is cut from the same crazy liberal cloth as Harris. He does very little in terms of capturing the four must win states for both sides. MI, WI, PN, GA. This race and the Electoral College is still (at this point in the campaign) Trump’s to win. We know. But no. At BEST right now, it's a literal tossup.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 16:14:56 GMT -8
Walz is cut from the same crazy liberal cloth as Harris. He does very little in terms of capturing the four must win states for both sides. MI, WI, PN, GA. This race and the Electoral College is still (at this point in the campaign) Trump’s to win. www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-modelNate Silver has Harris by 2% nationally. Ahead in Pennsylvania, ahead in Michigan, ahead in Wisconsin. Higher quality polls have Harris in front in most of the swing states, albeit within the margin of error. Trump is currently -101 to +105 on the betting market, a literal coin flip. But if you understand trends and historical angles, he needs help to win, as things stand right now.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2024 16:49:47 GMT -8
Yes, like I said, I don't think either VP candidate helps swing a battleground state. I think, like you do, that Shapiro would have helped the most. As bad as some say that Vance was a bad pick by Trump, I think not picking Shapiro was just as bad, or worse. The Republicans are rejoicing with that pick. They seem to have a little more vigor, so to speak, from what I've noticed. It also seems to me that the Kamala hype is dying down, especially after that pick. We'll see. Walz will absolutely help in both Wisconsin and Michigan. The blue wall is largely why he was chosen, to appeal to those voters, as the "every man" type of candidate. No idea what you're talking about after that. Watch the Pennsylvania rally going on right now and tell me the hype is dying down. Or the 47,000 ticket requests in Michigan in 24 hours. I know why she chose him, but what I'm saying is that that won't swing a state. Shapiro was the best opportunity to swing a state for them. He would have had the biggest impact. You've said that yourself, as well, and I agree. The Republicans are rejoicing that pick of hers. They now have more fodder. You can choose not to see that, but they were extremely worried that she was going to pick Shapiro, and when she didn't, they were very happy. The Republican side was pretty flat in terms of hype, but now they have a little more hop in their step with the Walz pick being made.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 6, 2024 17:02:14 GMT -8
Walz is cut from the same crazy liberal cloth as Harris. He does very little in terms of capturing the four must win states for both sides. MI, WI, PN, GA. This race and the Electoral College is still (at this point in the campaign) Trump’s to win. "does very little in terms of capturing" ok, let's take Georgia. trump insulted the popular Governor...and his wife! trump helped more in Georgia...than any Dem could.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2024 17:20:34 GMT -8
Yes, like I said, I don't think either VP candidate helps swing a battleground state. I think, like you do, that Shapiro would have helped the most. As bad as some say that Vance was a bad pick by Trump, I think not picking Shapiro was just as bad, or worse. The Republicans are rejoicing with that pick. They seem to have a little more vigor, so to speak, from what I've noticed. It also seems to me that the Kamala hype is dying down, especially after that pick. We'll see. Walz will absolutely help in both Wisconsin and Michigan. The blue wall is largely why he was chosen, to appeal to those voters, as the "every man" type of candidate. No idea what you're talking about after that. Watch the Pennsylvania rally going on right now and tell me the hype is dying down. Or the 47,000 ticket requests in Michigan in 24 hours. Read this article, especially when they start talking about Walz and Shapiro and who will help, or not help. www.cnn.com/2024/08/06/politics/math-behind-harris-walz-vp-pick/index.html
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 17:23:45 GMT -8
Walz will absolutely help in both Wisconsin and Michigan. The blue wall is largely why he was chosen, to appeal to those voters, as the "every man" type of candidate. No idea what you're talking about after that. Watch the Pennsylvania rally going on right now and tell me the hype is dying down. Or the 47,000 ticket requests in Michigan in 24 hours. I know why she chose him, but what I'm saying is that that won't swing a state. Shapiro was the best opportunity to swing a state for them. He would have had the biggest impact. You've said that yourself, as well, and I agree. The Republicans are rejoicing that pick of hers. They now have more fodder. You can choose not to see that, but they were extremely worried that she was going to pick Shapiro, and when she didn't, they were very happy. The Republican side was pretty flat in terms of hype, but now they have a little more hop in their step with the Walz pick being made. That was true in Pennsylvania, yes. Not necessarily true in other states for a variety of reasons. Due to how close the vote is in both Michigan and Wisconsin (and how similarly those votes are demographically) it stands to reason that Walz will benefit the Harris ticket in Wisconsin and Michigan. Those states will overlap in the blue collar districts, to be certain. I think you're buying into some silly rhetoric from some silly sources. It's their job to project confidence, but Walz is seen as a unifier of sorts and I have no doubt the Republicans would discredit that to their own end. When they have no platform to run on, that becomes more apparent.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 17:32:10 GMT -8
Walz will absolutely help in both Wisconsin and Michigan. The blue wall is largely why he was chosen, to appeal to those voters, as the "every man" type of candidate. No idea what you're talking about after that. Watch the Pennsylvania rally going on right now and tell me the hype is dying down. Or the 47,000 ticket requests in Michigan in 24 hours. Read this article, especially when they start talking about Walz and Shapiro and who will help, or not help. www.cnn.com/2024/08/06/politics/math-behind-harris-walz-vp-pick/index.htmlYes, I've seen it. I don't agree with using midterm data to extrapolate out and draw useful conclusions. The voter turnout isn't the same, nor are the circumstances.
