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Post by uwphoto on Mar 30, 2024 19:22:12 GMT -8
trump has poisoned America...and I don't know if we are coming back. I'll ask you Musician, what has trump left sacred in America? He has debased our institutions, our history and its most revered individuals, and finally religion..not that I'm religious. I can give you plenty of examples, but I'd be wasting my time typing for you..wouldn't I? Of course he has put all the focus on himself and built a cult following, because he is enabled by the likes of you. Most intelligent, worldly, people do not understand it. All of his failings and attacks on human decency, you cult members swallow like the ducks in Europe being force fed for pate'. What do you have left if he disappeared tomorrow? You all went so far in, that arguments for human decency would fall flat. the blind trump followers have given up everything. This post is nothing but regurgitated liberal rubbish. Poisoning America? Debasing our institutions? What do you call defunding the police? Cashless bail? Open borders? Anti-Semitism? Those are pillars of the liberal agenda. The Democratic Party is as corrupt as they come. Biden, Menendez, Schumer, Pelosi and dozens of other Dems go hand and hand with corrupt. They still retain their positions, because of corruption. regurgitated? I wrote this myself, and I virtually never cut n paste on here unlike you and ptsdtroll. Anti-semitism? My posts suggest otherwise. the cult is strong. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Mar 30, 2024 19:36:32 GMT -8
If I’m remembering correctly the two major candidates have the lowest combined approval rating in history. RFK is the only candidate that is in the plus category. In a normal presidential election year an anti-system third party candidate would not be polling at 10%. I can’t support Biden or Trump, most likely my vote will be for uncertainty hopefully sending message America doesn’t want garbage for president. Can RFK win, no way, but as described that’s not the purpose. I read somewhere nearly 30% of American view the two parties as unfavorable and 60% believe a third major party is a must. Perhaps the uncertainty of 2024 signifies a badly needed realignment around a new era of political reform. One can only hope. RFK’s running mate is an unknown outside of the tech industry. Unlike the current cackling clown labeled as VP, she’s brilliant, she’s young and brings a fresh look on our system. I'm voting for change. Yeah exactly, the amount of complacency by both parties is sad. The current political system doesn't produce good outcomes. Third parties need to be given more opportunity to succeed. Mechanisms such as ranked voting, and more equality in media coverage of candidates outside of the two main parties, would go a long way to fixing the issue. I think the media is as corrupt as it gets. But, we or any party should NOT control the media or make any attempt to do so. It is for the people to decide. A third party can only be successful if both sides of the fence will admit their candidate is garbage. This is a perfect time to do so. Both candidates are garbage. PERIOD!!! Unfortunately, neither side will admit that when the obvious is starring them in the face. I would submit, have a spine and don't vote for Biden or Trump. If not, to me that indicates both sides have a nose ring so deeply implanted they follow the direction they've been raised or told with the inability to think for themselves. Just read the foolishness posted here and 99% of the the foolishness is very obvious. I won't mention you by name Ryan, but please correct my spelling errors, much of my vision is vanishing. Hopefully you live long enough to enjoy the hilariousness of a near 80 year old.
I don't want any idiot on any side of the isle telling me what I should or should not believe. This message boards leans left, I truly feel sorry most here fall in the trap of the nose ring crowd. Some have zero ability to think for themselves and find it fun to demean and criticize if anyone thinks differently. They are the true problem and they are the reason the country is divided. There is ZERO conciliation with them. I'll stand against both parties. Sure many can say my vote is a wasted vote. I get that, but I had the spine to vote against garbage. How about you?
