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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 12:39:30 GMT -8
It's been confirmed by hospital staff and by reports, so yeah, I'm pretty sure. Acting like you care this deeply is pretty odd. I'm not going to get sucked into the vortex of whatever cult worshipping is going to take place, this is another convenient narrative to turn Trump into the national hero.... he's still the same person he was yesterday. And what created the glass shrapnel then? If his teleprompter did help deflect the shot then that was fortuitous though, you seem to dismiss the fact that the bullet was aimed at his head. Personally, I'm surprised that ballistic glass isn't used at events like this. I'm not sure we have any way of knowing where the gun was aimed at without knowing all the variables. I'm likewise surprised, though, even with how much security and Secret Service protection is involved. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 14, 2024 12:43:52 GMT -8
Ryan said . . .
Yes, I find it unreasonable. Because it largely is, in fact, unreasonable. Zero mention of Trump's decade-long incitement of violence across pretty much everywhere. This makes even less sense when the shooter wasn't a Democrat, wasn't a Biden disciple, wasn't a leftist....so, yeah, what?
You continue to misrepresent the truth and reality, to an embarrassing level. In your eyes, because January 6th ultimately failed, it's no big deal and represents a footnote in history. That's nonsense, of course, a completely false and narrative-skewed misinterpretation of events. Have you even heard of Project 2025? Tbe rhetoric is TRUE.
Oh, boy! What a load of . . .
Point one: Someone tried to kill Donald Trump; that's the issue. Whether Donald Trump is the world's biggest villain or Christ reborn is not the point. I have suggested that the elevated rhetoric aimed at Trump might possibly lead to someone attempting to assassinate the former President. That may or may not prove to be true. It was just a speculation on my part. But for you to say that such an eventuality is unthinkable is nonsense. Calling Trump a threat to democracy might seem merely to be overheated rhetoric to most folks might, but to that one person with a gun out of millions of sensible people with guns, it could be a call to action.
Everything you have posted about Trump reveals that you consider him a fascist who intends to destroy this country's system of government. That is your right. My opinion of the man, while far less hyperbolic than yours, is also very negative. (Although in part for different reasons.) Whatever our opinions of Trump may be, I feel certain that we consider an assassination, even an attempted one, to be very, bad for this country's future.
Point two: My view of January 6th is nothing like what you suggest. If nothing else, the event demonstrated the resilience of our system. As an attempt to overthrow the government, it was badly planned to the point of being farcical. Only with the backing of substantial military units willing to denounce their oath to uphold the Constitution could it ever have had a chance up success. Temporary success at that, since the vast majority of the U.S. military would have made short work of the rebels.
January 6th was an affront to the basic values of this country. It was not, as the Democrats love to say, a serious threat to overthrow the U.S. government. I will turn 82 in October. I do not expect to live to a time when the Dems will not condemn ANY Republican candidate for President as being a MAGA extremist, no matter how absurd such a claim might be.
Once again I will state my political philosophy. Both major parties are deficient in my view. We have currently the choice between a party that is collectivist and one that is populist. I would hope to see a libertarian candidate be elected to the presidency. That is unlikely, but one can always hope.
