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Post by johneaztec on Jun 16, 2024 22:24:27 GMT -8
Whataboutism? Both scenarios that you bring up are not good. Too old and losing/lost mental acuity, or signs of dementia or both. This is what we have to choose from? That's the real story here. Unbelievable. It's not the real story, but I expect you to fall back on it. And, I expect you to make it more than it is. They both have their issues when it comes to their mental acuity, whether it's from a natural process, or a disease, or both. I get that you want to lessen Biden's issues, but try not to be so obvious about it. The guy is a "Weekend at Bernie's" clone. It's quite sad. He may have his moments, but overall it's pretty bad. Trump's no youngster himself, but in the mental acuity department, he's stronger than Biden there. It's not the real story? So you're fine with Biden. Ok. Your decision. Again, it's absolutely pathetic that this is who we have to choose from. Pitiful. I'll pass on both.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 16, 2024 23:23:10 GMT -8
That is footage of a man who is NOT using a teleprompter. Biden can’t function without one. One cherry picked excerpt taken out of context proves nothing and it’s not really even close to a blooper if you were watching it live. There are literally dozens of hours of footage of President Biden falling down and incoherently mumbling. Ironic, because here is what happens less than a week ago when the teleprompter for Trump breaks. You're desperate to hold on to anything you can, I get it. It's just not there. What he represents is instability and danger. I hope the public finds out when he can't form thoughts without a teleprompter in the debate. I’ll give you credit for trying reaaaaaly hard to find footage on Trump which would make a non Democrat think…..hmmmm, maybe he is a little demented and debilitated. Those were two absolute whiffs, further evidence you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Man, when they programmed the communist loyalty conditioning into your skull, you swallowed it hook line and sinker! Your desperation is becoming a bit comedic. You are not going to make me post the hours and hours of Biden gaffs and stumbles are you? There is literally hours of footage of your candidate falling on stage, mumbling incoherent nonsense and soiling himself.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 7:37:10 GMT -8
It's not the real story, but I expect you to fall back on it. And, I expect you to make it more than it is. They both have their issues when it comes to their mental acuity, whether it's from a natural process, or a disease, or both. I get that you want to lessen Biden's issues, but try not to be so obvious about it. The guy is a "Weekend at Bernie's" clone. It's quite sad. He may have his moments, but overall it's pretty bad. Trump's no youngster himself, but in the mental acuity department, he's stronger than Biden there. It's not the real story? So you're fine with Biden. Ok. Your decision. Again, it's absolutely pathetic that this is who we have to choose from. Pitiful. I'll pass on both. As per the norm, you don't seem capable of analyzing a situation at all. "Both have mental acuity issues." Sure, I guess. Maybe even fair. But what is the SEVERITY in comparison between the two? What are the symptoms, the mannerisms, the reactions, the progressions? If you think both are the same, that's just not the case. I'm not lessening anything, the optics, the perceptions and the identification of continuous mistakes do it for me. Biden's not out here repeating words, failing to finish sentences, mismatching words and phrases, etc. He has bipartisan support in the government, so you don't have to believe me. Believe the Republicans who are giving testimonials on his behalf. And no, it's not the real story. It's lazy, generic, reliable and easy to fall back on critiques that don't show any real ability to identify behavior that isn't similar. Yes, I'm fine with Biden given the other choices. He's proven to be a very capable president with a laundry list of accomplishments in a first term leading the country out of a hellish, death-filled pandemic. Do what you want, you're part of the problem.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 7:46:11 GMT -8
Ironic, because here is what happens less than a week ago when the teleprompter for Trump breaks. You're desperate to hold on to anything you can, I get it. It's just not there. What he represents is instability and danger. I hope the public finds out when he can't form thoughts without a teleprompter in the debate. I’ll give you credit for trying reaaaaaly hard to find footage on Trump which would make a non Democrat think…..hmmmm, maybe he is a little demented and debilitated. Those were two absolute whiffs, further evidence you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. Man, when they programmed the communist loyalty conditioning into your skull, you swallowed it hook line and sinker! Your desperation is becoming a bit comedic. You are not going to make me post the hours and hours of Biden gaffs and stumbles are you? There is literally hours of footage of your candidate falling on stage, mumbling incoherent nonsense and soiling himself. Really hard? It took me less than 30 seconds just to find that clip. "Trump teleprompter" - Pretty simple stuff. He has issues almost daily now. "I don't want your vote. I don't need your vote. We have plenty of votes. But wait, we need votes." Huh? He still thinks he's running against Obama from time to time. The Michigan campaign speech where he rambles about the auto industry and then struggles to finish any kind of thought. It's not hard to find material, unfortunately. And no, I'm not interested in edited clips like the ones Fox airs routinely, I get the actual footage more easily. Again, you're doing yourself and everyone else here a disservice. Here's a reel that played in Congress while Robert Hur testified about Biden's mental capacities: You know what you get when you mix a malignant narcissist with age-related neurological decline? A disaster. That person could have access to the nuclear codes in a handful of months. That person is going to have access to classified material shortly while he's under investigation for stealing classified national defense information. Nobody should want this.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jun 17, 2024 7:53:49 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 7:55:51 GMT -8
Thank the casual voter not paying attention to reality. The clickbait nonsense will do its job, sadly.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 17, 2024 10:35:27 GMT -8
Sigh. Ok….once again:
There are soooo many more, but we non programmed non beguiled non Democrats have already seen and lived through too much of this old stumble bum.
