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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 16:44:40 GMT -8
Then do your own research and listen to the clinical psychologists and medical professionals who share the same opinion. Information is out there. Throwing away your vote to saddle other people with the burden. Heroic stuff, man. Don't be so dramatic, again. In my conscience, I'd be throwing away my vote if I did vote for one of them. I have to be true to myself. I do not like either candidate. My vote will go elsewhere. Have you ever stopped to think (no, probably not) that maybe it's not dramatic at all? You're true to yourself, yet you just said essentially "screw other people, it's their problem." A lack of foresight, a lack of conviction, a lack of gumption and a lack of fortitude. Bravo.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 16:45:47 GMT -8
Then you deserve what you get. I have something better, a clear conscience. I didn't vote for a catastrophe. Good luck with that when your spine fails to hold it up. The epitome of cowardice.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 16:48:26 GMT -8
Don't be so dramatic, again. In my conscience, I'd be throwing away my vote if I did vote for one of them. I have to be true to myself. I do not like either candidate. My vote will go elsewhere. Have you ever stopped to think (no, probably not) that maybe it's not dramatic at all? You're true to yourself, yet you just said essentially "screw other people, it's their problem." A lack of foresight, a lack of conviction, a lack of gumption and a lack of fortitude. Bravo. I'm not responsible for others. They don't have to vote for either candidate, as well. Talk about fortitude. How about take a stand by not voting for either one of them. Sheesh.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 16:49:47 GMT -8
I have something better, a clear conscience. I didn't vote for a catastrophe. Good luck with that when your spine fails to hold it up. The epitome of cowardice. Good luck with your stupidity for voting for either one of them. The epitome of stupidity.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 16:54:26 GMT -8
Have you ever stopped to think (no, probably not) that maybe it's not dramatic at all? You're true to yourself, yet you just said essentially "screw other people, it's their problem." A lack of foresight, a lack of conviction, a lack of gumption and a lack of fortitude. Bravo. I'm not responsible for others. They don't have to vote for either candidate, as well. Talk about fortitude. How about take a stand by not voting for either one of them. Sheesh. I mean I prefer having the ability and intelligence to discern things at a higher level than "Biden old" because this election deserves it. Voting for someone who has no chance to win and throwing away my vote to benefit the opposite party is not something I would ever consider at all. I don't care if Biden is 918 years old, he's a plain better choice than Donald Trump based on the entirety of his first term. I'm not going to vote for Jill Stein to obtain some kind of myopic moral clarity.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 16:58:33 GMT -8
Good luck with that when your spine fails to hold it up. The epitome of cowardice. Good luck with your stupidity for voting for either one of them. The epitome of stupidity. You're incapable of having a nuanced discussion here, painfully obvious to that end. Not one thing you've said in the last two pages is insightful, profound or worth even talking about, to be frank. You've made up your mind somehow to equate two things that aren't equal, to lazily justify it in some kind of futile attempt to win brownie points or have the appearance of some kind of pride. It's objectively silly. A catastrophe? One candidate wants to end democracy, the other one doesn't. What's more catastrophic than that?
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 17:09:25 GMT -8
I'm not responsible for others. They don't have to vote for either candidate, as well. Talk about fortitude. How about take a stand by not voting for either one of them. Sheesh. I mean I prefer having the ability and intelligence to discern things at a higher level than "Biden old" because this election deserves it. Voting for someone who has no chance to win and throwing away my vote to benefit the opposite party is not something I would ever consider at all. I don't care if Biden is 918 years old, he's a plain better choice than Donald Trump based on the entirety of his first term. I'm not going to vote for Jill Stein to obtain some kind of myopic moral clarity. I'm only talking about the mental acuity factor, because that's the subject. As I've stated MANY times in the past, I would not vote Democrat because of the abortion issue amongst other issues, and I won't vote for Trump due to the division that comes with it in our country, amongst many other reasons.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 17, 2024 17:14:51 GMT -8
The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump is under felony indictment in Florida, Georgia and Washington D.C. while already a convicted felon in New York. The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump stole classified national defense information, lied on a sworn affidavit, defied a federal subpoena, destroyed surveillance equipment and disseminated top secret material to individuals without a security clearance. The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump orchestrated a multi-week conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election, culminating with the incitement of a violent insurrection at the Capitol that endangered hundreds of lives, including his own vice president. Falling or a felon? I know where my moral compass lies. Just as certain as Biden will fall again and again, the bogus felony charges against Trump will be overturned on appeal. Too much of that trial was an absolute sham, the fix was in from day one, doing substantial damage to the foundation of our justice system. Just keep the campaign on point with the Democratic platform. What was it again? -The reinstatement of Roe v Wade and resuming the subsequent infant genocide. -Anti Israel, pro Hamas and Hezbollah. -Open unenforced borders. -Continuation of the disastrous Green New Deal. -Higher energy and grocery prices, significantly high cost of living. Hmmmmm….that probably won’t be all that popular with the population who haven’t been programmed by the Democrat Party conditioning. That probably explains why the Biden administration doesn’t talk about these issues, they just quickly act on them with executive orders while letting the media basically ignore and bury these stories.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 17:21:37 GMT -8
