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Post by hoobs on May 30, 2024 12:56:35 GMT -8
I think Kerr Kriisa is the one who most likely puts Butler on the bench... (I think he announced his transfer to Kentucky about a week after Butler). But take your pick... Oweh, Brea, & Robinson they all are going to give Lamont a heck of a challenge to get playing time. But IMO Kriisa is a 100% lock starter.
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Post by AzTex on May 30, 2024 13:16:35 GMT -8
With Kentucky's addition of bYU's 6'7 guard Jaxson Robinson to their roster, does Lamont even start? I'll be forever grateful to Butler for the joy he brought me when he made "The Shot." But since he transferred to another school for a bigger paycheck I don't really care what he does now.
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 13:35:25 GMT -8
I think Kerr Kriisa is the one who most likely puts Butler on the bench... (I think he announced his transfer to Kentucky about a week after Butler). But take your pick... Oweh, Brea, & Robinson they all are going to give Lamont a heck of a challenge to get playing time. But IMO Kriisa is a 100% lock starter. Oh yeah, he's a really good basketball player. A good defender as well. I would absolutely rather have Kerr, than Lamont if I had to choose between the two. He's also a REAL feisty competitor. Very demonstrative. I've seen him play quite often. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 30, 2024 14:16:18 GMT -8
I think Kerr Kriisa is the one who most likely puts Butler on the bench... (I think he announced his transfer to Kentucky about a week after Butler). But take your pick... Oweh, Brea, & Robinson they all are going to give Lamont a heck of a challenge to get playing time. But IMO Kriisa is a 100% lock starter. Oh yeah, he's a really good basketball player. A good defender as well. I would absolutely rather have Kerr, than Lamont if I had to choose between the two. He's also a REAL feisty competitor. Very demonstrative. I've seen him play quite often. Kerr is on his 3rd team in 4 years. I will take Lamont. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 14:34:00 GMT -8
Oh yeah, he's a really good basketball player. A good defender as well. I would absolutely rather have Kerr, than Lamont if I had to choose between the two. He's also a REAL feisty competitor. Very demonstrative. I've seen him play quite often. Kerr is on his 3rd team in 4 years. I will take Lamont. Do you know why this is his third team? I do not. Actually, it's not all that unusual nowadays, especially when money and playing time talks. 3 with Arizona, 1 with WV, and now with Kentucky. To me, not a big deal in these times. Not necessarily a red flag. |
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Post by aztecanthony on May 30, 2024 15:26:36 GMT -8
Kerr is on his 3rd team in 4 years. I will take Lamont. Do you know why this is his third team? I do not. Actually, it's not all that unusual nowadays, especially when money and playing time talks. 3 with Arizona, 1 with WV, and now with Kentucky. To me, not a big deal in these times. Not necessarily a red flag. Butler will be pressed for playing time, he averaged only 9 pts a game last season on a team who really sorely needed him to step up his offense, play making, He never did, Loyalties with Dutcher SDSU are gone now, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. |
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Post by coolethan on May 30, 2024 16:13:15 GMT -8
Butler will get plenty of minutes at UK. I fully expect a Keshad-like blowup due to the increased exposure he’ll receive. Lamont is a great player and will do what it takes to get his minutes.
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 17:15:17 GMT -8
Do you know why this is his third team? I do not. Actually, it's not all that unusual nowadays, especially when money and playing time talks. 3 with Arizona, 1 with WV, and now with Kentucky. To me, not a big deal in these times. Not necessarily a red flag. Butler will be pressed for playing time, he averaged only 9 pts a game last season on a team who really sorely needed him to step up his offense, play making, He never did, Loyalties with Dutcher SDSU are gone now, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. Yes, he'll play, but the only way I see him getting significant minutes is if he can start making shots more consistently. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 17:17:35 GMT -8
Butler will get plenty of minutes at UK. I fully expect a Keshad-like blowup due to the increased exposure he’ll receive. Lamont is a great player and will do what it takes to get his minutes. He has that opportunity, but he'll have to all of a sudden start making more buckets at a greater clip for those extended minutes. The only sure thing, at this point, is that they'll love him out there on the defensive end of it. |
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Post by jdaztec on May 30, 2024 19:39:29 GMT -8
Butler seems like a great young man and I wish him great success. I think living in Kentucky may be a much greater adjustment than playing for a new BB team.
