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Post by azson on May 21, 2024 8:18:43 GMT -8
None of the big NIL schools are funded by 'fan' donations. If that is the expectation being set then the Aztec program is being set up to fail. If 12,000 fans donated $100 every year that would give the NIL a whopping $1.2million per season do divvy up among 14 players. The ONLY way the Aztecs can compete is if a major corporate donor materializes or a wealthy alum who hasn't been squeezed dry yet steps forward. Yes, we need more businesses to get involved and more big donations. But if the fans do not donate, why should they? If they do not get recognition for their donations, what is the incentive? When we used to have programs, the donors were listed, but they don’t exist anymore. We used to have names of Aztec Club donors on the scoreboard, but we don’t anymore. What recognition do NIL donors get? Businesses donate hoping to get more customers. Individual donors are more complicated, but recognition helps. About 3,000 seats are for students, and 9,000 are for season ticket holders. So, $100 per season ticket holder is $900,000. The NIL tourney is $1,000,000. I believe this would be split between the women’s and men’s teams. So about $40,000 per player for the tourney and an additional $35,000 if all season ticket holders donate $100. The current NIL is about $25,000 per player. Total would be $100,000 per player. That would give us a chance to be better than the average. I am a MESA Black donator. I am retired (fixed income) and instead of going out for a $50 dinner twice a month, I cook at home and donate $100 per month. Saying that someone else must do something doesn’t get anything done. If every season ticket holder donated $100 per month, it would be 10,8 million dollars. Do nothing, then expect nothing. Uuummmm....aren't you essentially doing the same thing?...saying that other fans besides yourself must donate or else? |
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Post by aztecm on May 21, 2024 9:39:34 GMT -8
I mean, that is a fact, NIL is a major part of the equation to recruit and retain players. No donations, no quality players. We don't have large businesses stepping up, but larger donors who are matching MESA contributions currently are saying "we'll put up major dollars if individual fans can show support." There's been 415 total donors for the MESA match, I'd hope we'd be a little further along with the at this point but it is what it is. Micah's comments got misconstrued. He said if you're the type to complain or point out individual player weaknesses on social media, you should actually be donating the most to MESA to bring in better players. People took that as "donate more", the reality is he's saying "if you're mad, donate more to bring in better talent". This is usually when twitter trolls say I'm not going to line college kids pockets, they're getting a free degree or this isn't my college sports anymore. All can be right thoughts, but the reality is NIL has become a major factor and will be that way until changes come. With that being said feel free to use the link below to donate to MESA. www.spotfund.com/story/84975a3e-932e-45b7-af47-e2b51194c396 |
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Post by LostAztec on May 21, 2024 11:32:11 GMT -8
The funny thing is that SDSU fans do not donate enough NIL. Until we do, every year is going to be more difficult. Why is it our responsibility to provide these spoiled kids with a privileged lifestyle ? The Member Institutions of the NCAA made conscious decisions not to pay these kids beyond a Scholly and some gear. Yet, they beg us to pay to pay their employees so the School can make even more money. pffffft. It's a game. Entertainment. A distraction. Not a necessity of life. |
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Post by AzTuba85 on May 21, 2024 13:01:36 GMT -8
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Post by longtimesdsufan on May 21, 2024 13:54:46 GMT -8
Yes, we need more businesses to get involved and more big donations. But if the fans do not donate, why should they? If they do not get recognition for their donations, what is the incentive? When we used to have programs, the donors were listed, but they don’t exist anymore. We used to have names of Aztec Club donors on the scoreboard, but we don’t anymore. What recognition do NIL donors get? Businesses donate hoping to get more customers. Individual donors are more complicated, but recognition helps. About 3,000 seats are for students, and 9,000 are for season ticket holders. So, $100 per season ticket holder is $900,000. The NIL tourney is $1,000,000. I believe this would be split between the women’s and men’s teams. So about $40,000 per player for the tourney and an additional $35,000 if all season ticket holders donate $100. The current NIL is about $25,000 per player. Total would be $100,000 per player. That would give us a chance to be better than the average. I