AzWm
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 12:54:15 GMT -8
Well, people are reading all kinds of things into this. Politicians use euphemisms all the time, both sides. Question, when Paul Pelosi almost got killed by a guy with a ball peen hammer, why did trump (and others) make fun of him? I don't even know the guy...not the biggest Nancy fan, but that was not funny. Regarding the security at the event...it makes no sense..none. In this day and age. and with the technology available (drones with cameras)..how do you not secure a roof top like that? I have been on a lot of drone filming jobs and it makes no sense based in what's available. Or is it an open carry state, where you can carry near an event like this? which is also as stupid as it gets. Paul Pelosi didn't almost die, that whole situation was pretty weird though. He knew his attacker, and was talking to police at his door when the guy went off on him. I'm sorry, the rhetoric from people like Maxine Waters, Schumer (personally threatened SCOTUS members), Hillary (called for people like me to be put in re-education camps) and others from the left is much more promoting violence than you hear from the right. It was a Sanders supporter that shot, and nearly killed, Scalise while targeting other congressional republicans. Sorry, the dems have nothing positive to run on so they have to demonize the opposition. I've seen it here in California, which is my lifetime has moved from strong red to kooky blue. I've seen people claiming Trump advocated violence against rioters for George Floyd. Yes, he said he would provide whatever the local government would want from the feds, like any other responsible President would do. People like you keep pointing at Jan 6 like it was an insurrection. Nope, most did nothing wrong though a few did instigate and cause damage. Ray Epps, caught on film advocating, isn't rotting a way in a DC jail awaiting trial. Personally, I do believe their were instigators from the left that c aused most of the problems. However, none of you will mention the riots outside the White House targeting Trump in which police and SS agents were attacked and injured and a neighboring church was set afire. I don't recall anyone charged with significant crimes. When California was devastated by fires, Trump provided Newsome with everything he asked for. The latest pro-Hamas riots have led to violence and significant damages to properties and yet now one is rotting away in jail awaiting trial for the obvious crimes that had been committed. But, we are putting grandmothers in prison for merely walking through the Capitol after CP opened the doors and let them in. Really, do you think a guy wearing horns, makeup and carrying a US flag is a threat to our republic? Biden has called Trump an existential threat to our "democracy," had said he would use F-15s against his own people. Stallwell, not to be outdone, alluded to using nuclear weapons against 2A supporters. Pelosi ripped up the SOTH speech in front of the cameras. The left tried to remove Trump from office twice and has arrested his supporters since he left office, threatening others with jail time if they didn't turn against them. His home was raided by the FBI because he was in possession of some documents that he would not have even packed himself. Those were in a locked room at Mar-a-Lago. Biden had his in garage that was accessible to many. The left elevated misdemeanor crimes to felonies just so they could use a corrupt judge and biased court to decide to make him a "felon." And yet, Harris, Biden and other prominent dems say he will imprison his rivals if he is elected. Name me one he did so in his first term? So yeah, it is the left that has worked to divide this country, calling those that oppose them "deplorables" if not worse. I'm pretty sure, after yesterdays assassination attempt, a lot of independents will now be firmly in the Trump camp. Most who don't like him do like his policies, just not him personally. But the great majority of those independents hate things like open borders, crime, a terrible economy, inflation, lousy foreign policy more than they dislike Trump. Pelosi woke up in a pool of his own blood and sustained a skull fracture. That seems pretty serious, more so than being hit by flying glass. But, maybe not. But, uh, there's a lot of inaccuracies here. Trump attempted to withhold from California because it didn't benefit him politically. www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-17/trump-sought-to-withhold-california-fireTrump wanted to deploy the military to shoot protesters in the wake of George Floyd's murder, he also wanted to deploy troops on January 6th to protect "his people." www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/January 6th was an insurrection, and has resulted in hundreds of prosecutions and guilty verdicts. Most of this argument just reverts back to "we know what to expect" but the first term was wildly different. Trump was surrounded initially by strong leadership and level-headed personnel (Kelly, Mattis, etc.) and that won't be the case going forward. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 13:05:56 GMT -8
Ryan said . . . Yes, I find it unreasonable. Because it largely is, in fact, unreasonable. Zero mention of Trump's decade-long incitement of violence across pretty much everywhere. This makes even less sense when the shooter wasn't a Democrat, wasn't a Biden disciple, wasn't a leftist....so, yeah, what? You continue to misrepresent the truth and reality, to an embarrassing level. In your eyes, because January 6th ultimately failed, it's no big deal and represents a footnote in history. That's nonsense, of course, a completely false and narrative-skewed misinterpretation of events. Have you even heard of Project 2025? Tbe rhetoric is TRUE. Oh, boy! What a load of . . .