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Post by docmm on May 30, 2024 19:57:39 GMT -8
Butler will get plenty of minutes at UK. I fully expect a Keshad-like blowup due to the increased exposure he’ll receive. Lamont is a great player and will do what it takes to get his minutes. He has that opportunity, but he'll have to all of a sudden start making more buckets at a greater clip for those extended minutes. The only sure thing, at this point, is that they'll love him out there on the defensive end of it. Kentucky was 2nd in the nation in scoring last year at 89.0 ppg. BYU was 22nd with 84.1 ppg. Between Wildcat tradition and Mark Pope's history, there's going to be a lot of running and gunning. If Butler can get out ahead of things he'll score a lot at the rim. It's when he tries to take on 3 guys in the paint that he has a hard time. His athleticism might really be able to shine in the open court. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 20:20:27 GMT -8
He has that opportunity, but he'll have to all of a sudden start making more buckets at a greater clip for those extended minutes. The only sure thing, at this point, is that they'll love him out there on the defensive end of it. Kentucky was 2nd in the nation in scoring last year at 89.0 ppg. BYU was 22nd with 84.1 ppg. Between Wildcat tradition and Mark Pope's history, there's going to be a lot of running and gunning. If Butler can get out ahead of things he'll score a lot at the rim. It's when he tries to take on 3 guys in the paint that he has a hard time. His athleticism might really be able to shine in the open court. That's possible, but I've also seen him run the court and still try and take on 2 to 3 guys at the rim. Maybe he'll make great strides out there with a new environment. Plus he'll still need to hit his jumper. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 30, 2024 20:24:40 GMT -8
Kerr is on his 3rd team in 4 years. I will take Lamont. Do you know why this is his third team? I do not. Actually, it's not all that unusual nowadays, especially when money and playing time talks. 3 with Arizona, 1 with WV, and now with Kentucky. To me, not a big deal in these times. Not necessarily a red flag. "money and playing time talks." Speaks for itself. He couldn't get the PT that he wanted at either Arizona or WV. I saw him in the Pac 12 tourney a couple years ago and he is not really a point guard and really more suited for shooting 3's off the bench. Here is his stat line: GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS 23 33.5 42.9 42.4 77.5 2.5 4.7 0.0 0.8 2.5 2.9 11.0 -WVU 35 31.1 37.2 36.6 76.7 2.4 5.1 0.0 0.6 2.3 2.6 9.9 -UA 33 29.6 34.8 33.6 81.6 2.5 4.7 0.1 0.6 1.8 2.2 9.7 -UA 8 22.9 33.3 36.8 100.0 0.5 2.4 0.0 0.4 1.5 1.3 5.5 -UA And this was playing in a more open style offense at UA. Either Kerr will be coming off the bench to shoot 3's or Lamont will be coming off the bench as a D and 3 guy. Both are 5th year guys. I don't see a lot of separation between the two. Obviously, Pope has seen Lamont the last few years and knows what he can do. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on May 30, 2024 20:26:20 GMT -8
Do you know why this is his third team? I do not. Actually, it's not all that unusual nowadays, especially when money and playing time talks. 3 with Arizona, 1 with WV, and now with Kentucky. To me, not a big deal in these times. Not necessarily a red flag. Butler will be pressed for playing time, he averaged only 9 pts a game last season on a team who really sorely needed him to step up his offense, play making, He never did, Loyalties with Dutcher SDSU are gone now, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. and Kerr average 9 points a game while at UA, a team that runs a more up tempo offense than SDSU. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 20:35:39 GMT -8
Do you know why this is his third team? I do not. Actually, it's not all that unusual nowadays, especially when money and playing time talks. 