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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 11:39:50 GMT -8
Yeah, I've got to take a break from this site. Honestly, it's not healthy. All these claims about republicans being racist, hateful and authoritarian, but at least on this site, the most racist is bnastyaztecs, the most hateful, aztec panter, and the most ideologically authoritarian aztecryan. It's not good. I really do wish you well, including those listed above. I hope you have beautiful, meaningful, lives filled with joy. I hope you are a blessing to everyone you come in contact with and you live in peace. And lastly, I hope that in the name of good, you do no harm. Everything....is....a..... projection. Authoritarian? Me? Do you know what that word even means? Yes, someone who has been discriminated against throughout life and has worked hard to codify ADA in various settings so people can enjoy their civil rights is... authoritarian. I support: Equal rights protections, same sex marriage, bodily autonomy for women, voting rights, expanded background checks for gun purchasers....VERY authoritarian. Maybe look in a mirror? |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 11:40:48 GMT -8
I don't think it will matter much come election day, but I think both candidates picked pretty much mirror images of themselves. I question both candidates picks on whether it will help them in key battleground states. It's going to a fascinating, close race. I'm not the biggest fan of Walz, but this is a bridge too far, even for you. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2024 12:03:09 GMT -8
I don't think it will matter much come election day, but I think both candidates picked pretty much mirror images of themselves. I question both candidates picks on whether it will help them in key battleground states. It's going to a fascinating, close race. I'm not the biggest fan of Walz, but this is a bridge too far, even for you. What part is a bridge too far? |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Aug 6, 2024 12:11:16 GMT -8
Nah...he didn't really want it...whatever he and you have to tell yourself...Harris didn't want the $#!^ show that comes with him...and it was only lip service that she "considered" him.... Lol. Okay. If Walz fails to capture PA, you're going to feel silly. It's not up to Walz to "capture" PA...it's Harris'...he's there to appease/comfort independent/Never-Trumper white folks that they haven't been totally replaced...that they still have a hand on the wheel...he also delivers the base by being a progressive...this election turnout is the key...not converting conservatives into Dem voters...that's what Hillary tried/failed to do...she put too much time, money and effort into folks who were never ever going to vote for her...instead of those who would...lost by 12,000 votes..... |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 12:13:35 GMT -8
I'm not the biggest fan of Walz, but this is a bridge too far, even for you. What part is a bridge too far? All of it. Walz's persona and pro-union stance will help with the laborers in Michigan and Wisconsin, a sector that's drifted away from Biden over the last year or two. While I question whether he can help carry Pennsylvania at this moment, there's literally nothing that JD Vance has that can unify the Midwest. He's woefully inexperienced, incredibly unpopular and the lack of a platform in any of his speeches signifies that. There's no record to run on, it's just a steady stream of attacks. The attacks on Walz have already started....because that's all they have. Walz, in a direct comparison to Vance? Not close. That wall of states with Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin is about blue-collar work ethic, toughness and rugged individual belief. Vance brings none of that to the Midwest. Vance is MUCH more in line with Trump's belief patterns than Walz is to Harris's, strictly comparing the two. Ideologically, Vance is the barking dog, Walz can run on his own record. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 12:14:25 GMT -8
Lol. Okay. If Walz fails to capture PA, you're going to feel silly. It's not up to Walz to "capture" PA...it's Harris'...he's there to appease/comfort independent/Never-Trumper white folks that they haven't been totally replaced...that they still have a hand on the wheel...he also delivers the base by being a progressive...this election turnout is the key...not converting conservatives into Dem voters...that's what Hillary tried/failed to do...she put too much time, money and effort into folks who were never ever going to vote for her...instead of those who would...lost by 12,000 votes..... Shapiro would have made that a moot point, though, is what I'm saying. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Aug 6, 2024 12:23:56 GMT -8