Turn the page.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 11:21:34 GMT -8
Sigh. Ok….once again: There are soooo many more, but we non programmed non beguiled non Democrats have already seen and lived through too much of this old stumble bum. Turn the page. But you *are" readily programmed, just from the opposite side of a well-oiled propaganda machine that converts memes into easily believed, pre-held perceptions. Biden trips over a sandbag at the Air Force commencement ceremony, it's international news. Why? This thread explains it. Democrats believe (naively) that policy advantages will outweigh hypercritical attacks on Biden's age and mental fitness that are regurgitated across all media fronts. They don't repeatedly run ads about Trump's inability to remember things, his criminality, his poor track record in his first term, or largely anything that's productive in the eyes of voters that haven't decided where their vote is going. The idea that Biden is old and mentally impaired and Trump is somehow not 78, in poor health and capable of holding the presidency is a force, to be blunt. The notion that somehow Trump is "energetic" or "lively" as a 250+ pound geriatric, or whatever term you want to use to indicate competency is likewise, a farce. Biden's accomplishments stand on their own merits. Trump's indictments, in turn, stand on their own merits. We are staring at trees while losing the forest here.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jun 17, 2024 11:29:50 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 11:32:19 GMT -8
The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump is under felony indictment in Florida, Georgia and Washington D.C. while already a convicted felon in New York.
The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump stole classified national defense information, lied on a sworn affidavit, defied a federal subpoena, destroyed surveillance equipment and disseminated top secret material to individuals without a security clearance.
The hilarious thing about Joe Biden tripping on a stage is that Donald Trump orchestrated a multi-week conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election, culminating with the incitement of a violent insurrection at the Capitol that endangered hundreds of lives, including his own vice president.
Falling or a felon? I know where my moral compass lies.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 12:30:18 GMT -8
And, I expect you to make it more than it is. They both have their issues when it comes to their mental acuity, whether it's from a natural process, or a disease, or both. I get that you want to lessen Biden's issues, but try not to be so obvious about it. The guy is a "Weekend at Bernie's" clone. It's quite sad. He may have his moments, but overall it's pretty bad. Trump's no youngster himself, but in the mental acuity department, he's stronger than Biden there. It's not the real story? So you're fine with Biden. Ok. Your decision. Again, it's absolutely pathetic that this is who we have to choose from. Pitiful. I'll pass on both. As per the norm, you don't seem capable of analyzing a situation at all. "Both have mental acuity issues." Sure, I guess. Maybe even fair. But what is the SEVERITY in comparison between the two? What are the symptoms, the mannerisms, the reactions, the progressions? If you think both are the same, that's just not the case. I'm not lessening anything, the optics, the perceptions and the identification of continuous mistakes do it for me. Biden's not out here repeating words, failing to finish sentences, mismatching words and phrases, etc. He has bipartisan support in the government, so you don't have to believe me. Believe the Republicans who are giving testimonials on his behalf. And no, it's not the real story. It's lazy, generic, reliable and easy to fall back on critiques that don't show any real ability to identify behavior that isn't similar. Yes, I'm fine with Biden given the other choices. He's proven to be a very capable president with a laundry list of accomplishments in a first term leading the country out of a hellish, death-filled pandemic. Do what you want, you're part of the problem. What's the severity of the two? That's like talking about the lesser of two evils. I don't want them. You have diagnosed both of them (ad nauseam) over and over, so if I were to add anything it would be repetitive. I'm just following up your diagnosis. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what both of their issues in regard to mental acuity are. I'm just summing up what you've put out there. You've played doctor and did all the research for everyone. Ok. Also, it's no secret you're not going to give any advantage to Trump in any way shape or form on anything, so people take it for what it's worth. Again, I think they're both crappy candidates and the real sad story for the country is that we have these two to choose from.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 12:51:51 GMT -8
