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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2024 11:01:52 GMT -8
Who wrote this...I...aztecryan...or J.D. Vance? “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “ We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messagesAnd didn't he also call him a racist??? Never mind my mistake, that's what Harris said about Biden I think "racist" is covered under "America's Hitler." |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 17, 2024 11:36:45 GMT -8
Who wrote this...I...aztecryan...or J.D. Vance? “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “ We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messagesAnd didn't he also call him a racist??? Never mind my mistake, that's what Harris said about Biden "In fact, in one instance, Harris specifically said to Biden, “I do not believe you are a racist.” That was in the June 27, 2019, debate...." www.factcheck.org/2020/08/harris-hasnt-called-biden-a-racist-or-a-rapist/Nice try...but waxxoff with that lie.... |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2024 11:44:40 GMT -8
And didn't he also call him a racist??? Never mind my mistake, that's what Harris said about Biden "In fact, in one instance, Harris specifically said to Biden, “I do not believe you are a racist.” That was in the June 27, 2019, debate...." www.factcheck.org/2020/08/harris-hasnt-called-biden-a-racist-or-a-rapist/Nice try...but waxxoff with that lie.... Did Harris say something to the effect that Joe Biden wouldn't want her to live in his neighborhood? |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2024 11:46:04 GMT -8
As a conservative, I think he is an excellent choice. Grew up poor to a drug addicted mother, father who left, and was raised by his grandmother. Joined the Marines after 911 and came back from that to get a degree from tOSU and law degree from Yale. Guy is smart as all get out and speaks well. He will destroy Kamala in any debate and, given the age of Biden and Trump, the viability of either to become president is firmly on his side. I am sure, however, that others looking at 2028 on the Rep side would have preferred Carson as the VP choice. He checks all the wrong boxes. Ted Cruz went to Harvard. Tom Cotton went to Harvard. Going to the Ivy League isn't a remote accomplishment in Congress and it doesn't really signify much. Vance is a terrible choice to appeal to moderates. Is he a good choice for certain electoral states? |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2024 11:51:16 GMT -8
Who wrote this...I...aztecryan...or J.D. Vance? “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “ We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messagesConcerning his 2016 comments about Trump, Vance explained it this way. He basically said that he felt that way before Trump was elected, but after Trump took office, and thereafter, Trump proved him wrong, so he admitted that he was wrong. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 17, 2024 12:07:35 GMT -8
Did Harris say something to the effect that Joe Biden wouldn't want her to live in his neighborhood? Do you have anything that says she said that?...if not...waxxoff.... |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 17, 2024 12:12:33 GMT -8
Who wrote this...I...aztecryan...or J.D. Vance? “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “ We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messagesConcerning his 2016 comments about Trump, Vance explained it this way. He basically said that he felt that way before Trump was elected, but after Trump took office, and thereafter, Trump proved him wrong, so he admitted that he was wrong. Yeah...that's the ticket...we can't unheard what we already heard.... |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2024 12:20:23 GMT -8
He checks all the wrong boxes. Ted Cruz went to Harvard. Tom Cotton went to Harvard. Going to the Ivy League isn't a remote accomplishment in Congress and it doesn't really signify much. Vance is a terrible choice to appeal to moderates. Is he a good choice for certain electoral states? No idea. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2024 12:21:12 GMT -8
Who wrote this...I...aztecryan...or J.D. Vance? “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum's piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I'm not surprised by Trump's rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “ We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect.” “I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging?” www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messagesConcerning his 2016 comments about Trump, Vance explained it this way. He basically said that he felt that way before Trump was elected, but after Trump took office, and thereafter, Trump proved him wrong, so he admitted that he was wrong. And if you believe that, uh...I'm not sure. He sold out, pretty simple. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2024 12:43:43 GMT -8
"When word got back to Tucker Carlson a few weeks ago that Mr. Trump might be wavering on Mr. Vance, he intervened. Mr. Carlson, who was visiting Australia on a speaking tour, phoned Mr. Trump and delivered an apocalyptic warning, according to two people briefed on their conversation. He told Mr. Trump that Mr. Rubio could not be trusted—that he would work against him and would try to lead America into nuclear war. Mr. Carlson, who declined to comment for this article, told Mr. Trump that Mr. Burgum could not be trusted, either. Mr. Carlson told Mr. Trump in that June phone call that he believed that if he chose a “neocon” as his V.P.—an abbreviation for Republicans who favor using U.S. power to implant democracy abroad—then the U.S. intelligence agencies would have every incentive to assassinate Mr. Trump in order to get their preferred president." www.vanityfair.com/news/story/tucker-carlson-warning-to-trump-jd-vanceTotally normal process. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 17, 2024 14:54:49 GMT -8
Concerning his 2016 comments about Trump, Vance explained it this way. He basically said that he felt that way before Trump was elected, but after Trump took office, and thereafter, Trump proved him wrong, so he admitted that he was wrong. And if you believe that, uh...I'm not sure. He sold out, pretty simple. I don't know if what he said is true. Definitely could have been a sell out. It's just what he said. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 17, 2024 14:58:04 GMT -8
And if you believe that, uh...I'm not sure. He sold out, pretty simple. I don't know if what he said is true. Definitely could have been a sell out. It's just what he said. He needed Trump's endorsement to win his primary. It was very competitive. "Even before Trump endorsed Vance, the race had become somewhat of a test of who could be the most Trump-like. One Mandel ad said he was "pro-Trump" while Timken said she was "the real Trump conservative." Gibbons compared his businessman background to Trump's. Vance, meanwhile, had a history of criticizing the former president, which is part of the reason Trump's endorsement came as a surprise to many in Ohio. In 2016, Vance had called Trump "reprehensible" and an "idiot," but in his primary campaign, Vance did a 180 and said those comments were "stupid." He's since referred to Trump as "the greatest president in my lifetime." "Like some others, J.D. Vance may have said some not so great things about me in the past, but he gets it now, and I have seen that in spades," Trump said in his endorsement statement, adding that he had studied the race closely." |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 17, 2024 17:46:29 GMT -8
Republican National Convention Viewership Falls To 14.81 Million On Second Night; Fox News Draws Lopsided Share Of Audience "The Republican National Convention drew an estimated 14.81 million viewers on its second night, a drop from the second night in 2020, according to Nielsen." "About 19.42 million watched the second night of the RNC in 2020, when much of the event was virtual due to the Covid pandemic. The convention drew about 19.76 million in 2016." "An estimated 11.64 million viewers were 55 and above, 2.4 million were 35-54, and 507,000 were 18-34." deadline.com/2024/07/republican-national-convention-ratings-fall-second-night-1236013534/
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