Good luck with your stupidity for voting for either one of them. The epitome of stupidity. You're incapable of having a nuanced discussion here, painfully obvious to that end. Not one thing you've said in the last two pages is insightful, profound or worth even talking about, to be frank. You've made up your mind somehow to equate two things that aren't equal, to lazily justify it in some kind of futile attempt to win brownie points or have the appearance of some kind of pride. It's objectively silly. A catastrophe? One candidate wants to end democracy, the other one doesn't. What's more catastrophic than that? It's painfully obvious that if someone is not on your side and not seeing things exactly how you see it, you'll bash them. You've pointed out ALL the reasons why Trump's mental acuity is worse than Bidens, and when I come in and say they both have major issues in that department you say that I'm shallow. I'm not going to repeat what you've said. You've already said it. You post on here 24/7, so you've already posted the analysis. One can only agree, or disagree. You're up in arms because I'm not saying that Trump's issues are worse in the mental department. Maybe they are, but I still wouldn't vote for Biden due to it. I don't want either to be our president. Done.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 17:21:42 GMT -8
I mean I prefer having the ability and intelligence to discern things at a higher level than "Biden old" because this election deserves it. Voting for someone who has no chance to win and throwing away my vote to benefit the opposite party is not something I would ever consider at all. I don't care if Biden is 918 years old, he's a plain better choice than Donald Trump based on the entirety of his first term. I'm not going to vote for Jill Stein to obtain some kind of myopic moral clarity. I'm only talking about the mental acuity factor, because that's the subject. As I've stated MANY times in the past, I would not vote Democrat because of the abortion issue amongst other issues, and I won't vote for Trump due to the division that comes with it in our country, amongst many other reasons. That subject leads into other subjects, because you lazily tried to make both sound the same. So yes, you are incapable.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 17:25:36 GMT -8
The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump is under felony indictment in Florida, Georgia and Washington D.C. while already a convicted felon in New York. The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump stole classified national defense information, lied on a sworn affidavit, defied a federal subpoena, destroyed surveillance equipment and disseminated top secret material to individuals without a security clearance. The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump orchestrated a multi-week conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election, culminating with the incitement of a violent insurrection at the Capitol that endangered hundreds of lives, including his own vice president. Falling or a felon? I know where my moral compass lies. Just as certain as Biden will fall again and again, the bogus felony charges against Trump will be overturned on appeal. Too much of that trial was an absolute sham, the fix was in from day one, doing substantial damage to the foundation of our justice system. Just keep the campaign on point with the Democratic platform. What was it again? -The reinstatement of Roe v Wade and resuming the subsequent infant genocide. -Anti Israel, pro Hamas and Hezbollah. -Open unenforced borders. -Continuation of the disastrous Green New Deal. -Higher energy and grocery prices, significantly high cost of living. Hmmmmm….that probably won’t be all that popular with the population who haven’t been programmed by the Democrat Party conditioning. That probably explains why the Biden administration doesn’t talk about these issues, they just quickly act on them with executive orders while letting the media basically ignore and bury these stories. Infant...genocide. Welcome to the parody. Anti-Israel? So the millions and millions of humanitarian and military aid are not pro-Israel? Sounds like you could be flip-flopping. Unenforced borders? So we don't have a Border Patrol anymore. Someone should tell them, apparently. Higher energy prices and grocery store prices. If you could feasibly tell me how Joe Biden controls the price of groceries, I would listen. But you can't, so I won't. And the media...yet again. Yawn.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 17:29:09 GMT -8
You're incapable of having a nuanced discussion here, painfully obvious to that end. Not one thing you've said in the last two pages is insightful, profound or worth even talking about, to be frank. You've made up your mind somehow to equate two things that aren't equal, to lazily justify it in some kind of futile attempt to win brownie points or have the appearance of some kind of pride. It's objectively silly. A catastrophe? One candidate wants to end democracy, the other one doesn't. What's more catastrophic than that? It's painfully obvious that if someone is not on your side and not seeing things exactly how you see it, you'll bash them. You've pointed out ALL the reasons why Trump's mental acuity is worse than Bidens, and when I come in and say they both have major issues in that department you say that I'm shallow. I'm not going to repeat what you've said. You've already said it. You post on here 24/7, so you've already posted the analysis. One can only agree, or disagree. You're up in arms because I'm not saying that Trump's issues are worse in the mental department. Maybe they are, but I still wouldn't vote for Biden due to it. I don't want either to be our president. Done. Yep, because you deserve it here. Your argument is nonsensical, illogical and absurd. It deserves to be pointed out due to the seriousness and magnitude of what it is in front of us in November. You've shown a track record of being easily deceived, an inability to separate from talking points and no real desire to want to change that. Have fun voting for a third party with no chance to win. As selfish as it gets. And no, I won't absolve that for you. It's disgusting. So now you won't vote for any Democrat, due to "abortion" policies....what's the next talking point going to be?
