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Post by North County Aztec on Jul 15, 2024 12:22:30 GMT -8
Trump selects J.D. Vance from Ohio as his running mate
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 15, 2024 12:29:44 GMT -8
Trump selects J.D. Vance from Ohio as his running mate Kamala is going to show him who the DEI/affirmative action nominee is when they debate...talk about unqualified for the job.....
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 12:30:29 GMT -8
Trump selects J.D. Vance from Ohio as his running mate Kamala is going to show him who the DEI/affirmative action nominee is when they debate...talk about unqualified for the job..... The least experienced VP we've seen in modern times.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 12:59:53 GMT -8
Have to imagine the Biden camp is pretty happy with the selection.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 15, 2024 13:02:45 GMT -8
Trump selects J.D. Vance from Ohio as his running mate Kamala is going to show him who the DEI/affirmative action nominee is when they debate...talk about unqualified for the job..... He's a very accomplished guy. I'm not sure how well he'll do in the debate, but it'll be interesting.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 15, 2024 13:06:30 GMT -8
Who wrote this...I...aztecryan...or J.D. Vance? “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “ We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messages
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 15, 2024 13:15:03 GMT -8
Kamala is going to show him who the DEI/affirmative action nominee is when they debate...talk about unqualified for the job..... He's a very accomplished guy. I'm not sure how well he'll do in the debate, but it'll be interesting. Harris is going to curb stomp him....
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 13:23:35 GMT -8
Kamala is going to show him who the DEI/affirmative action nominee is when they debate...talk about unqualified for the job..... He's a very accomplished guy. I'm not sure how well he'll do in the debate, but it'll be interesting. ....What.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 15, 2024 13:27:11 GMT -8
He's a very accomplished guy. I'm not sure how well he'll do in the debate, but it'll be interesting. ....What. Read it again then....
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 13:31:49 GMT -8
He's not, particularly in the arena that matters...politics.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 15, 2024 13:32:30 GMT -8
He's not, particularly in the arena that matters...politics. Are you saying he's not an accomplished guy? Ok, just read the other part. That's why I said it will be interesting to see how well he does. Is he a good debater?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 13:47:25 GMT -8
He's not, particularly in the arena that matters...politics. Are you saying he's not an accomplished guy? Ok, just read the other part. That's why I said it will be interesting to see how well he does. Is he a good debater? In politics? He's a junior senator from a safe Trump state. It's about the least surprising pick he could have chosen. Vance won't win over moderates, he won't win over women, he's the pick for one specific reason and it's to continue the MAGA agenda in a youthful perspective. He called Trump "America's Hitler" at one point. I have never seen him debate, but I've seen him stumble in interviews continuously. Harris will probably eat him alive.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 15, 2024 15:39:51 GMT -8
Are you saying he's not an accomplished guy? Ok, just read the other part. That's why I said it will be interesting to see how well he does. Is he a good debater? In politics? He's a junior senator from a safe Trump state. It's about the least surprising pick he could have chosen. Vance won't win over moderates, he won't win over women, he's the pick for one specific reason and it's to continue the MAGA agenda in a youthful perspective. He called Trump "America's Hitler" at one point. I have never seen him debate, but I've seen him stumble in interviews continuously. Harris will probably eat him alive. Vance will do fine as Trump's running mate. While Ohio's Senator, he well knows the issues of the Rust Belt and that area encompasses three of the key swing states. And as far as Harris is concerned, the VP debate will include discussions of her performance as the Biden Admin's "Immigration Czar", so there is no way she will be eating like a New Guinea cannibal ![:rolleyes](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/4N3y21LHkMeUS7tigeMu.gif) .