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 30, 2024 19:49:03 GMT -8
Yeah exactly, the amount of complacency by both parties is sad. The current political system doesn't produce good outcomes. Third parties need to be given more opportunity to succeed. Mechanisms such as ranked voting, and more equality in media coverage of candidates outside of the two main parties, would go a long way to fixing the issue. I think the media is as corrupt as it gets. But, we or any party should NOT control the media or make any attempt to do so. It is for the people to decide. A third party can only be successful if both sides of the fence will admit their candidate is garbage. This is a perfect time to do so. Both candidates are garbage. PERIOD!!! Unfortunately, neither side will admit that when the obvious is starring them in the face. I would submit, have a spine and don't vote for Biden or Trump. If not, to me that indicates both sides have a nose ring so deeply implanted they follow the direction they've been raised or told with the inability to think for themselves. Just read the foolishness posted here and 99% of the the foolishness is very obvious. I won't mention you by name Ryan, but please correct my spelling errors, much of my vision is vanishing. Hopefully you live long enough to enjoy the hilariousness of a near 80 year old.
I don't want any idiot on any side of the isle telling me what I should or should not believe. This message boards leans left, I truly feel sorry most here fall in the trap of the nose ring crowd. Some have zero ability to think for themselves and find it fun to demean and criticize if anyone thinks differently. They are the true problem and they are the reason the country is divided. There is ZERO conciliation with them. I'll stand against both parties. Sure many can say my vote is a wasted vote. I get that, but I had the spine to vote against garbage. How about you?
I'm voting for democracy. I think that's about as important as it gets, personally. Just as a basic point of fact. I'm not disillusioned to the fact Biden is a weak incumbent and far from my ideal choice, given the dynamics in play. But another Trump term imperils our democracy. It's just that simple, for me, on a complex topic. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Mar 31, 2024 13:49:44 GMT -8
I think the media is as corrupt as it gets. But, we or any party should NOT control the media or make any attempt to do so. It is for the people to decide. A third party can only be successful if both sides of the fence will admit their candidate is garbage. This is a perfect time to do so. Both candidates are garbage. PERIOD!!! Unfortunately, neither side will admit that when the obvious is starring them in the face. I would submit, have a spine and don't vote for Biden or Trump. If not, to me that indicates both sides have a nose ring so deeply implanted they follow the direction they've been raised or told with the inability to think for themselves. Just read the foolishness posted here and 99% of the the foolishness is very obvious. I won't mention you by name Ryan, but please correct my spelling errors, much of my vision is vanishing. Hopefully you live long enough to enjoy the hilariousness of a near 80 year old.
I don't want any idiot on any side of the isle telling me what I should or should not believe. This message boards leans left, I truly feel sorry most here fall in the trap of the nose ring crowd. Some have zero ability to think for themselves and find it fun to demean and criticize if anyone thinks differently. They are the true problem and they are the reason the country is divided. There is ZERO conciliation with them. I'll stand against both parties. Sure many can say my vote is a wasted vote. I get that, but I had the spine to vote against garbage. How about you?
I'm voting for democracy. I think that's about as important as it gets, personally. Just as a basic point of fact. I'm not disillusioned to the fact Biden is a weak incumbent and far from my ideal choice, given the dynamics in play. But another Trump term imperils our democracy. It's just that simple, for me, on a complex topic. When one side seeks to actively imprison and erase from the ballot it’s opponent, THAT’S NOT DEMOCRACY you partisan clown. You dems attempt to demonize, demonetize and imprison your political opponents, and the scary part is you have the largest microphone in the world to do it with. It’s obvious you intolerant f**ks won’t be satisfied until every Republican is dead or imprisoned. Enjoy hell. |
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 31, 2024 14:14:38 GMT -8