Point one: Someone tried to kill Donald Trump; that's the issue. Whether Donald Trump is the world's biggest villain or Christ reborn is not the point. I have suggested that the elevated rhetoric aimed at Trump might possibly lead to someone attempting to assassinate the former President. That may or may not prove to be true. It was just a speculation on my part. But for you to say that such an eventuality is unthinkable is nonsense. Calling Trump a threat to democracy might seem merely to be overheated rhetoric to most folks might, but to that one person with a gun out of millions of sensible people with guns, it could be a call to action.
Everything you have posted about Trump reveals that you consider him a fascist who intends to destroy this country's system of government. That is your right. My opinion of the man, while far less hyperbolic than yours, is also very negative. (Although in part for different reasons.) Whatever our opinions of Trump may be, I feel certain that we consider an assassination, even an attempted one, to be very, bad for this country's future.
Point two: My view of January 6th is nothing like what you suggest. If nothing else, the event demonstrated the resilience of our system. As an attempt to overthrow the government, it was badly planned to the point of being farcical. Only with the backing of substantial military units willing to denounce their oath to uphold the Constitution could it ever have had a chance up success. Temporary success at that, since the vast majority of the U.S. military would have made short work of the rebels.
January 6th was an affront to the basic values of this country. It was not, as the Democrats love to say, a serious threat to overthrow the U.S. government. I will turn 82 in October. I do not expect to live to a time when the Dems will not condemn ANY Republican candidate for President as being a MAGA extremist, no matter how absurd such a claim might be.
Once again I will state my political philosophy. Both major parties are deficient in my view. We have currently the choice between a party that is collectivist and one that is populist. I would hope to see a libertarian candidate be elected to the presidency. That is unlikely, but one can always hope.
AzWm
No, the point is you're trying to selectively vilify a certain percentage of the population for calling out Donald Trump's myriad number of issues. "Trump isn't Hitler." In what context? Trump literally quoted Mein Kampf in a speech. He has done so on multiple occasions. His *actions* and *statements* are in line with dictatorships. I'm assuming you think this is, again, no big deal. We disagree. You want to blame the rhetoric, but you don't want to blame the person the rhetoric is aimed at. Why? He's not a victim, he's a habitual offender. Where were you during "Lock her up?" Where were you when Trump was posting memes that showed Biden in the trunk of a car, tied up? Spare me the outrage, I'm not interested, until you're ready to confront an inconvenient truth. And your opinion on January 6th, as per usual, misses the point. Google Project 2025, then come back to the table. I truly don't understand the idea behind "Well, this attempt was a farce, so we can downplay it." That's not a real thing. We live in the United States, not a third world country. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 13:22:22 GMT -8
Ryan said . . . Yes, I find it unreasonable. Because it largely is, in fact, unreasonable. Zero mention of Trump's decade-long incitement of violence across pretty much everywhere. This makes even less sense when the shooter wasn't a Democrat, wasn't a Biden disciple, wasn't a leftist....so, yeah, what? You continue to misrepresent the truth and reality, to an embarrassing level. In your eyes, because January 6th ultimately failed, it's no big deal and represents a footnote in history. That's nonsense, of course, a completely false and narrative-skewed misinterpretation of events. Have you even heard of Project 2025? Tbe rhetoric is TRUE. Oh, boy! What a load of . . .
Point one: Someone tried to kill Donald Trump; that's the issue. Whether Donald Trump is the world's biggest villain or Christ reborn is not the point. I have suggested that the elevated rhetoric aimed at Trump might possibly lead to someone attempting to assassinate the former President. That may or may not prove to be true. It was just a speculation on my part. But for you to say that such an eventuality is unthinkable is nonsense. Calling Trump a threat to democracy might seem merely to be overheated rhetoric to most folks might, but to that one person with a gun out of millions of sensible people with guns, it could be a call to action.
Everything you have posted about Trump reveals that you consider him a fascist who intends to destroy this country's system of government. That is your right. My opinion of the man, while far less hyperbolic than yours, is also very negative. (Although in part for different reasons.) Whatever our opinions of Trump may be, I feel certain that we consider an assassination, even an attempted one, to be very, bad for this country's future.