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 15:47:33 GMT -8
In politics? He's a junior senator from a safe Trump state. It's about the least surprising pick he could have chosen. Vance won't win over moderates, he won't win over women, he's the pick for one specific reason and it's to continue the MAGA agenda in a youthful perspective. He called Trump "America's Hitler" at one point. I have never seen him debate, but I've seen him stumble in interviews continuously. Harris will probably eat him alive. Vance will do fine as Trump's running mate. While Ohio's Senator, he well knows the issues of the Rust Belt and that area encompasses three of the key swing states. And as far as Harris is concerned, the VP debate will include discussions of her performance as the Biden Admin's "Immigration Czar", so there is no way she will be eating like a New Guinea cannibal ![:rolleyes](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/4N3y21LHkMeUS7tigeMu.gif) . He's also an election denier, someone who hates women and supports a federal abortion ban. The border crisis is played out.
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Post by Den60 on Jul 15, 2024 16:29:37 GMT -8
As a conservative, I think he is an excellent choice. Grew up poor to a drug addicted mother, father who left, and was raised by his grandmother. Joined the Marines after 911 and came back from that to get a degree from tOSU and law degree from Yale. Guy is smart as all get out and speaks well. He will destroy Kamala in any debate and, given the age of Biden and Trump, the viability of either to become president is firmly on his side. I am sure, however, that others looking at 2028 on the Rep side would have preferred Carson as the VP choice.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 16:46:58 GMT -8
As a conservative, I think he is an excellent choice. Grew up poor to a drug addicted mother, father who left, and was raised by his grandmother. Joined the Marines after 911 and came back from that to get a degree from tOSU and law degree from Yale. Guy is smart as all get out and speaks well. He will destroy Kamala in any debate and, given the age of Biden and Trump, the viability of either to become president is firmly on his side. I am sure, however, that others looking at 2028 on the Rep side would have preferred Carson as the VP choice. He checks all the wrong boxes. Ted Cruz went to Harvard. Tom Cotton went to Harvard. Going to the Ivy League isn't a remote accomplishment in Congress and it doesn't really signify much. Vance is a terrible choice to appeal to moderates.
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Post by Den60 on Jul 15, 2024 17:05:29 GMT -8
Vance will do fine as Trump's running mate. While Ohio's Senator, he well knows the issues of the Rust Belt and that area encompasses three of the key swing states. And as far as Harris is concerned, the VP debate will include discussions of her performance as the Biden Admin's "Immigration Czar", so there is no way she will be eating like a New Guinea cannibal ![:rolleyes](//storage.proboards.com/2927646/images/4N3y21LHkMeUS7tigeMu.gif) . He's also an election denier, someone who hates women and supports a federal abortion ban. The border crisis is played out. You make me laugh. Election denier? Damn, you remember Hillary or Gore, both claimed their election was stolen, and Gore actively challenged. Can you point to me where Vance has advocated a federal abortion ban? He has said he is in support of the "morning after" pill. Kind of significant for a Catholic, by the way. If you want a federal law on abortion here is how you do it. The House introduces a bill, it gets debated, they come to a consensus and then sends that to the Senate. They will debate, decide if they will approve and, if not, send it back to the House. Once they come to an agreement, then they pass it and send it to the President who has the choice to sing or veto. If he vetoes, then the House can override that veto with a 2/3ds vote.. That's how laws are passed in this country. The thing is, democrats had years when they had large majorities to pass a federal abortion bill and yet they never did. Wh? Because they didn't want to piss off those in their party who want abortion up until parturition. A bunch of f****** cowards. The case that overturned Roe v Wade was about Mississippi's desire to limit abortion to 15 weeks unless the life of the mother was at stake. Pro- abortion advocates want no limits at all, some have even advocated for killing those after birth in botched abortions (former Virginia governor IIRC). The pro abortionists argued and lost because of a single argument, what was the reason for deciding abortion to occur until the third trimester as being "acceptable?" The pro-abortionists, under question from SCOTUS, agreed that that decision was made "arbitrarily." Now, if you want to debate as to when a fetus is an actual person with human rights, please do. I will destroy you and not break a sweat doing so. I expect that you don't understand that most European countries limit abortion to the first 12-14 weeks unless the life of the mother is at stake. That is rather rare, if ever happens anymore. A doc can perform an emergency C-section quite quickly if it comes to that. The procedure would be as quick, if not quicker, than an abortion. Unlike us, European countries voted for their abortion laws. The overturning of Roe-V-Wade puts the issue back in front of the voters of their individual states. That is from the 10th amendment. Isn't that, democracy in action, what your dementia addled President advocates for, our "democracy?" If you want a federal law our founders gave you a way to pursue this, which I detailed the process above. If you want this to be part of The Constitution, they gave you an avenue to do that as well. The latter is much, much harder for a reason.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 15, 2024 17:14:09 GMT -8