It's not up to Walz to "capture" PA...it's Harris'...he's there to appease/comfort independent/Never-Trumper white folks that they haven't been totally replaced...that they still have a hand on the wheel...he also delivers the base by being a progressive...this election turnout is the key...not converting conservatives into Dem voters...that's what Hillary tried/failed to do...she put too much time, money and effort into folks who were never ever going to vote for her...instead of those who would...lost by 12,000 votes..... Shapiro would have made that a moot point, though, is what I'm saying. Well...we'll never ever know...because he wasn't deemed by those who know what they're doing...qualified for the job...so...let's move on..... |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 12:26:59 GMT -8
Shapiro would have made that a moot point, though, is what I'm saying. Well...we'll never ever know...because he wasn't deemed by those who know what they're doing...qualified for the job...so...let's move on..... It sounds like he pulled himself out. Last thing you want is someone who isn't fully engaged with this much at stake. And yes, I'll be behind Walz no matter what. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Aug 6, 2024 13:07:53 GMT -8
I’m not sure who this Walz guy is. He’s never been on my radar screen, but I will be doing research and not a pica like some here. No matter what I’ll think for myself instead of being lead around by a nose ring.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 13:14:46 GMT -8
I’m not sure who this Walz guy is. He’s never been on my radar screen, but I will be doing research and not a pica like some here. No matter what I’ll think for myself instead of being lead around by a nose ring. Clearly a strength. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Aug 6, 2024 13:31:05 GMT -8
Well...we'll never ever know...because he wasn't deemed by those who know what they're doing...qualified for the job...so...let's move on..... It sounds like he pulled himself out. Last thing you want is someone who isn't fully engaged with this much at stake. And yes, I'll be behind Walz no matter what. I'm sure Shapiro will also do all he can to make sure Harris gets elected in his state...win...win!! |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2024 13:41:12 GMT -8
What part is a bridge too far? All of it. Walz's persona and pro-union stance will help with the laborers in Michigan and Wisconsin, a sector that's drifted away from Biden over the last year or two. While I question whether he can help carry Pennsylvania at this moment, there's literally nothing that JD Vance has that can unify the Midwest. He's woefully inexperienced, incredibly unpopular and the lack of a platform in any of his speeches signifies that. There's no record to run on, it's just a steady stream of attacks. The attacks on Walz have already started....because that's all they have. Walz, in a direct comparison to Vance? Not close. That wall of states with Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin is about blue-collar work ethic, toughness and rugged individual belief. Vance brings none of that to the Midwest. Vance is MUCH more in line with Trump's belief patterns than Walz is to Harris's, strictly comparing the two. Ideologically, Vance is the barking dog, Walz can run on his own record. Remember, it doesn't matter. It's Pennsylvania that really matters, right? |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 13:49:42 GMT -8
All of it. Walz's persona and pro-union stance will help with the laborers in Michigan and Wisconsin, a sector that's drifted away from Biden over the last year or two. While I question whether he can help carry Pennsylvania at this moment, there's literally nothing that JD Vance has that can unify the Midwest. He's woefully inexperienced, incredibly unpopular and the lack of a platform in any of his speeches signifies that. There's no record to run on, it's just a steady stream of attacks. The attacks on Walz have already started....because that's all they have. Walz, in a direct comparison to Vance? Not close. That wall of states with Minnesota, Michigan and Wisconsin is about blue-collar work ethic, toughness and rugged individual belief. Vance brings none of that to the Midwest. Vance is MUCH more in line with Trump's belief patterns than Walz is to Harris's, strictly comparing the two. Ideologically, Vance is the barking dog, Walz can run on his own record. Remember, it doesn't matter. It's Pennsylvania that really matters, right? That's a separate argument, clearly. Since I'm sure this will get misconstrued 186 different ways, Harris winning Pennsylvania is referring to current election forecasts in swing states. It's not her only direct path, but it's the one that matters the most. If she is able to flip a Georgia or a North Carolina, things look dramatically different. |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2024 14:00:44 GMT -8
Remember, it doesn't matter. It's Pennsylvania that really matters, right? That's a separate argument, clearly. Since I'm sure this will get misconstrued 186 different ways, Harris winning Pennsylvania is referring to current election forecasts in swing states. It's not her only direct path, but it's the one that matters the most. If she is able to flip a Georgia or a North Carolina, things look dramatically different. I said that because you've been pounding that home for over a week now, and more so in the last few days. You've said that nothing matters if she doesn't win Pennsylvania. It's ok to pivot, but I also think it's going to come down to Pennsylvania, since I don't think the VP selection will help flip other Midwest States. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 14:11:33 GMT -8