Point two: My view of January 6th is nothing like what you suggest. If nothing else, the event demonstrated the resilience of our system. As an attempt to overthrow the government, it was badly planned to the point of being farcical. Only with the backing of substantial military units willing to denounce their oath to uphold the Constitution could it ever have had a chance up success. Temporary success at that, since the vast majority of the U.S. military would have made short work of the rebels.
January 6th was an affront to the basic values of this country. It was not, as the Democrats love to say, a serious threat to overthrow the U.S. government. I will turn 82 in October. I do not expect to live to a time when the Dems will not condemn ANY Republican candidate for President as being a MAGA extremist, no matter how absurd such a claim might be.
Once again I will state my political philosophy. Both major parties are deficient in my view. We have currently the choice between a party that is collectivist and one that is populist. I would hope to see a libertarian candidate be elected to the presidency. That is unlikely, but one can always hope.
AzWm
"Not a serious threat to overturn democracy." Trump needs a new VP. Why's that? What happens when red states refuse to certify the election? There's already an issue in Nevada, in Washoe County, with a Rephblican majority. They don't want to certify the results. No big deal, obviously. The justifications you come to are bizarre and to be quite honest, laughable. If the insurrection had worked for a matter of hours, we're supposed to just overlook that? Just because they didn't succeed doesn't diminish the reality of what happened. What do you think a second turn looks like with the same people in Congress? Come to your senses. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 14, 2024 13:25:12 GMT -8
Paul Pelosi didn't almost die, that whole situation was pretty weird though. He knew his attacker, and was talking to police at his door when the guy went off on him. I'm sorry, the rhetoric from people like Maxine Waters, Schumer (personally threatened SCOTUS members), Hillary (called for people like me to be put in re-education camps) and others from the left is much more promoting violence than you hear from the right. It was a Sanders supporter that shot, and nearly killed, Scalise while targeting other congressional republicans. Sorry, the dems have nothing positive to run on so they have to demonize the opposition. I've seen it here in California, which is my lifetime has moved from strong red to kooky blue. I've seen people claiming Trump advocated violence against rioters for George Floyd. Yes, he said he would provide whatever the local government would want from the feds, like any other responsible President would do. People like you keep pointing at Jan 6 like it was an insurrection. Nope, most did nothing wrong though a few did instigate and cause damage. Ray Epps, caught on film advocating, isn't rotting a way in a DC jail awaiting trial. Personally, I do believe their were instigators from the left that c aused most of the problems. However, none of you will mention the riots outside the White House targeting Trump in which police and SS agents were attacked and injured and a neighboring church was set afire. I don't recall anyone charged with significant crimes. When California was devastated by fires, Trump provided Newsome with everything he asked for. The latest pro-Hamas riots have led to violence and significant damages to properties and yet now one is rotting away in jail awaiting trial for the obvious crimes that had been committed. But, we are putting grandmothers in prison for merely walking through the Capitol after CP opened the doors and let them in. Really, do you think a guy wearing horns, makeup and carrying a US flag is a threat to our republic? Biden has called Trump an existential threat to our "democracy," had said he would use F-15s against his own people. Stallwell, not to be outdone, alluded to using nuclear weapons against 2A supporters. Pelosi ripped up the SOTH speech in front of the cameras. The left tried to remove Trump from office twice and has arrested his supporters since he left office, threatening others with jail time if they didn't turn against them. His home was raided by the FBI because he was in possession of some documents that he would not have even packed himself. Those were in a locked room at Mar-a-Lago. Biden had his in garage that was accessible to many. The left elevated misdemeanor crimes to felonies just so they could use a corrupt judge and biased court to decide to make him a "felon." And yet, Harris, Biden and other prominent dems say he will imprison his rivals if he is elected. Name me one he did so in his first term? So yeah, it is the left that has worked to divide this country, calling those that oppose them "deplorables" if not worse. I'm pretty sure, after yesterdays assassination attempt, a lot of independents will now be firmly in the Trump camp. Most who don't like him do like his policies, just not him personally. But