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Post by aztecryan on Jul 11, 2024 7:40:28 GMT -8
If you saw the headline in a mainstream publication: "Parkinson's Specialist Visited White House Eight Times Last Year" - What would your takeaway be?Worthy of research, certainly not going to bite on a headline, stick my head in the sand or single source as so many do. Good, except the average reader only sees the headline. The Post ran the story, it was IMMEDIATELY picked up by a host of conservative publications, despite being a complete non-story. And then the story gets updated, somewhere around paragraph 17....but the headline stays the same. Damage done.
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Post by North County Aztec on Jul 11, 2024 8:09:57 GMT -8
Well, well, haven't seen this before. Today July 11, 2024 6:45 a.m. betting averages have Willie Brown's girlfriend 2 points ahead of Joe. She's only 7 points behind Joe polling amongst democrats. Even Big Mike is getting some democrat love. Go figure!!! Looks like dark days are ahead for the left. www.realclearpolitics.com/ABC/Washington Post 7/10 Poll has Harris 2 pts ahead of Trump...Biden tied with Trump...Trump ahead by 1 pt when Kennedy, Stein and West are involved...Biden probably isn't bowing out...but if he did...Harris would be formidable...money would pour in...and a debate would be disastrous for Trump because she would surely point out all his obvious flaws...so, be careful for what you ask for. I'm not asking for anything. Be careful when you single source. She's a walking, cackling disaster polling against The Orange man. I am aware she's polling ahead of Biden in some left leaning polls, however if you consider polling averages she's 7 points behind Joe and he's 3 points behind Trump.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 11, 2024 8:40:41 GMT -8
ABC/Washington Post 7/10 Poll has Harris 2 pts ahead of Trump...Biden tied with Trump...Trump ahead by 1 pt when Kennedy, Stein and West are involved...Biden probably isn't bowing out...but if he did...Harris would be formidable...money would pour in...and a debate would be disastrous for Trump because she would surely point out all his obvious flaws...so, be careful for what you ask for. I'm not asking for anything. Be careful when you single source. She's a walking, cackling disaster polling against The Orange man Yeah, she's Black...a DEI hire...affirmative action poster child...an inferior female...racist/bigots surely won't vote for her...but...everyone who doesn't want Trump in office surely will...everyone who is not down with Project 2025 will...those who want abortion to be a national right...those who want a good economy...they'll vote for her...those who want to be able to pursue life, liberty and happiness will...remember she won CA atty general and the US Senate race...that means she's a bare-knuckle fighter...she has the DEI ability to prosecute Trump...lastly nobody thinks Trump competent to run the nation...the reason he is in contention is because white supremacist and many white Americans fear the future is not in their favor...that they are unable to compete with much smarter "minorities"...therefore, they are looking for a candidate to tilt the board into their favor...especially uneducated white men...who don't have white affirmative action (racism, prejudice, discrimination) to lean on in a democratic society...which is why they are voting for a white dictator...on the flip side...Harris will energize Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, women and LGBTWXOs...whites who love democracy and are able to compete without white affirmative action.
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Post by azson on Jul 11, 2024 11:21:22 GMT -8
Once again, Jon Stewart nails it (16 mins.):
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 11, 2024 11:39:28 GMT -8
Once again, Jon Stewart nails it (16 mins.): While I appreciate all the hard work he's done with a number of causes, this isn't anything special at all.
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Post by azson on Jul 11, 2024 11:49:57 GMT -8
Once again, Jon Stewart nails it (16 mins.): While I appreciate all the hard work he's done with a number of causes, this isn't anything special at all. I heard your same response from others in July 2016 when Michael Moore warned that a status quo campaign in those last 3-4 months would result in a Trump presidency...and here we are again.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 11, 2024 12:02:00 GMT -8
While I appreciate all the hard work he's done with a number of causes, this isn't anything special at all. I heard your same response from others in July 2016 when Michael Moore warned that a status quo campaign in those last 3-4 months would result in a Trump presidency...and here we are again. Which really isn't what happened....at all. Yes, mistakes were made by the Clinton campaign. But she wins EASILY without Comey and Russian intervention, point blank. 538 estimated that the Comey letter cost her three points alone. At that juncture, less than two weeks before ED, it's a massive swing. Clinton wins the Electoral College without it, and goes to one of the largest popular vote wins in recent memory. Those questions Jon Stewart asked about have been asked already. Those conversations have been had. Joe Biden's the only candidate in the field who has defeated Donald Trump previously. As I've said over and over, just replacing candidates in mid-July, weeks before the convention....is political suicide. It will be challenged in court and you'll be handing them the election. The noise coming from people is coming from those who don't understand how this process actually works. Guess where the legal challenge goes? To the Supreme Court. The same Supreme Court who crafted a specific ruling for Donald Trump to escape prosecution in Florida, Georgia and Washington D.C. If it's anything remotely controversial, they are siding on the Trump side of things....and we all lose, anyway.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 11, 2024 12:22:44 GMT -8
Once again, Jon Stewart nails it (16 mins.): Oh my gosh. That was so right on!!! It's so frustrating that these two candidates are what we have to choose from. Unbelievable.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 11, 2024 12:25:03 GMT -8
Once again, Jon Stewart nails it (16 mins.): Oh my gosh. That was so right on!!! It's so frustrating that these two candidates are what we have to choose from. Unbelievable. What was the defining accomplishment of Trump's first term?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 11, 2024 12:28:28 GMT -8
Oh my gosh. That was so right on!!! It's so frustrating that these two candidates are what we have to choose from. Unbelievable. What was the defining accomplishment of Trump's first term? There wasn't a "defining" one. Why ask?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 11, 2024 12:32:25 GMT -8
What was the defining accomplishment of Trump's first term? There wasn't a "defining" one. Why ask? So then why are we feigning outrage, and repeating something that you've said a half dozen times already? When you're doing a side-by-side comparison of policy, achievement, merit and legacy....who wins? I know you expressed outrage when I said Biden was one of the most successful first term presidents in modern history. But if we're speaking of age, or of a candidate potentially dying in office: It's Donald Trump and presumably J.D. Vance at this point on the Republican side. If the near octogenarian dies in office, are you comfortable with J.D. Vance running the country?