I'm voting for democracy. I think that's about as important as it gets, personally. Just as a basic point of fact. I'm not disillusioned to the fact Biden is a weak incumbent and far from my ideal choice, given the dynamics in play. But another Trump term imperils our democracy. It's just that simple, for me, on a complex topic. When one side seeks to actively imprison and erase from the ballot it’s opponent, THAT’S NOT DEMOCRACY you partisan clown. You dems attempt to demonize, demonetize and imprison your political opponents, and the scary part is you have the largest microphone in the world to do it with. It’s obvious you intolerant f**ks won’t be satisfied until every Republican is dead or imprisoned. Enjoy hell. good bye...yer gone dude! Biden didn't post a picture of your hero in a pick up truck, bound by a rope, with his eyes closed(alive or dead?). "intolerant" regarding trump? Do you ever look in the f****** mirror? You feel attacked (dead or imprisoned) because you have bought the entire orange clown show. "Only I can fix it" , trump Bibles, "I know more about ISIS than the generals"..and endless on an on. His former employees are saying he's incompetent. You are a hook, line and sinker guy....just like he was looking for. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 31, 2024 15:17:57 GMT -8
I'm voting for democracy. I think that's about as important as it gets, personally. Just as a basic point of fact. I'm not disillusioned to the fact Biden is a weak incumbent and far from my ideal choice, given the dynamics in play. But another Trump term imperils our democracy. It's just that simple, for me, on a complex topic. When one side seeks to actively imprison and erase from the ballot it’s opponent, THAT’S NOT DEMOCRACY you partisan clown. You dems attempt to demonize, demonetize and imprison your political opponents, and the scary part is you have the largest microphone in the world to do it with. It’s obvious you intolerant f**ks won’t be satisfied until every Republican is dead or imprisoned. Enjoy hell. Do you feel better now? Believe it or not, it's possible to be rational here. There is no "side" actively trying to imprison anyone. This is how the justice system works - When you commit a host of crimes as a private citizen, you're charged with those crimes. The investigation(s) into Donald Trump existed months prior to his declaration of candidacy. The simple fact is he declared to *avoid* prosecution - But that's not how it works, shockingly enough. Raising your voice doesn't improve your argument, it just makes it more obnoxious and false. I'll say it again: If Donald Trump had returned the classified material when asked, either the first, second or third time...he would never have been charged with a crime. Had he not tampered with the Georgia election results and threatened public officials, he would not have been charged. Democracy says that a president under active indictment can still A) Run and B) Actually hold public office. The problem here isn't Democrats, it's your willingness to blindly look the other way when accountability comes calling. Sorry, but we're not sorry. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 31, 2024 15:28:45 GMT -8
I'm voting for democracy. I think that's about as important as it gets, personally. Just as a basic point of fact. I'm not disillusioned to the fact Biden is a weak incumbent and far from my ideal choice, given the dynamics in play. But another Trump term imperils our democracy. It's just that simple, for me, on a complex topic. When one side seeks to actively imprison and erase from the ballot it’s opponent, THAT’S NOT DEMOCRACY you partisan clown. You dems attempt to demonize, demonetize and imprison your political opponents, and the scary part is you have the largest microphone in the world to do it with. It’s obvious you intolerant f**ks won’t be satisfied until every Republican is dead or imprisoned. Enjoy hell. The irony of your statement, ridiculous, melodramatic hyperbole aside: There's a large swath of Democrats who actually think Merrick Garland was far too lax in opening investigations. NARA, for example, didn't contact the DOJ for *over a year* after Trump's term ended. Garland is the most apolitical AG this century, it's really not close. The victim complex you've built is impressive, but it's entirely unfounded. |
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 31, 2024 16:07:48 GMT -8
When one side seeks to actively imprison and erase from the ballot it’s opponent, THAT’S NOT DEMOCRACY you partisan clown. You dems attempt to demonize, demonetize and imprison your political opponents, and the scary part is you have the largest microphone in the world to do it with. It’s obvious you intolerant f**ks won’t be satisfied until every Republican is dead or imprisoned. Enjoy hell. The irony of your statement, ridiculous, melodramatic hyperbole aside: There's a large swath of Democrats who actually think Merrick Garland was far too lax in opening investigations. NARA, for example, didn't contact the DOJ for *over a year* after Trump's term ended. Garland is the most apolitical AG this century, it's really not close. The victim complex you've built is impressive, but it's entirely unfounded. Musician....self inflicted wound. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Mar 31, 2024 16:14:19 GMT -8