didn't Vance have "TDS", then he didn't have "TDS"?? TDS, a way to explain people who don't share your world view. Or in Vance's case, he saw where the power structure was going. At least people who think trum is scum base it on mentors they have had in the past... how they act, how they treat people. The magas will be stoked for about 2 years, until they get a whiff of the changes they won't like. By then it will be too late.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 15, 2024 17:24:45 GMT -8
He's also an election denier, someone who hates women and supports a federal abortion ban. The border crisis is played out. You make me laugh. Election denier? Damn, you remember Hillary or Gore, both claimed their election was stolen, and Gore actively challenged. Can you point to me where Vance has advocated a federal abortion ban? He has said he is in support of the "morning after" pill. Kind of significant for a Catholic, by the way. If you want a federal law on abortion here is how you do it. The House introduces a bill, it gets debated, they come to a consensus and then sends that to the Senate. They will debate, decide if they will approve and, if not, send it back to the House. Once they come to an agreement, then they pass it and send it to the President who has the choice to sing or veto. If he vetoes, then the House can override that veto with a 2/3ds vote.. That's how laws are passed in this country. The thing is, democrats had years when they had large majorities to pass a federal abortion bill and yet they never did. Wh? Because they didn't want to piss off those in their party who want abortion up until parturition. A bunch of f****** cowards. The case that overturned Roe v Wade was about Mississippi's desire to limit abortion to 15 weeks unless the life of the mother was at stake. Pro- abortion advocates want no limits at all, some have even advocated for killing those after birth in botched abortions (former Virginia governor IIRC). The pro abortionists argued and lost because of a single argument, what was the reason for deciding abortion to occur until the third trimester as being "acceptable?" The pro-abortionists, under question from SCOTUS, agreed that that decision was made "arbitrarily." Now, if you want to debate as to when a fetus is an actual person with human rights, please do. I will destroy you and not break a sweat doing so. I expect that you don't understand that most European countries limit abortion to the first 12-14 weeks unless the life of the mother is at stake. That is rather rare, if ever happens anymore. A doc can perform an emergency C-section quite quickly if it comes to that. The procedure would be as quick, if not quicker, than an abortion. Unlike us, European countries voted for their abortion laws. The overturning of Roe-V-Wade puts the issue back in front of the voters of their individual states. That is from the 10th amendment. Isn't that, democracy in action, what your dementia addled President advocates for, our "democracy?" If you want a federal law our founders gave you a way to pursue this, which I detailed the process above. If you want this to be part of The Constitution, they gave you an avenue to do that as well. The latter is much, much harder for a reason. Starting off with a false equivalence? Clinton conceded the election the next day. There was no attempt to obstruct the certification. There was no attempt at violence. There was no attempt at harassment or intimidation of public officials. Vance, as the information above indicated, was in support of what amounts to a coup. During Vance's Senate run, he supported a federal abortion ban at 15 weeks. He changed his tune as soon as Ohio backed abortion rights in 2023 and has repeatedly skirted the issue in interviews with various media outlets, giving non-answers and vague explanations. We are not in Europe, so I'm not sure what a completely different set of cultural norms and situations have to do with basic policy here in the United States. I get how the Constitution is amended. Still, an ideologically-hijacked Supreme Court decided to overturn Roe v. Wade, set in motion by a kangaroo system that Republicans leveraged to block Garland's nomination. I appreciate your reasonable stance.
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Post by waxxon on Jul 17, 2024 10:57:56 GMT -8
Who wrote this...I...aztecryan...or J.D. Vance? “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “ We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messagesAnd didn't he also call him a racist??? Never mind my mistake, that's what Harris said about Biden
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