As per the norm, you don't seem capable of analyzing a situation at all. "Both have mental acuity issues." Sure, I guess. Maybe even fair. But what is the SEVERITY in comparison between the two? What are the symptoms, the mannerisms, the reactions, the progressions? If you think both are the same, that's just not the case. I'm not lessening anything, the optics, the perceptions and the identification of continuous mistakes do it for me. Biden's not out here repeating words, failing to finish sentences, mismatching words and phrases, etc. He has bipartisan support in the government, so you don't have to believe me. Believe the Republicans who are giving testimonials on his behalf. And no, it's not the real story. It's lazy, generic, reliable and easy to fall back on critiques that don't show any real ability to identify behavior that isn't similar. Yes, I'm fine with Biden given the other choices. He's proven to be a very capable president with a laundry list of accomplishments in a first term leading the country out of a hellish, death-filled pandemic. Do what you want, you're part of the problem. What's the severity of the two? That's like talking about the lesser of two evils. I don't want them. You have diagnosed both of them (ad nauseam) over and over, so if I were to add anything it would be repetitive. I'm just following up your diagnosis. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what both of their issues in regard to mental acuity are. I'm just summing up what you've put out there. You've played doctor and did all the research for everyone. Ok. Also, it's no secret you're not going to give any advantage to Trump in any way shape or form on anything, so people take it for what it's worth. Again, I think they're both crappy candidates and the real sad story for the country is that we have these two to choose from. Glad you asked. The severity is that when you're in *active* neurological decline due to underlying disease, behavior can become erratic. Bouts of anger, confusion, disorientation, lack of impulse control, an inability to discern reality from fiction. These are compounded by preexisting personality conditions like malignant narcissism. When you're simply getting old (like all of us are) you're not going to suddenly become a danger to the country at random. The two things are very different, if you have an idea of what to look for. Forgetfulness, for example, is *not* synonymous with dementia. Again, equating the two as the lesser of two evils is lazy and a disservice to the seriousness of this election cycle. Biden is old. Trump is a convicted felon with a personality disorder who has exhibited typical symptoms of a neurological illness. I'm not here to give anyone an "advantage" - I lived the nightmare for over a decade.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 15:47:19 GMT -8
As per the norm, you don't seem capable of analyzing a situation at all. "Both have mental acuity issues." Sure, I guess. Maybe even fair. But what is the SEVERITY in comparison between the two? What are the symptoms, the mannerisms, the reactions, the progressions? If you think both are the same, that's just not the case. I'm not lessening anything, the optics, the perceptions and the identification of continuous mistakes do it for me. Biden's not out here repeating words, failing to finish sentences, mismatching words and phrases, etc. He has bipartisan support in the government, so you don't have to believe me. Believe the Republicans who are giving testimonials on his behalf. And no, it's not the real story. It's lazy, generic, reliable and easy to fall back on critiques that don't show any real ability to identify behavior that isn't similar. Yes, I'm fine with Biden given the other choices. He's proven to be a very capable president with a laundry list of accomplishments in a first term leading the country out of a hellish, death-filled pandemic. Do what you want, you're part of the problem. What's the severity of the two? That's like talking about the lesser of two evils. I don't want them. You have diagnosed both of them (ad nauseam) over and over, so if I were to add anything it would be repetitive. I'm just following up your diagnosis. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what both of their issues in regard to mental acuity are. I'm just summing up what you've put out there. You've played doctor and did all the research for everyone. Ok. Also, it's no secret you're not going to give any advantage to Trump in any way shape or form on anything, so people take it for what it's worth. Again, I think they're both crappy candidates and the real sad story for the country is that we have these two to choose from. Since you think this is the lesser of two evils... Do you prefer old or authoritarian? Do you prefer old or vengeful? Do you prefer old or political retribution? Do you prefer old or endangering national security? Do you prefer old or indicted? Just curious.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 16:12:28 GMT -8
What's the severity of the two? That's like talking about the lesser of two evils. I don't want them. You have diagnosed both of them (ad nauseam) over and over, so if I were to add anything it would be repetitive. I'm just following up your diagnosis. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what both of their issues in regard to mental acuity are. I'm just summing up what you've put out there. You've played doctor and did all the research for everyone. Ok. Also, it's no secret you're not going to give any advantage to Trump in any way shape or form on anything, so people take it for what it's worth. Again, I think they're both crappy candidates and the real sad story for the country is that we have these two to choose from. Since you think this is the lesser of two evils... Do you prefer old or authoritarian? Do you prefer old or vengeful? Do you prefer old or political retribution? Do you prefer old or endangering national security? Do you prefer old or indicted? Just curious. Neither.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 16:16:34 GMT -8