the great majority of those independents hate things like open borders, crime, a terrible economy, inflation, lousy foreign policy more than they dislike Trump. Pelosi woke up in a pool of his own blood and sustained a skull fracture. That seems pretty serious, more so than being hit by flying glass. But, maybe not. But, uh, there's a lot of inaccuracies here. Trump attempted to withhold from California because it didn't benefit him politically. www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-17/trump-sought-to-withhold-california-fireTrump wanted to deploy the military to shoot protesters in the wake of George Floyd's murder, he also wanted to deploy troops on January 6th to protect "his people." www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/January 6th was an insurrection, and has resulted in hundreds of prosecutions and guilty verdicts. Most of this argument just reverts back to "we know what to expect" but the first term was wildly different. Trump was surrounded initially by strong leadership and level-headed personnel (Kelly, Mattis, etc.) and that won't be the case going forward. Your regurgitation of liberal democratic talking points is pathetic, and frankly a thinly veiled attempt to somehow justify the action of an attack on a candidate while downplaying the impact on the campaign. There was an ATTEMPT ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE’S LIFE!! Anyone, regardless of political affiliation needs to take this very seriously. Because you apparently have trouble ordering things in your mind, let me just tell you this; this story is by far the most significant story of any political campaign in the last 25 years. Your mind is hopelessly lost in a vast wilderness of political partisan rhetoric. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 13:48:21 GMT -8
Pelosi woke up in a pool of his own blood and sustained a skull fracture. That seems pretty serious, more so than being hit by flying glass. But, maybe not. But, uh, there's a lot of inaccuracies here. Trump attempted to withhold from California because it didn't benefit him politically. www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-17/trump-sought-to-withhold-california-fireTrump wanted to deploy the military to shoot protesters in the wake of George Floyd's murder, he also wanted to deploy troops on January 6th to protect "his people." www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/January 6th was an insurrection, and has resulted in hundreds of prosecutions and guilty verdicts. Most of this argument just reverts back to "we know what to expect" but the first term was wildly different. Trump was surrounded initially by strong leadership and level-headed personnel (Kelly, Mattis, etc.) and that won't be the case going forward. Your regurgitation of liberal democratic talking points is pathetic, and frankly a thinly veiled attempt to somehow justify the action of an attack on a candidate while downplaying the impact on the campaign. There was an ATTEMPT ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE’S LIFE!! Anyone, regardless of political affiliation needs to take this very seriously. Because you apparently have trouble ordering things in your mind, let me just tell you this; this story is by far the most significant story of any political campaign in the last 25 years. Your mind is hopelessly lost in a vast wilderness of political partisan rhetoric. Sorry, I don't share your hysteria. "Regurgitation" of sourced articles? I'm sure if I plucked things from Fox you would agree, but I'm not interested in blatant stupidity. You, of all people, accusing people of being lost in "partisan rhetoric" is hilarious. You're an absolutely unserious individual. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 14, 2024 13:51:17 GMT -8
A few are saying it was glass, struck by a bullet. Possibly a teleprompter. Yes, he donated to Biden. Yep, his party affiliation means zero. As I mentioned in another post John, what if he's just a screwed up kid, who used his Dad's gun..and was making a "statement" like Hinckley or Chapman. Would it matter which affiliation then? Obviously not a professional, but does not explain how hegot in that position in the first place. No, to me party affiliation means nothing. When I first signed up to party way back when, I just simply signed up to what my parents party affiliation was. He was definitely mentally ill since nobody I'm their right mind would do such a thing. There could be countless reasons why he did what he did, unfortunately. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 13:52:55 GMT -8