am a MESA Black donator. I am retired (fixed income) and instead of going out for a $50 dinner twice a month, I cook at home and donate $100 per month. Saying that someone else must do something doesn’t get anything done. If every season ticket holder donated $100 per month, it would be 10,8 million dollars. Do nothing, then expect nothing. Uuummmm....aren't you essentially doing the same thing?...saying that other fans besides yourself must donate or else? I am saying that “None of the big NIL schools are funded by 'fan' donations” is not true. All funding is by fans or businesses. Big donors are also fans. Advertising is the foundation of NIL. We have all seen advertising on national TV with players from other schools. We have not seen national advertising based upon a San Diego company. Qualcomm is the only San Diego company I know of, and they are already helping. To get local ads, the companies must see a profit advantage, or they are “fans funding NIL”. We must find a way to bring them into the fold. I am saying that season ticket donations are part of the equation. Giving your business to companies that donate is another part of the equation. Letting donors know you appreciate their support is part of the equation. Doing the same thing and expecting things to improve is the definition of insanity. In this case, things are more likely to get worse. |
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Post by longtimesdsufan on May 21, 2024 14:01:42 GMT -8
The funny thing is that SDSU fans do not donate enough NIL. Until we do, every year is going to be more difficult. Why is it our responsibility to provide these spoiled kids with a privileged lifestyle ? The Member Institutions of the NCAA made conscious decisions not to pay these kids beyond a Scholly and some gear. Yet, they beg us to pay to pay their employees so the School can make even more money. pffffft. It's a game. Entertainment. A distraction. Not a necessity of life. Are you a season ticket holder? Dees the success of the basketball them matter to you? Sounds like the answer is no. |
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Post by bobcooper84 on May 23, 2024 6:30:55 GMT -8
I paid many times to witness Larry and Robert in the association and was never disappointed!
Now, in their 60's at a muni gym.....Maybe, maybe not!
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Post by longtimesdsufan on May 24, 2024 6:46:45 GMT -8
Copied for the Mesa Assn.
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Dear Aztec Fan,
Anonymous donors have pledged to match your donations to the San Diego State Aztecs NIL up to $300,000! This means that every dollar you donate will have double the impact in supporting our athletes, programs, and initiatives.
Raising $300,000 toward the matching program for the Aztecs is within our reach...
Viejas Arena holds a capacity of 12,414 fans. That means if only HALF of the people at an SDSU game contributed $50, we’d achieve our fundraising target. "
I paid $20 for lunch at Arby's yesterday. $50 is not much of an ask if you want to have a better basketball team.
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Post by ignoranus on May 24, 2024 7:10:01 GMT -8
Adding the 300K to the match amount would give the Aztecs another $600. If used solely for mens BB that would amount to another $50K per player.
Is that enough to attract some of the guys that the Aztecs are not getting?
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Post by docmm on May 24, 2024 7:20:15 GMT -8
Adding the 300K to the match amount would give the Aztecs another $600. If used solely for mens BB that would amount to another $50K per player. Is that enough to attract some of the guys that the Aztecs are not getting? The donation amount is presently only a little over $145,000 with just a week to go. That's not even $300,000 matched yet much less $600,000. |
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Post by aztecfanatic on May 24, 2024 9:54:05 GMT -8
Getting back to the topic of Muni - sometimes the center court players would call "next" on one of the side courts (which is where I always played). Met some really talented ball players in this way. I actually was once on a team with Willy Brigham and Percy Gilbert - they were awesome players and treated me very kindly. That was an experience that I will never forget. I was raised in Logan Heights (long before it was called Barrio Logan) and the Memorial Jr High school gym was only a few blocks away. I spent countless hours there and met some big name stars. Oscar Foster and his brother Wilber came there often; along with countless other players that became big names in San Diego basketball history. Such great memories. LOL - I had no business playing basketball; I was short, had small hands, couldn't jump; but for some odd reason I really loved to play. I worked hours trying to improve my pitiful game. I played all the way into my 60's and now just laugh at myself when I remember.