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Post by sdsuball on Aug 6, 2024 20:46:33 GMT -8
Walz will absolutely help in both Wisconsin and Michigan. The blue wall is largely why he was chosen, to appeal to those voters, as the "every man" type of candidate. No idea what you're talking about after that. Watch the Pennsylvania rally going on right now and tell me the hype is dying down. Or the 47,000 ticket requests in Michigan in 24 hours. I know why she chose him, but what I'm saying is that that won't swing a state. Shapiro was the best opportunity to swing a state for them. He would have had the biggest impact. You've said that yourself, as well, and I agree. The Republicans are rejoicing that pick of hers. They now have more fodder. You can choose not to see that, but they were extremely worried that she was going to pick Shapiro, and when she didn't, they were very happy. The Republican side was pretty flat in terms of hype, but now they have a little more hop in their step with the Walz pick being made. One state doesn't win an election. Voter turnout among young Democrats and Independents is important for all of the swing states. Shapiro was a divisive pick in a polarized election, Walz is a unifer that can help pull together a fractured Democratic party.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 21:00:14 GMT -8
I know why she chose him, but what I'm saying is that that won't swing a state. Shapiro was the best opportunity to swing a state for them. He would have had the biggest impact. You've said that yourself, as well, and I agree. The Republicans are rejoicing that pick of hers. They now have more fodder. You can choose not to see that, but they were extremely worried that she was going to pick Shapiro, and when she didn't, they were very happy. The Republican side was pretty flat in terms of hype, but now they have a little more hop in their step with the Walz pick being made. One state doesn't win an election. Voter turnout among young Democrats and Independents is important for all of the swing states. Shapiro was a divisive pick in a polarized election, Walz is a unifer that can help pull together a fractured Democratic party. Pennsylvania won't win the election outright, but it's pretty much a must win for both sides.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2024 21:18:01 GMT -8
I know why she chose him, but what I'm saying is that that won't swing a state. Shapiro was the best opportunity to swing a state for them. He would have had the biggest impact. You've said that yourself, as well, and I agree. The Republicans are rejoicing that pick of hers. They now have more fodder. You can choose not to see that, but they were extremely worried that she was going to pick Shapiro, and when she didn't, they were very happy. The Republican side was pretty flat in terms of hype, but now they have a little more hop in their step with the Walz pick being made. One state doesn't win an election. Voter turnout among young Democrats and Independents is important for all of the swing states. Shapiro was a divisive pick in a polarized election, Walz is a unifer that can help pull together a fractured Democratic party. Yes, one of the reasons she chose Walz is because it wasn't a disrupter. I think Pennsylvania is important enough to put a high emphasis on it, but I can understand why she picked Walz for the reason you stated, and I just stated. Hopefully, for her, and the Democratic party, it doesn't become a "Missed moment" so to speak. Maybe we'll never know, unless Kamala loses Pennsylvania by a narrow margin to lose the election.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 21:32:21 GMT -8
Trump is almost guaranteed to lose the popular vote, but the concern as we get closer is on the battleground states and their plans to halt certification of votes or deny ballots outright. Georgia and North Carolina are already knocking on the door.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 7, 2024 9:02:36 GMT -8
Shapiro would have been a better choice. There must be something in his background several decision making democrats didn’t like, I wonder what that could be. The amount of lying, mass disenfranchisement of primary voters, media gaslighting are at unprecedented levels…..even for the Democratic Party. This generation of democrat politicians are so crooked……. “how crooked are they?” When they finally die off, they won’t be buried…..they will be screwed into the ground.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2024 9:13:24 GMT -8
Shapiro would have been a better choice. There must be something in his background several decision making democrats didn’t like, I wonder what that could be. The amount of lying, mass disenfranchisement of primary voters, media gaslighting are at unprecedented levels…..even for the Democratic Party. This generation of democrat politicians are so crooked……. “how crooked are they?” When they finally die off, they won’t be buried…..they will be screwed into the ground. Ah, yes. The ever-present media crutch. Old reliable. The irony. Dead. I wonder if the panic is setting in.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Aug 7, 2024 10:14:32 GMT -8
Shapiro would have been a better choice. There must be something in his background several decision making democrats didn’t like, I wonder what that could be. The amount of lying, mass disenfranchisement of primary voters, media gaslighting are at unprecedented levels…..even for the Democratic Party. This generation of democrat politicians are so crooked……. “how crooked are they?” When they finally die off, they won’t be buried…..they will be screwed into the ground. A Trump supporter falsely claiming that the Democrats are lying. The irony is so ironic. 😂