Pelosi woke up in a pool of his own blood and sustained a skull fracture. That seems pretty serious, more so than being hit by flying glass. But, maybe not. But, uh, there's a lot of inaccuracies here. Trump attempted to withhold from California because it didn't benefit him politically. www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-17/trump-sought-to-withhold-california-fireTrump wanted to deploy the military to shoot protesters in the wake of George Floyd's murder, he also wanted to deploy troops on January 6th to protect "his people." www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/January 6th was an insurrection, and has resulted in hundreds of prosecutions and guilty verdicts. Most of this argument just reverts back to "we know what to expect" but the first term was wildly different. Trump was surrounded initially by strong leadership and level-headed personnel (Kelly, Mattis, etc.) and that won't be the case going forward. Your regurgitation of liberal democratic talking points is pathetic, and frankly a thinly veiled attempt to somehow justify the action of an attack on a candidate while downplaying the impact on the campaign. There was an ATTEMPT ON A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE’S LIFE!! Anyone, regardless of political affiliation needs to take this very seriously. Because you apparently have trouble ordering things in your mind, let me just tell you this; this story is by far the most significant story of any political campaign in the last 25 years. Your mind is hopelessly lost in a vast wilderness of political partisan rhetoric. What is the "impact" on the campaign? Having a serious discussion with you is next to impossible, but I'll try. |
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Post by aardvark on Jul 14, 2024 14:17:45 GMT -8
Are you sure he was hit by glass?Melodrama? Again, you've got it bad, real bad. It's been confirmed by hospital staff and by reports, so yeah, I'm pretty sure. Acting like you care this deeply is pretty odd. I'm not going to get sucked into the vortex of whatever cult worshipping is going to take place, this is another convenient narrative to turn Trump into the national hero.... he's still the same person he was yesterday. And yet, both Teleprompters appeared intact after the shooting. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 14:20:34 GMT -8
It's been confirmed by hospital staff and by reports, so yeah, I'm pretty sure. Acting like you care this deeply is pretty odd. I'm not going to get sucked into the vortex of whatever cult worshipping is going to take place, this is another convenient narrative to turn Trump into the national hero.... he's still the same person he was yesterday. And yet, both Teleprompters appeared intact after the shooting. Just reporting what the Secret Service said. |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Jul 14, 2024 14:22:46 GMT -8
It's been confirmed by hospital staff and by reports, so yeah, I'm pretty sure. Acting like you care this deeply is pretty odd. I'm not going to get sucked into the vortex of whatever cult worshipping is going to take place, this is another convenient narrative to turn Trump into the national hero.... he's still the same person he was yesterday. And yet, both Teleprompters appeared intact after the shooting. I noticed the same thing and can't find any reputable news source reporting it was glass. Not that it matters much. That someone can get in position to take those shots is extremely disturbing. Heads need to roll. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 14, 2024 14:32:20 GMT -8
And yet, both Teleprompters appeared intact after the shooting. I noticed the same thing and can't find any reputable news source reporting it was glass. Not that it matters much. That someone can get in position to take those shots is extremely disturbing. Heads need to roll. Yeah, I looked it up and the reports come from zero reputable outlets. Some people just want to jump on something to fit s narrative. You're right, it doesn't matter if it turns out to be glass. Someone tried to assassinate him. Also, if it was glass, it could have cut his eye, or hit another area such as the neck. Pitiful that people want to down play it, but not shocked. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 14:33:38 GMT -8
And yet, both Teleprompters appeared intact after the shooting. I noticed the same thing and can't find any reputable news source reporting it was glass. Not that it matters much. That someone can get in position to take those shots is extremely disturbing. Heads need to roll. Someone's getting fired, probably multiple people. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 14, 2024 14:37:51 GMT -8
You're out here praising Trump as a hero. Sorry, I'm not the delusional one. He rose up like a f****** rock star after someone tried to kill him. Had you experienced the same, you likely would have been wondering why your boxers are moist and sticky. If you don't realize that most Americans will rally around him even more because of how he responded I really can't help you. But, at least this takes the focus off Biden's mental decline for a week or so. Ryan has an agenda, and he'll go to ANY lengths to deflect any good on Trump, even an assassination attempt. That's how bad his TDS is. It's really sad that an individual can have that much hate, but it's all over the world nowadays. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 14, 2024 14:39:28 GMT -8