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 17:42:56 GMT -8
Imagine a world where you can't fundamentally agree that things like public executions and the complete reconstruction of the federal government are somehow on the same level playing field as Joe Biden's age.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jun 17, 2024 18:07:14 GMT -8
gimme a break! So, the "voters" will vote for trump to teach Biden a lesson on Isreal?? trump would help turn Gaza into a parking lot..and you know it. BTW, you don't have a ton of credibility on this issue since you are an avowed Isreal hater and have called Hamas "freedom fighters". Let's get something straight...I hold no allegiance to Israel...nor am I beholden to any cause they represent...I am an American citizen...therefore, I am for the best interest of this country...Israel is not in the US best interest...it's a genocidal apartheid nation...using the same "Final Solution" playbook of extermination on Palestinians that was used in WWII...except less humane...third...you know absolutely nothing about Hamas/Palestinians/Gaza conflict other than what the Israeli propagandist tells you...everything Netanyahu and the IDF has spewed has been proven an effing lie...everything!!...yet like some MAGA supporter...you're averse to the truth because it doesn't fit your predisposed biases against Palestinians/Muslims...fourth...like any oppressed people under hostile foreign occupation...Palestinians have the right to defend themselves...period...lastly...those concerned about the genocidal slaughter of women/children...aren't voting at all for Biden and/or those who support Israel's criminal behavior...Biden/Dems chose the criminals...Biden/Dems chose Israel over American democracy...just like MAGA has chosen the criminal....
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 17, 2024 18:31:31 GMT -8
gimme a break! So, the "voters" will vote for trump to teach Biden a lesson on Isreal?? trump would help turn Gaza into a parking lot..and you know it. BTW, you don't have a ton of credibility on this issue since you are an avowed Isreal hater and have called Hamas "freedom fighters". Let's get something straight...I hold no allegiance to Israel...nor am I beholden to any cause they represent...I am an American citizen...therefore, I am for the best interest of this country...Israel is not in the US best interest...it's a genocidal apartheid nation...using the same "Final Solution" playbook of extermination on Palestinians that was used in WWII...except less humane...third...you know absolutely nothing about Hamas/Palestinians/Gaza conflict other than what the Israeli propagandist tells you...everything Netanyahu and the IDF has spewed has been proven an effing lie...everything!!...yet like some MAGA supporter...you're averse to the truth because it doesn't fit your predisposed biases against Palestinians/Muslims...fourth...like any oppressed people under hostile foreign occupation...Palestinians have the right to defend themselves...period...lastly...those concerned about the genocidal slaughter of women/children...aren't voting at all for Biden and/or those who support Israel's criminal behavior...Biden/Dems chose the criminals...Biden/Dems chose Israel over American democracy...just like MAGA has chosen the criminal.... hahaha..
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 18:53:18 GMT -8
gimme a break! So, the "voters" will vote for trump to teach Biden a lesson on Isreal?? trump would help turn Gaza into a parking lot..and you know it. BTW, you don't have a ton of credibility on this issue since you are an avowed Isreal hater and have called Hamas "freedom fighters". Let's get something straight...I hold no allegiance to Israel...nor am I beholden to any cause they represent...I am an American citizen...therefore, I am for the best interest of this country...Israel is not in the US best interest...it's a genocidal apartheid nation...using the same "Final Solution" playbook of extermination on Palestinians that was used in WWII...except less humane...third...you know absolutely nothing about Hamas/Palestinians/Gaza conflict other than what the Israeli propagandist tells you...everything Netanyahu and the IDF has spewed has been proven an effing lie...everything!!...yet like some MAGA supporter...you're averse to the truth because it doesn't fit your predisposed biases against Palestinians/Muslims...fourth...like any oppressed people under hostile foreign occupation...Palestinians have the right to defend themselves...period...lastly...those concerned about the genocidal slaughter of women/children...aren't voting at all for Biden and/or those who support Israel's criminal behavior...Biden/Dems chose the criminals...Biden/Dems chose Israel over American democracy...just like MAGA has chosen the criminal.... There's way too much hyperbole in here.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 19:19:48 GMT -8
