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Post by johneaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:06:46 GMT -8
It's amusing that many on the board want everyone to stop criticizing players because their feeling might get hurt and they'll leave. Are you serious? Don't you realize that kids this age have been dealing with people trashing each other on Social Media for just about their entire lives? Someone saying something on this board doesn't mean squat to these kids. They've been in a narcissistic bubble since they joined their first AAU team and everyone fussed over them. They've been getting tangible and intangible benefits ever since. Parrish is probably a "good kid" but also a spoiled, entitled brat who doesn't have the guts to say why he really left. He said all that crap to try and make us all think it was about the way he was treated. He thinks we're all fools. The guy sucked big time for at least the last half of the year, so don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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Post by ramrodd23 on Apr 29, 2024 17:07:13 GMT -8
In what way are fans not paying the players. Mesa foundation collects from fans to give to players. Fans buy jersey, player gets his cut, etc. The scholarship is not paid directly by fans (but is likely paid in part by tax payers), but nil is from the fans. I am also shocked parish can earn significantly more elsewhere. His game is mediocre, he whines too much,and his offense is below average. He transferred to a clearly inferior program. Good riddens. I don't care how you view it, these are still collegiate athletes and public criticism of them (that goes above and beyond, crossing boundaries) is wrong. I don't care how much money you donate to a foundation. Not anymore not with NIL. They are not collegiate athletes anymore. It is not really NIL. College athletics are using that as a shield. It is strictly pay to play. Period!
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:10:25 GMT -8
I don't have any problem with somebody criticizing a persons play when warranted, just as long as it doesn't get personal, etc....
Now that our dollars are funding the players, criticism should be expected by the players if they aren't living up to their billing, and that can be game to game, as well. Just stay classy.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 29, 2024 17:14:19 GMT -8
I don't care how you view it, these are still collegiate athletes and public criticism of them (that goes above and beyond, crossing boundaries) is wrong. I don't care how much money you donate to a foundation. It's professional athletics now. They are getting paid to play basketball while getting a degree on the side. If you think the vast majority of college players are getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, I have a beachfront property in Arizona to sell you. There are 362 D-1 teams, it's not a professional sport.
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Post by laaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:15:51 GMT -8
It's professional athletics now. They are getting paid to play basketball while getting a degree on the side. If you think the vast majority of college players are getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, I have a beachfront property in Arizona to sell you. There are 362 D-1 teams, it's not a professional sport. At the upper echelons it's a professional sport. I'll take you up on the Lake Havasu beach front property.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 29, 2024 17:17:52 GMT -8
If you think the vast majority of college players are getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, I have a beachfront property in Arizona to sell you. There are 362 D-1 teams, it's not a professional sport. At the upper echelons it's a professional sport. I'll take you up on the Lake Havasu beach front property. Only at the upper echelon, which isn't a change from anything of the past. The rich have always been rich. It doesn't change the point.
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Post by laaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:20:34 GMT -8
At the upper echelons it's a professional sport. I'll take you up on the Lake Havasu beach front property. Only at the upper echelon, which isn't a change from anything of the past. The rich have always been rich. It doesn't change the point. Your are right. You changed my mind. They are student athletes that are pursing a degree and can't be criticized.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:23:31 GMT -8
Only at the upper echelon, which isn't a change from anything of the past. The rich have always been rich. It doesn't change the point. Your are right. You changed my mind. They are student athletes that are pursing a degree and can't be criticized. I know you're being facetious, but of course you can criticize, especially with your hard earned money being invested into the players pockets, but with class. Nobody should get personal.
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Post by aztecswinagain on Apr 29, 2024 17:23:54 GMT -8
At the upper echelons it's a professional sport. I'll take you up on the Lake Havasu beach front property. Only at the upper echelon, which isn't a change from anything of the past. The rich have always been rich. It doesn't change the point. New Mexico isn’t upper echelon.. they kill us in NIL and paid 6 figures to retain Toppin and Dent. Also spent 6 figures on multiple players last portal season. There are actually a lot of teams paying players this way, it’s no longer just the Arizona and Kentuckys
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 29, 2024 17:24:10 GMT -8
Only at the upper echelon, which isn't a change from anything of the past. The rich have always been rich. It doesn't change the point. Your are right. You changed my mind. They are student athletes that are pursing a degree and can't be criticized. I'm not saying they can't be criticized at all. I'm saying that just because people donate to a foundation, that entitlement doesn't give anyone the right to go attack a player on social media. There's a difference between an off shooting night and the vitriol the players receive.