For the SS to not look at the top of buildings, or for people around buildings in the vicinity, is incredibly irresponsible, to say the least. That's exactly where Snipers go, typically. Unbelievable.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 14:43:58 GMT -8
He rose up like a f****** rock star after someone tried to kill him. Had you experienced the same, you likely would have been wondering why your boxers are moist and sticky. If you don't realize that most Americans will rally around him even more because of how he responded I really can't help you. But, at least this takes the focus off Biden's mental decline for a week or so. Ryan has an agenda, and he'll go to ANY lengths to deflect any good on Trump, even an assassination attempt. That's how bad his TDS is. It's really sad that an individual can have that much hate, but it's all over the world nowadays. I'm not even addressing you and you feel the need to just randomly attack. Do you feel better? You're obviously pro-Trump, so maybe you have an agenda? What's there to deflect? He wasn't nearly killed, he wasn't even shot. He's literally out golfing today. Like...what are we doing? Are you that desperate to score Internet brownie points? There's no hate. I'm just not into the stupid histrionics. "TDS" is lazy jargon for those who can't find a belief system. That's not me in the slightest. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 14, 2024 15:09:47 GMT -8
Ryan has an agenda, and he'll go to ANY lengths to deflect any good on Trump, even an assassination attempt. That's how bad his TDS is. It's really sad that an individual can have that much hate, but it's all over the world nowadays. I'm not even addressing you and you feel the need to just randomly attack. Do you feel better? You're obviously pro-Trump, so maybe you have an agenda? What's there to deflect? He wasn't nearly killed, he wasn't even shot. He's literally out golfing today. Like...what are we doing? Are you that desperate to score Internet brownie points? There's no hate. I'm just not into the stupid histrionics. "TDS" is lazy jargon for those who can't find a belief system. That's not me in the slightest. Pretty funny. You should hold yourself to those beliefs as well, concerning chiming in when you weren't addressed, since you do the same thing. Not pro Trump, but pro not being a horrible human being when someone had an attempt on their life. What's there to deflect? Let me count the ways. How about the seriousness of the event, for starters. Ho hum, an excellent president just had an assassination attempt directed at him. No bigee. Sheesh. Internet brownie points? What a piece of work. No, just pointing out the hate in people's gut. Uh, TDS just so happens to fit you PERFECTLY, so it's used on you. Pretty simple. Pitiful. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 14, 2024 15:15:50 GMT -8
I'm not even addressing you and you feel the need to just randomly attack. Do you feel better? You're obviously pro-Trump, so maybe you have an agenda? What's there to deflect? He wasn't nearly killed, he wasn't even shot. He's literally out golfing today. Like...what are we doing? Are you that desperate to score Internet brownie points? There's no hate. I'm just not into the stupid histrionics. "TDS" is lazy jargon for those who can't find a belief system. That's not me in the slightest. Pretty funny. You should hold yourself to those beliefs as well, concerning chiming in when you weren't addressed, since you do the same thing. Not pro Trump, but pro not being a horrible human being when someone had an attempt on their life. What's there to deflect? Let me count the ways. How about the seriousness of the event, for starters. Ho hum, an excellent president just had an assassination attempt directed at him. No bigee. Sheesh. Internet brownie points? What a piece of work. No, just pointing out the hate in people's gut. Uh, TDS just so happens to fit you PERFECTLY, so it's used on you. Pretty simple. Pitiful. No, TDS is used for people who fixate on Trump without justification or evidence. Kinda like what you do with me. Let go. I have empathy for the person who passed away, that's tragic. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 14, 2024 16:02:06 GMT -8
Ryan, January 6th was NOT a serious threat to overturn democracy. It is just fanciful to imagine that it was. I have enumerated several times the reasons why the effort had NO chance of succeeding. You persist in ignoring those reasons.
On the other hand, I do not think that it was no big deal. It was, as I have stated before, an affront to the values of the United States. The event also included a lot of actions that were violations of numerous laws. There is nothing good that can be said for January 6th.
What troubles me most is Trump's foolish attempt to stay in power. That alone disqualifies him from serving again as POTUS in my opinion. Is that not good enough for you?
Oh, yes, here's one more tidbit for you. Earlier this year, Benny Thompson urged the passage of a law that would have stripped Trump of Secret Service protection. Nice going, Benny! 
AzWm
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