That's a separate argument, clearly. Since I'm sure this will get misconstrued 186 different ways, Harris winning Pennsylvania is referring to current election forecasts in swing states. It's not her only direct path, but it's the one that matters the most. If she is able to flip a Georgia or a North Carolina, things look dramatically different. I said that because you've been pounding that home for over a week now, and more so in the last few days. You've said that nothing matters if she doesn't win Pennsylvania. It's ok to pivot, but I also think it's going to come down to Pennsylvania, since I don't think the VP selection will help flip other Midwest States. I'm not pivoting. Your post referred to Vance and Walz being the same in the battleground states. That is not remotely accurate, given the demographic makeup of Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan. Walz's background will be a slam dunk in his two neighboring states, Vance will flounder. Walz can run on his gubernatorial record, Vance has 18 months of Senate experience and has done.... nothing, really. |
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Post by azson on Aug 6, 2024 14:28:52 GMT -8
It sounds like he pulled himself out. Last thing you want is someone who isn't fully engaged with this much at stake. And yes, I'll be behind Walz no matter what. I'm sure Shapiro will also do all he can to make sure Harris gets elected in his state...win...win!! Win, win, win...cut down Trump! |
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Post by azson on Aug 6, 2024 14:48:26 GMT -8
Historic effect of Walz being tapped: MN Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan becomes first ever Native American (Ojibwe) woman to serve as a U.S. governor.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Aug 6, 2024 15:03:07 GMT -8
Historic effect of Walz being tapped: MN Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan becomes first ever Native American (Ojibwe) woman to serve as a U.S. governor. Trump: "Yesterday she was Chinese!" |
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 6, 2024 15:05:34 GMT -8
I said that because you've been pounding that home for over a week now, and more so in the last few days. You've said that nothing matters if she doesn't win Pennsylvania. It's ok to pivot, but I also think it's going to come down to Pennsylvania, since I don't think the VP selection will help flip other Midwest States. I'm not pivoting. Your post referred to Vance and Walz being the same in the battleground states. That is not remotely accurate, given the demographic makeup of Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan. Walz's background will be a slam dunk in his two neighboring states, Vance will flounder. Walz can run on his gubernatorial record, Vance has 18 months of Senate experience and has done.... nothing, really. Yes, like I said, I don't think either VP candidate helps swing a battleground state. I think, like you do, that Shapiro would have helped the most. As bad as some say that Vance was a bad pick by Trump, I think not picking Shapiro was just as bad, or worse. The Republicans are rejoicing with that pick. They seem to have a little more vigor, so to speak, from what I've noticed. It also seems to me that the Kamala hype is dying down, especially after that pick. We'll see. |
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 6, 2024 15:38:06 GMT -8
I'm not pivoting. Your post referred to Vance and Walz being the same in the battleground states. That is not remotely accurate, given the demographic makeup of Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan. Walz's background will be a slam dunk in his two neighboring states, Vance will flounder. Walz can run on his gubernatorial record, Vance has 18 months of Senate experience and has done.... nothing, really. Yes, like I said, I don't think either VP candidate helps swing a battleground state. I think, like you do, that Shapiro would have helped the most. As bad as some say that Vance was a bad pick by Trump, I think not picking Shapiro was just as bad, or worse. The Republicans are rejoicing with that pick. They seem to have a little more vigor, so to speak, from what I've noticed. It also seems to me that the Kamala hype is dying down, especially after that pick. We'll see. Walz will absolutely help in both Wisconsin and Michigan. The blue wall is largely why he was chosen, to appeal to those voters, as the "every man" type of candidate. No idea what you're talking about after that. Watch the Pennsylvania rally going on right now and tell me the hype is dying down. Or the 47,000 ticket requests in Michigan in 24 hours. |
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