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Post by LostAztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:24:47 GMT -8
If I was a player. I wouldn't look at Social Media.
I'll go by what my Coaches, agents, and scouts have to say
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:25:03 GMT -8
Only at the upper echelon, which isn't a change from anything of the past. The rich have always been rich. It doesn't change the point. New Mexico isn’t upper echelon.. they kill us in NIL and paid 6 figures to retain Toppin and Dent. Also spent 6 figures on multiple players last portal season. There are actually a lot of teams paying players this way, it’s no longer just the Arizona and Kentuckys There's bidding wars going on in way more than the upper echelon conferences, that's for sure.
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Post by chris92065 on Apr 29, 2024 17:26:59 GMT -8
Dude is getting paid.
He is now open to criticism as a professional.
Grow up.
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Post by laaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:27:13 GMT -8
Your are right. You changed my mind. They are student athletes that are pursing a degree and can't be criticized. I'm not saying they can't be criticized at all. I'm saying that just because people donate to a foundation, that entitlement doesn't give anyone the right to go attack a player on social media. There's a difference between an off shooting night and the vitriol the players receive. Pointing out a players stats and how they played in a game is fair. Personal attacks should be off limits.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 29, 2024 17:28:16 GMT -8
If o was a player. I wouldn't look at Social Media. I'll go by what my Coaches, agents, and scouts have to say Yes, and you don't want to be known as "Rabbit ears." All it can do is get worse for you if that happens.
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Post by CbLsD on Apr 29, 2024 18:33:43 GMT -8
Your are right. You changed my mind. They are student athletes that are pursing a degree and can't be criticized. I'm not saying they can't be criticized at all. I'm saying that just because people donate to a foundation, that entitlement doesn't give anyone the right to go attack a player on social media. There's a difference between an off shooting night and the vitriol the players receive. Nobody is advocating attacking someone on social media, dude. You’re wrong on this matter, and that’s why you have about ten different people currently disagreeing with your position. People on this board have invested years of their lives cheering for SDSU. They have a right to their opinions just like anybody else. If a paid athlete doesn’t want to hear it from passionate fans, then they can pay their own way to school, not play sports, and choose whatever other path they’d like to pursue.
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Post by oldie on Apr 29, 2024 18:50:52 GMT -8
It’s crazy that a college a player is telling fans to pony up more money for their “salary” after they already buy tickets, cheer, support and travel for and with the team but you are not allowed to criticize their play. Oh yeah the full scholarship is worthless too. Incredible. 100%
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Post by oldie on Apr 29, 2024 18:58:00 GMT -8
He will be riding the pine for $300K. not bad. save your money, bud. you might need it playing for the Carjackistan mud puppies when you finally run out of transfer options.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 29, 2024 20:48:35 GMT -8
I'm not saying they can't be criticized at all. I'm saying that just because people donate to a foundation, that entitlement doesn't give anyone the right to go attack a player on social media. There's a difference between an off shooting night and the vitriol the players receive. Nobody is advocating attacking someone on social media, dude. You’re wrong on this matter, and that’s why you have about ten different people currently disagreeing with your position. People on this board have invested years of their lives cheering for SDSU. They have a right to their opinions just like anybody else. If a paid athlete doesn’t want to hear it from passionate fans, then they can pay their own way to school, not play sports, and choose whatever other path they’d like to pursue. And I disagree. It doesn't matter how many people share the same opinion, that really doesn't have any bearing on whether it has meaning or not. Agree to disagree.
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Post by sdsuballer on Apr 29, 2024 21:38:42 GMT -8
So much hate on this board. The kid was injured for 3/4 of the season which affected his game. The move to Ohio state was a business move. He gets more cash from NLI and the offense is more suited for his game. Until Dutcher can get a modern offense we will continue to lose kids.
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