When one side seeks to actively imprison and erase from the ballot it’s opponent, THAT’S NOT DEMOCRACY you partisan clown. You dems attempt to demonize, demonetize and imprison your political opponents, and the scary part is you have the largest microphone in the world to do it with. It’s obvious you intolerant f**ks won’t be satisfied until every Republican is dead or imprisoned. Enjoy hell. Do you feel better now? Believe it or not, it's possible to be rational here. There is no "side" actively trying to imprison anyone. This is how the justice system works - When you commit a host of crimes as a private citizen, you're charged with those crimes. The investigation(s) into Donald Trump existed months prior to his declaration of candidacy. The simple fact is he declared to *avoid* prosecution - But that's not how it works, shockingly enough. Raising your voice doesn't improve your argument, it just makes it more obnoxious and false. I'll say it again: If Donald Trump had returned the classified material when asked, either the first, second or third time...he would never have been charged with a crime. Had he not tampered with the Georgia election results and threatened public officials, he would not have been charged. Democracy says that a president under active indictment can still A) Run and B) Actually hold public office. The problem here isn't Democrats, it's your willingness to blindly look the other way when accountability comes calling. Sorry, but we're not sorry. Ok, I’m a little calmer. It’s the Democrats who are charging Trump, a partisan effort which seems to be gettIng repeatedly ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Biden did the exact same thing btw, classified documents in his minimal security garage, he was called a senile old man and that was all. A complete double standard, it happens so often democrat voters barely notice it anymore. Much of the argument against Trump is, ‘we have to stop him now or else he will become just like Adolf Hitler’……which falls apart when you consider he has already been president and non democratic voters know what to expect. To everyone who is outside the Democratic constituency a.k.a. people who have not been sold the anti-Trump propaganda, President Trump‘s first term actually seemed pretty darn good. Much much better than Biden, and his runaway inflation, Astronomical gas prices and 15 million illegal border crossings. We know now what to expect from a second term of President Trump. There is no mystery. The economy will be strong, he will protect American companies with tariffs, he will build a wall along the southern border, something which both parties now agree is the best course of action. Trump will also argue with the press, which by the way, was absolutely hilarious. Under Trump, there were no wars and the situation in Eastern Europe seemed stable without the expansionist wars we have seen from Putin while Obama and Biden have been in office. I’m sure there is nothing that will ever convince you to vote for Donald Trump. Unfortunately given the alternative of a frail senile old man, Donald Trump is now the only reasonable choice. |
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 31, 2024 16:42:12 GMT -8
Do you feel better now? Believe it or not, it's possible to be rational here. There is no "side" actively trying to imprison anyone. This is how the justice system works - When you commit a host of crimes as a private citizen, you're charged with those crimes. The investigation(s) into Donald Trump existed months prior to his declaration of candidacy. The simple fact is he declared to *avoid* prosecution - But that's not how it works, shockingly enough. Raising your voice doesn't improve your argument, it just makes it more obnoxious and false. I'll say it again: If Donald Trump had returned the classified material when asked, either the first, second or third time...he would never have been charged with a crime. Had he not tampered with the Georgia election results and threatened public officials, he would not have been charged. Democracy says that a president under active indictment can still A) Run and B) Actually hold public office. The problem here isn't Democrats, it's your willingness to blindly look the other way when accountability comes calling. Sorry, but we're not sorry. Ok, I’m a little calmer. It’s the Democrats who are charging Trump, a partisan effort which seems to be gettIng repeatedly ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Biden did the exact same thing btw, classified documents in his minimal security garage, he was called a senile old man and that was all. A complete double standard, it happens so often democrat voters barely notice it anymore. Much of the argument against Trump is, ‘we have to stop him now or else he will become just like Adolf Hitler’……which falls apart when you consider he has already been president and non democratic voters know what to expect. To everyone who is outside the Democratic constituency a.k.a. people who have not been sold the anti-Trump propaganda, President Trump‘s first term actually seemed pretty darn good. Much much better than Biden, and his runaway inflation, Astronomical gas prices and 15 million illegal border crossings. We know now what to expect from a second term of President Trump. There is no mystery. The economy will be strong, he will protect American companies with tariffs, he will build a wall along the southern border, something which both parties now agree is the best course of action. Trump will also argue with the press, which by the way, was absolutely hilarious. Under Trump, there were no wars and the situation in Eastern Europe seemed stable without the expansionist wars we have seen from Putin while Obama and Biden have been in office. I’m sure there is nothing that will ever convince you to vote for Donald Trump. Unfortunately given the alternative of a frail senile old man, Donald Trump is now the only reasonable choice. his former employees say otherwise...your answer is.....rinos?? |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 31, 2024 17:01:33 GMT -8