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Post by aztecnails on Aug 7, 2024 10:43:08 GMT -8
The government or Congress can't limit speech by 1st Amendment abridging of free speech standards. In his own words, walz says no right to free speech if the government decides it as a misinformation or hate speech. The government and Congress abuses power by doing so. Also, harris and the media that supports her with trying to rewrite history by saying she was never the border czar when even the liberal media called her that title. Parents have the right to decide what is in the best interest of their own children by refusing gender affirming care for minors. walz supports mutilating children through gender change without parents approving and that a majority of parents disagree with the walz scam. Do not vote for harris/walz.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 7, 2024 10:53:29 GMT -8
Shapiro would have been a better choice. There must be something in his background several decision making democrats didn’t like, I wonder what that could be. The amount of lying, mass disenfranchisement of primary voters, media gaslighting are at unprecedented levels…..even for the Democratic Party. This generation of democrat politicians are so crooked……. “how crooked are they?” When they finally die off, they won’t be buried…..they will be screwed into the ground. A Trump supporter falsely claiming that the Democrats are lying. The irony is so ironic. 😂 You offer zero proof, just your own anecdotal opinion. I feel like I’m spanking a puppy for making a mess on the kitchen floor. It is truly sad when we have to question the truthfulness of the Secret Service, but alas that seems to be the norm for this administration and their DEI staffers. Never mind the Biden dementia mass coverup. Never mind the obvious incompetence in the Trump assasination attempt. Those stories cannot be unseen, but the Dem controlled media who is pushing the Kamala coup will definitely try to make the voting public forget about these negative incidents by burying them. They will hide their dullard candidate in the basement and once again turn on history’s most powerful propaganda machine on full intensity to achieve their political goals. No wonder we have so many brainwashed lemmings in this country.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 7, 2024 11:10:38 GMT -8
A Trump supporter falsely claiming that the Democrats are lying. The irony is so ironic. 😂 You offer zero proof, just your own anecdotal opinion. I feel like I’m spanking a puppy for making a mess on the kitchen floor. It is truly sad when we have to question the truthfulness of the Secret Service, but alas that seems to be the norm for this administration and their DEI staffers. Never mind the Biden dementia mass coverup. Never mind the obvious incompetence in the Trump assasination attempt. Those stories cannot be unseen, but the Dem controlled media who is pushing the Kamala coup will definitely try to make the voting public forget about these negative incidents by burying them. They will hide their dullard candidate in the basement and once again turn on history’s most powerful propaganda machine on full intensity to achieve their political goals. No wonder we have so many brainwashed lemmings in this country. YOU have offered no proof, though. And it's on YOU to provw what is happening, since YOU are the one slinging accusations. And you...are brainwashed. You're just repeating what Fox is spouting.
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Post by aztecmusician on Aug 7, 2024 11:33:46 GMT -8
You offer zero proof, just your own anecdotal opinion. I feel like I’m spanking a puppy for making a mess on the kitchen floor. It is truly sad when we have to question the truthfulness of the Secret Service, but alas that seems to be the norm for this administration and their DEI staffers. Never mind the Biden dementia mass coverup. Never mind the obvious incompetence in the Trump assasination attempt. Those stories cannot be unseen, but the Dem controlled media who is pushing the Kamala coup will definitely try to make the voting public forget about these negative incidents by burying them. They will hide their dullard candidate in the basement and once again turn on history’s most powerful propaganda machine on full intensity to achieve their political goals. No wonder we have so many brainwashed lemmings in this country. YOU have offered no proof, though. And it's on YOU to provw what is happening, since YOU are the one slinging accusations. And you...are brainwashed. You're just repeating what Fox is spouting. I’m pretty certain Biden’s dementia and the USSS botching the protection of President Trump is COMMON KNOWLEDGE by now. We have all seen the footage from both the debate and the Trump rally with our own eyes. Enough to get a clear picture without some liberal hack journalists spinning the stories into whatever agenda they choose. www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-hawley-reveals-new-whistleblower-claims-secret-service-failures-trump-rally-scared-deathwww.al.com/politics/2024/07/dementia-ridden-joe-biden-not-running-the-country-tommy-tuberville-claims.htmlBy the way, it has been clearly demonstrated that you are the one who has difficulty understanding events you see with your own eyes. Do you still think the attempt on Trump’s life was staged?
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