3 with Arizona, 1 with WV, and now with Kentucky. To me, not a big deal in these times. Not necessarily a red flag. "money and playing time talks." Speaks for itself. He couldn't get the PT that he wanted at either Arizona or WV. I saw him in the Pac 12 tourney a couple years ago and he is not really a point guard and really more suited for shooting 3's off the bench. Here is his stat line: GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS 23 33.5 42.9 42.4 77.5 2.5 4.7 0.0 0.8 2.5 2.9 11.0 -WVU 35 31.1 37.2 36.6 76.7 2.4 5.1 0.0 0.6 2.3 2.6 9.9 -UA 33 29.6 34.8 33.6 81.6 2.5 4.7 0.1 0.6 1.8 2.2 9.7 -UA 8 22.9 33.3 36.8 100.0 0.5 2.4 0.0 0.4 1.5 1.3 5.5 -UA And this was playing in a more open style offense at UA. Either Kerr will be coming off the bench to shoot 3's or Lamont will be coming off the bench as a D and 3 guy. Both are 5th year guys. I don't see a lot of separation between the two. Obviously, Pope has seen Lamont the last few years and knows what he can do. Here's Lamonts stat line. www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4433183/lamont-butlerKerrs is better in a lot of ways. Kerr will hit the late free throw. Lamont not so much, as of now. I'd take Kerr over Lamont all day long, with Lamont out there as a backup in defensive situations, and the heck out of there in free throw situations. Lamont is not the best ball handler as well. Kerr also averaged more assists and actually averaged more steals per game. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 20:37:17 GMT -8
Butler will be pressed for playing time, he averaged only 9 pts a game last season on a team who really sorely needed him to step up his offense, play making, He never did, Loyalties with Dutcher SDSU are gone now, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. and Kerr average 9 points a game while at UA, a team that runs a more up tempo offense than SDSU. Kerr wasn't the main go to shooter at UA. He filled it up at WV last year, and did well at UA. |
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Post by missiontrails on May 30, 2024 20:48:57 GMT -8
With Kentucky's addition of bYU's 6'7 guard Jaxson Robinson to their roster, does Lamont even start? I'll be forever grateful to Butler for the joy he brought me when he made "The Shot." But since he transferred to another school for a bigger paycheck I don't really care what he does now. Had he gone to the NBA or another professional league I would have supported him in that move. If I was a wise-ass, I'd smirk and say he DID go professional.  |
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Post by AzTex on May 30, 2024 21:12:29 GMT -8
I'll be forever grateful to Butler for the joy he brought me when he made "The Shot." But since he transferred to another school for a bigger paycheck I don't really care what he does now. Had he gone to the NBA or another professional league I would have supported him in that move. If I was a wise-ass, I'd smirk and say he DID go professional. And I'd agree. Of course he was pretty much a professional here making $200,000 last year. I was referring to professional leagues like the NBA or any of the many foreign leagues. But, I think you already know that.
College basketball should remain actual amateur student athletes playing against each other. The fact that college football and basketball have become increasingly nothing more than another professional league is starting to destroy my interest in either of them. I'm fighting against losing interest, but I don't know how long that'll last. |
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Post by missiontrails on May 30, 2024 22:22:48 GMT -8
If I was a wise-ass, I'd smirk and say he DID go professional. And I'd agree. Of course he was pretty much a professional here making $200,000 last year. I was referring to professional leagues like the NBA or any of the many foreign leagues. But, I think you already know that. College basketball should remain actual amateur student athletes playing against each other. The fact that college football and basketball have become increasingly nothing more than another professional league is starting to destroy my interest in either of them. I'm fighting against losing interest, but I don't know how long that'll last. Same.... |
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Post by johneaztec on May 30, 2024 23:01:59 GMT -8
If I was a wise-ass, I'd smirk and say he DID go professional. And I'd agree. Of course he was pretty much a professional here making $200,000 last year. I was referring to professional leagues like the NBA or any of the many foreign leagues. But, I think you already know that. College basketball should remain actual amateur student athletes playing against each other. The fact that college football and basketball have become increasingly nothing more than another professional league is starting to destroy my interest in either of them. I'm fighting against losing interest, but I don't know how long that'll last. I hear ya. I guess getting your College Education paid for and all the other perks that come with it, just wasn't enough. |
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