Do you feel better now? Believe it or not, it's possible to be rational here. There is no "side" actively trying to imprison anyone. This is how the justice system works - When you commit a host of crimes as a private citizen, you're charged with those crimes. The investigation(s) into Donald Trump existed months prior to his declaration of candidacy. The simple fact is he declared to *avoid* prosecution - But that's not how it works, shockingly enough. Raising your voice doesn't improve your argument, it just makes it more obnoxious and false. I'll say it again: If Donald Trump had returned the classified material when asked, either the first, second or third time...he would never have been charged with a crime. Had he not tampered with the Georgia election results and threatened public officials, he would not have been charged. Democracy says that a president under active indictment can still A) Run and B) Actually hold public office. The problem here isn't Democrats, it's your willingness to blindly look the other way when accountability comes calling. Sorry, but we're not sorry. Ok, I’m a little calmer. It’s the Democrats who are charging Trump, a partisan effort which seems to be gettIng repeatedly ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. Biden did the exact same thing btw, classified documents in his minimal security garage, he was called a senile old man and that was all. A complete double standard, it happens so often democrat voters barely notice it anymore. Much of the argument against Trump is, ‘we have to stop him now or else he will become just like Adolf Hitler’……which falls apart when you consider he has already been president and non democratic voters know what to expect. To everyone who is outside the Democratic constituency a.k.a. people who have not been sold the anti-Trump propaganda, President Trump‘s first term actually seemed pretty darn good. Much much better than Biden, and his runaway inflation, Astronomical gas prices and 15 million illegal border crossings. We know now what to expect from a second term of President Trump. There is no mystery. The economy will be strong, he will protect American companies with tariffs, he will build a wall along the southern border, something which both parties now agree is the best course of action. Trump will also argue with the press, which by the way, was absolutely hilarious. Under Trump, there were no wars and the situation in Eastern Europe seemed stable without the expansionist wars we have seen from Putin while Obama and Biden have been in office. I’m sure there is nothing that will ever convince you to vote for Donald Trump. Unfortunately given the alternative of a frail senile old man, Donald Trump is now the only reasonable choice. Right away, no. Merrick Garland is an Independent, not a Democrat. He's the Attorney General, he has the final say on whether federal charges are filed. He authorized the execution of the search warrant in August of 2022 on Mar-A-Lago. He's not a Democrat. So that logic falls apart very quickly. Aren't we tired of the witch hunt excuse? Maybe, just maybe, if you don't break the law with impunity, you won't be under suspicion or investigation. Not once throughout this entire process have you ever come to grips or absolved yourself of the fact that Trump broke the law, repeatedly. As a private citizen, you are not afforded immunity from prosecution. If I went outside and committed armed robbery, I would be arrested. It's that simple. The Supreme Court hasn't ruled on anything, outside of Trump staying on the general ballot. Really not sure what you're referring to there. Oral arguments are scheduled for next month for the presidential immunity determination. Nothing has been decided...and that's not a badge of honor, it's a gigantic stain on the legitimacy of the Supreme Court itself. No, Joe Biden didn't do the exact same thing. He returned the documents, unprompted, without being issued a federal subpoena. Predictably, you'd like to conflate the two. However, Trump wasn't charged with mishandling the information, he was charged under willfully retaining the information. As I've said numerous times, Garland would never have charged Trump at all had he simply complied with NARA's request. The person who investigated Joe Biden for months concluded there was no similarly between the two, and he's a registered Republican, Trump-appointed in Maryland. For the Trump/Hitler argument: Yes, Trump has already been president. However, a LOT has changed since then. Trump removed a large portion of the personnel in the RNC, replacing them with Trump loyalists and his own daughter. Trump has repeatedly, incessantly and tirelessly threatened to issue mass deportations without due process. He's threatened to be a "dictator" on day one. Regardless of whether he's bluffing or just full of $#!