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 11, 2024 12:42:53 GMT -8
There wasn't a "defining" one. Why ask? So then why are we feigning outrage, and repeating something that you've said a half dozen times already? When you're doing a side-by-side comparison of policy, achievement, merit and legacy....who wins? I know you expressed outrage when I said Biden was one of the most successful first term presidents in modern history. But if we're speaking of age, or of a candidate potentially dying in office: It's Donald Trump and presumably J.D. Vance at this point on the Republican side. If the near octogenarian dies in office, are you comfortable with J.D. Vance running the country? To me, when Trump was in office all the pertinent numbers were very good, such as unemployment, inflation, jobs, economy, etc.... What he did that wiped all of that out for me was the division he created. It was really horrible, and I don't want to see that again. So, as far as merit goes, he did well in the main areas that most people look for as described in my post. Biden does not blow him out of the water in that regard. Trump actually had better numbers than Biden in those areas, but I know you have your reasons for that. Great. I personally don't want a piece of crap person in office (Trump) if at all possible. I also don't want Biden in office fur my other reasons that I've stated in the past, and present. That's why I say that it's really horrible that this is what we have to choose from.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 11, 2024 13:23:07 GMT -8
So then why are we feigning outrage, and repeating something that you've said a half dozen times already? When you're doing a side-by-side comparison of policy, achievement, merit and legacy....who wins? I know you expressed outrage when I said Biden was one of the most successful first term presidents in modern history. But if we're speaking of age, or of a candidate potentially dying in office: It's Donald Trump and presumably J.D. Vance at this point on the Republican side. If the near octogenarian dies in office, are you comfortable with J.D. Vance running the country? To me, when Trump was in office all the pertinent numbers were very good, such as unemployment, inflation, jobs, economy, etc.... What he did that wiped all of that out for me was the division he created. It was really horrible, and I don't want to see that again. So, as far as merit goes, he did well in the main areas that most people look for as described in my post. Biden does not blow him out of the water in that regard. Trump actually had better numbers than Biden in those areas, but I know you have your reasons for that. Great. I personally don't want a piece of crap person in office (Trump) if at all possible. I also don't want Biden in office fur my other reasons that I've stated in the past, and present. That's why I say that it's really horrible that this is what we have to choose from. In order for this to be a valid comparison, you'll have to go back to Trump's predecessor. The numbers were good because he inherited a more than solid economy. Obama's last three years in office: 8.1 million jobs created. Trump's first three years: 6.6 million. In teems of unemployment rates, Trump underperformed Obama's last three years, too. Trump extended Obama's monthly job growth prior to the pandemic, from 76 months to 113. Unfortunately, it didn't last. So in order to compare now, we have to go back to what Biden inherited: High inflation, unemployment, low consumer confidence, supply chain issues and instability. No, Biden doesn't blow Trump out of the water, even accounting for the variables. But most of Biden's economic metrics are better, especially in GDP. The economy performs significantly better under Democrat leadership, dating back to World War II, so that's not overly surprising. You're going to have to reconcile that what this is about is just a simple choice, on a macro level, to dispel chaos and combat instability. Economic forecasts under a second Trump term are *terrible.* His tax cuts would have major effects on a variety of economic sectors, none of them positive.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 11, 2024 15:05:26 GMT -8
Biden, earlier today, introduces the President of Ukraine as, "President Putin."
Oops.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 11, 2024 16:28:42 GMT -8
And does Harris know she has been replaced as VP by Trump?
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Post by aardvark on Jul 11, 2024 16:29:00 GMT -8
Anyway.....
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 11, 2024 16:32:08 GMT -8
Not bad Joe...now let's have Trump do the same news conference on the same subject matter...let's see how he handles it and his command of the subjects/issues.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Jul 11, 2024 16:33:17 GMT -8
Biden, earlier today, introduces the President of Ukraine as, "President Putin." Oops. Gaffing is genuine Joe Biden.....
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 12, 2024 10:18:23 GMT -8
Meanwhile, in things that actually are relevant..
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Post by azson on Jul 12, 2024 11:10:52 GMT -8
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