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Post by missiontrails on May 24, 2024 10:16:38 GMT -8
Getting back to the topic of Muni - sometimes the center court players would call "next" on one of the side courts (which is where I always played). Met some really talented ball players in this way. I actually was once on a team with Willy Brigham and Percy Gilbert - they were awesome players and treated me very kindly. That was an experience that I will never forget. I was raised in Logan Heights (long before it was called Barrio Logan) and the Memorial Jr High school gym was only a few blocks away. I spent countless hours there and met some big name stars. Oscar Foster and his brother Wilber came there often; along with countless other players that became big names in San Diego basketball history. Such great memories. LOL - I had no business playing basketball; I was short, had small hands, couldn't jump; but for some odd reason I really loved to play. I worked hours trying to improve my pitiful game. I played all the way into my 60's and now just laugh at myself when I remember. Percy Gilbert was indeed a really talented player. My earliest Aztec basketball memories from my childhood were listening to games on the radio (they rarely appeared on TV) with Steve Malovic, Kim "Long Ranger" Goetz, Mike Dodd, Joel Kramer, and Percy Gilbert. Malovic and Kramer played in the NBA and Dodd hit the pro beach volleyball circuit. |
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Post by jp92grad on May 24, 2024 11:06:39 GMT -8
Getting back to the topic of Muni - sometimes the center court players would call "next" on one of the side courts (which is where I always played). Met some really talented ball players in this way. I actually was once on a team with Willy Brigham and Percy Gilbert - they were awesome players and treated me very kindly. That was an experience that I will never forget. I was raised in Logan Heights (long before it was called Barrio Logan) and the Memorial Jr High school gym was only a few blocks away. I spent countless hours there and met some big name stars. Oscar Foster and his brother Wilber came there often; along with countless other players that became big names in San Diego basketball history. Such great memories. LOL - I had no business playing basketball; I was short, had small hands, couldn't jump; but for some odd reason I really loved to play. I worked hours trying to improve my pitiful game. I played all the way into my 60's and now just laugh at myself when I remember. Thank you for posting, these types of post put a little more flavor into this site talking about the history of San Diego/SDSU and the different people posting. I still have memories of playing basketball (getting worked), playing badminton (getting worked), playing Dodgeball (getting worked, with those over inflated red balls), playing kickball and what ever else they had going on down at the Muni Gym. I also remember sneaking in a few times to watch the Men's Volleyball team train down at the muni gym. |
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Post by LostAztec on May 25, 2024 8:18:11 GMT -8
Why is it our responsibility to provide these spoiled kids with a privileged lifestyle ? The Member Institutions of the NCAA made conscious decisions not to pay these kids beyond a Scholly and some gear. Yet, they beg us to pay to pay their employees so the School can make even more money. pffffft. It's a game. Entertainment. A distraction. Not a necessity of life. Are you a season ticket holder? Dees the success of the basketball them matter to you? Sounds like the answer is no. Why is it my responsibility to pay the players ? Buying tix, gear, donating to the AD helps the AD. The members of the NCAA have chosen to have the fans pick up the tab. While excluding 80% of the Schools from the honey pot. Forcing the lower levels to pay the costs of the P4 sounds like corporate socialism to me. If i buy tix to any lower level event, the money doesn't go to that School. Most of it gets funneled to the P4 to pay their bills. **** 'em. |
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Post by zurac315 on May 25, 2024 13:59:09 GMT -8
Winning isn't everything... I t ' s T h e O n l y T h i n g -V. Lombardi Go Aztecs!! Lombardi was wrong. Nothing surprising about that. "If you're not first, you're last." Reece Bobby was wrong as well. |
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Post by docmm on May 29, 2024 9:56:15 GMT -8
There's a picture of Byrd on Facebook wearing a walking boot. Anyone know what it's from or the diagnosis/prognosis?
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Post by longtimebooster on May 29, 2024 10:43:06 GMT -8
There's a picture of Byrd on Facebook wearing a walking boot. Anyone know what it's from or the diagnosis/prognosis? Oh, man. Bummer. I saw him a couple weeks ago playing at Muni and he looked great. |
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Post by aztech on May 29, 2024 11:00:43 GMT -8
There's a picture of Byrd on Facebook wearing a walking boot. Anyone know what it's from or the diagnosis/prognosis? Didn't he have the same injury during his frosh year? If so, hopefully it isn't the same foot. |
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Post by docmm on May 29, 2024 13:41:02 GMT -8
There's a picture of Byrd on Facebook wearing a walking boot. Anyone know what it's from or the diagnosis/prognosis? Didn't he have the same injury during his frosh year? If so, hopefully it isn't the same foot. It's his right foot. |
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