+, he imperils democracy. He was an abject failure in his first term, with rampant corruption throughout his own DOJ. Bill Barr, you know? Under Biden, the economy has been *better* than it was under Trump. Facts are important. Prior to the pandemic, Trump had inherited a stellar economy from Obama that was in the midst of a strong business cycle. GDP growth was unremarkable, but fine enough. Then, the pandemic hit. The failures Trump experienced damaged consumer confidence, eroded purchasing power and sent the economy reeling. You're finally right about one thing: I will not vote for Donald Trump. I will not vote for anyone with a track record of abuses, credibly charged with disseminating classified intelligence and endangering national security. I will not vote for anyone who has been found liable for sexual assault and has a sordid history of being a serial predator. And I'm proud of that, thankfully. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 1, 2024 9:09:21 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 1, 2024 14:08:14 GMT -8
The odds have narrowed significantly for the presidency - Trump still leads at +100, but Biden has gone from +250 to +146.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 1, 2024 15:55:43 GMT -8
The odds have narrowed significantly for the presidency - Trump still leads at +100, but Biden has gone from +250 to +146. Donald Trump +113 47% Joe Biden +113 47% Robert Kennedy Jr. +1567 6% +1.00% change www.thelines.com/odds/election/ |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 1, 2024 16:04:36 GMT -8
The odds have narrowed significantly for the presidency - Trump still leads at +100, but Biden has gone from +250 to +146. Donald Trump +113 47% Joe Biden +113 47% Robert Kennedy Jr. +1567 6% +1.00% change www.thelines.com/odds/election/Kennedy should drop out, but he won't. He's just guaranteeing more Trump votes. |
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 1, 2024 16:36:25 GMT -8
The odds have narrowed significantly for the presidency - Trump still leads at +100, but Biden has gone from +250 to +146. Will/Can the odds for the presidency fluctuate in the same manner as sporting events? For example, when they need more money put on a certain team or event, they change the odds. Sometimes the true odds come out right before the event. Or, is it different in the case of a presidency? I don't know enough about it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 1, 2024 16:48:18 GMT -8
The odds have narrowed significantly for the presidency - Trump still leads at +100, but Biden has gone from +250 to +146. Will/Can the odds for the presidency fluctuate in the same manner as sporting events? For example, when they need more money put on a certain team or event, they change the odds. Sometimes the true odds come out right before the event. Or, is it different in the case of a presidency? I don't know enough about it. This isn't how odds work. Books generate a line via an algorithm with the goal to generate two way betting action. Action then drives the lines. They don't arbitrarily move betting lines to generate "needs" - It's the exact opposite, really. The house will always have a liability, one way or another, unless sharp bettors and massive public action are on the same side of a line, which is rare. In the NFL, for example, a game ending on 3 is the likeliest outcome. It takes respected action to move the line off that number. The books aren't rooting for any particular team, outside of where their liability lies. The lines here will move back and forth all year, since there's no US market for presidential odds. Less market liquidity equals more oscillating. |
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 2, 2024 13:30:26 GMT -8
Kennedy should drop out, but he won't. He's just guaranteeing more Trump votes. He's pulling votes from both Trump and Biden, which is why he has a legitimate chance of winning. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 2, 2024 13:55:39 GMT -8
Kennedy should drop out, but he won't. He's just guaranteeing more Trump votes. He's pulling votes from both Trump and Biden, which is why he has a legitimate chance of winning. Back here on Earth, no, he's not taking votes from Trump. He has zero shot at winning. Zero. He's not on the Trump scale, but he's a danger in his own way. |
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 2, 2024 14:07:25 GMT -8
He's pulling votes from both Trump and Biden, which is why he has a legitimate chance of winning. Back here on Earth, no, he's not taking votes from Trump. He has zero shot at winning. Zero. He's not on the Trump scale, but he's a danger in his own way. Biden is dangerous in his own way. Voting for Biden is voting for Zionism. Voting for Biden is voting for a geriatric with significant cognitive issues. |
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