What's the severity of the two? That's like talking about the lesser of two evils. I don't want them. You have diagnosed both of them (ad nauseam) over and over, so if I were to add anything it would be repetitive. I'm just following up your diagnosis. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what both of their issues in regard to mental acuity are. I'm just summing up what you've put out there. You've played doctor and did all the research for everyone. Ok. Also, it's no secret you're not going to give any advantage to Trump in any way shape or form on anything, so people take it for what it's worth. Again, I think they're both crappy candidates and the real sad story for the country is that we have these two to choose from. Glad you asked. The severity is that when you're in *active* neurological decline due to underlying disease, behavior can become erratic. Bouts of anger, confusion, disorientation, lack of impulse control, an inability to discern reality from fiction. These are compounded by preexisting personality conditions like malignant narcissism. When you're simply getting old (like all of us are) you're not going to suddenly become a danger to the country at random. The two things are very different, if you have an idea of what to look for. Forgetfulness, for example, is *not* synonymous with dementia. Again, equating the two as the lesser of two evils is lazy and a disservice to the seriousness of this election cycle. Biden is old. Trump is a convicted felon with a personality disorder who has exhibited typical symptoms of a neurological illness. I'm not here to give anyone an "advantage" - I lived the nightmare for over a decade. I understand what you're saying, but I'm not going to take your word as if you're a doctor giving his expertise diagnosis. I'll keep saying it over and over again if you want, no problem, neither candidate are qualified to be President. I'm not going to vote for either one of them, so it'll be on other people's conscience when the next president effs up.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 16:28:08 GMT -8
Glad you asked. The severity is that when you're in *active* neurological decline due to underlying disease, behavior can become erratic. Bouts of anger, confusion, disorientation, lack of impulse control, an inability to discern reality from fiction. These are compounded by preexisting personality conditions like malignant narcissism. When you're simply getting old (like all of us are) you're not going to suddenly become a danger to the country at random. The two things are very different, if you have an idea of what to look for. Forgetfulness, for example, is *not* synonymous with dementia. Again, equating the two as the lesser of two evils is lazy and a disservice to the seriousness of this election cycle. Biden is old. Trump is a convicted felon with a personality disorder who has exhibited typical symptoms of a neurological illness. I'm not here to give anyone an "advantage" - I lived the nightmare for over a decade. I understand what you're saying, but I'm not going to take your word as if you're a doctor giving his expertise diagnosis. I'll keep saying it over and over again if you want, no problem, neither candidate are qualified to be President. I'm not going to vote for either one of them, so it'll be on other people's conscience when the next president effs up. Then do your own research and listen to the clinical psychologists and medical professionals who share the same opinion. Information is out there. Throwing away your vote to saddle other people with the burden. Heroic stuff, man.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 17, 2024 16:29:10 GMT -8
Since you think this is the lesser of two evils... Do you prefer old or authoritarian? Do you prefer old or vengeful? Do you prefer old or political retribution? Do you prefer old or endangering national security? Do you prefer old or indicted? Just curious. Neither. Then you deserve what you get.
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 17, 2024 16:36:59 GMT -8
gimme a break! So, the "voters" will vote for trump to teach Biden a lesson on Isreal?? trump would help turn Gaza into a parking lot..and you know it. BTW, you don't have a ton of credibility on this issue since you are an avowed Isreal hater and have called Hamas "freedom fighters".
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 16:39:13 GMT -8
I understand what you're saying, but I'm not going to take your word as if you're a doctor giving his expertise diagnosis. I'll keep saying it over and over again if you want, no problem, neither candidate are qualified to be President. I'm not going to vote for either one of them, so it'll be on other people's conscience when the next president effs up. Then do your own research and listen to the clinical psychologists and medical professionals who share the same opinion. Information is out there. Throwing away your vote to saddle other people with the burden. Heroic stuff, man. Don't be so dramatic, again. In my conscience, I'd be throwing away my vote if I did vote for one of them. I have to be true to myself. I do not like either candidate. My vote will go elsewhere.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 17, 2024 16:40:44 GMT -8
Then you deserve what you get. I have something better, a clear conscience. I didn't vote for a catastrophe.
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