It's painfully obvious that if someone is not on your side and not seeing things exactly how you see it, you'll bash them. You've pointed out ALL the reasons why Trump's mental acuity is worse than Bidens, and when I come in and say they both have major issues in that department you say that I'm shallow. I'm not going to repeat what you've said. You've already said it. You post on here 24/7, so you've already posted the analysis. One can only agree, or disagree. You're up in arms because I'm not saying that Trump's issues are worse in the mental department. Maybe they are, but I still wouldn't vote for Biden due to it. I don't want either to be our president. Done. Yep, because you deserve it here. Your argument is nonsensical, illogical and absurd. It deserves to be pointed out due to the seriousness and magnitude of what it is in front of us in November. You've shown a track record of being easily deceived, an inability to separate from talking points and no real desire to want to change that. Have fun voting for a third party with no chance to win. As selfish as it gets. And no, I won't absolve that for you. It's disgusting. So now you won't vote for any Democrat, due to "abortion" policies....what's the next talking point going to be? I couldn't care less whether you absolve me of ANYTHING. Sheesh. Biden's not fit for President, and neither is Trump. If you can't handle that, then that's your issue. You can say that Trump will start a Nuclear War if elected by his irrational behavior, but I don't believe that. Ridiculous. He will cause division in our country, I believe that Biden (Bernie, as in "Weekend at Bernie's) is a weak leader who is going down hill fast in the mental department who I don't trust making rational decisions in the future either. I'm voting for neither of them. Keep playing doctor and trying to convince everyone that Biden is an ok candidate, but you've already been laughed at by many on here, so to speak. He's horrible for MANY reasons.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 19:44:09 GMT -8
Yep, because you deserve it here. Your argument is nonsensical, illogical and absurd. It deserves to be pointed out due to the seriousness and magnitude of what it is in front of us in November. You've shown a track record of being easily deceived, an inability to separate from talking points and no real desire to want to change that. Have fun voting for a third party with no chance to win. As selfish as it gets. And no, I won't absolve that for you. It's disgusting. So now you won't vote for any Democrat, due to "abortion" policies....what's the next talking point going to be? I couldn't care less whether you absolve me of ANYTHING. Sheesh. Biden's not fit to President, and neither is Trump. If you can't handle that, then that's your issue. You can say that Trump will start a Nuclear War if elected by his irrational behavior, but I don't believe that. Ridiculous. He will cause division in our country, I believe that Biden (Bernie, as in "Weekend at Bernie's) is a weak leader who is going down hill fast in the mental department who I don't trust making rational decisions in the future either. I'm voting for neither of them. Keep playing doctor and trying to convince everyone that Biden is an ok candidate, but you've already been laughed at by many on here, so to speak. He's horrible for MANY reasons. "Not fit for president" is a talking point, not a reality. And there are levels to that discussion, beyond just what lip service you're paying it. The track record of achievements, though, say otherwise. Can you govern effectively? The answer is yes. Can you lower unemployment, can you restore consumer confidence, can you fix basic core issues? The answer is yes, despite a dysfunctional Congress. I never said Trump would start a nuclear war if he was elected. I said he would have access to the codes, which is a major problem now that we know he's already undermined the nuclear security of at least one of our allies. His track record of being a sellout to Russia would undermine relations and alter the foundations of NATO, though, if he doesn't pull us out of NATO altogether. The things you think are ridiculous should be taken with a grain of salt until you look at Project 2025. Ironic that you bring that up, though. Trump in February of this year, just a few months ago, said that he needed immunity so he couldn't be indicted for using nuclear weapons on a city. And it even became a talking point at the end of his term, previously. Mark Milley had to inform the Joint Chiefs not to act on orders unless he was personally involved. So, uh, maybe not? "It’s important to remember how worried top U.S. officials were three years ago. As Trump was attempting to overturn the election results, then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley about whether he could prevent “an unstable president” from using nuclear weapons. For his part, Milley reportedly gathered senior officers to remind them not to act on orders unless he was involved, telling them, “no matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure.” Cool reference, though. We'll see who laughs later on.
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Post by azson on Jun 18, 2024 8:58:17 GMT -8
Then you deserve what you get. I have something better, a clear conscience. I didn't vote for a catastrophe.But you did. I know you said you didn't do your due diligence before voting for Trump, but the truth is anyone who listened to the man for 5 seconds (and wasn't completely blinded by their hate for BHO/Dems/the Clintons) could tell he was going to be a disastrous president.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 18, 2024 9:47:35 GMT -8
I have something better, a clear conscience. I didn't vote for a catastrophe.But you did. I know you said you didn't do your due diligence before voting for Trump, but the truth is anyone who listened to the man for 5 seconds (and wasn't completely blinded by their hate for BHO/Dems/the Clintons) could tell he was going to be a disastrous president. Don't worry, his conscience is clear, he would rather sellout the country and vote for Herman Cain. He's just another indoctrinated victim of the propaganda machine.
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