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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 8:32:37 GMT -8
Would accomplish absolutely nothing, unfortunately.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 7, 2024 9:03:35 GMT -8
Guess the Padres are just waiting until the 2nd half of the season, where in Shildt's 2 full seasons as a manager with the Cardinals, each of those seasons the Cardinals played the 2nd half 20 games over .500.
Or something.
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Post by azson on Jun 7, 2024 9:33:23 GMT -8
I'm still waiting for Manny's "wait til we start raking..." promise from last year.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 7, 2024 9:37:21 GMT -8
Guess the Padres are just waiting until the 2nd half of the season, where in Shildt's 2 full seasons as a manager with the Cardinals, each of those seasons the Cardinals played the 2nd half 20 games over .500. Or something. That's encouraging. Maybe meaningless, or maybe not. We'll see. |
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Post by aardvark on Jun 7, 2024 18:01:40 GMT -8
Back-to-back?
Damn.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 18:25:24 GMT -8
Fernando is on his way back. Data looks really encouraging. Maybe not to peak 2021 levels because of the ball and offense being down across the league, but an improvement over 2023.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 7, 2024 19:15:10 GMT -8
Fernando is on his way back. Data looks really encouraging. Maybe not to peak 2021 levels because of the ball and offense being down across the league, but an improvement over 2023. Hopefully he can recover to where he was at pre shoulder surgery. I don't think that it was necessarily the right decision for him to get surgery. Shoulder mobility is valuable. |
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Post by aardvark on Jun 7, 2024 19:38:59 GMT -8
Pfaadt? Pffft, pffft, pffft.
Nice to see the bottom of the order join in the fun tonight.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 7, 2024 19:52:51 GMT -8
Great. Peralta steps in and just s**TS the bed. We have very average low leverage relief pitchers. Horrible.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 7, 2024 19:56:12 GMT -8
Estrada's not surprising batters any more. They're ready for that fastball. He better locate em better.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 20:31:53 GMT -8
Fernando is on his way back. Data looks really encouraging. Maybe not to peak 2021 levels because of the ball and offense being down across the league, but an improvement over 2023. Hopefully he can recover to where he was at pre shoulder surgery. I don't think that it was necessarily the right decision for him to get surgery. Shoulder mobility is valuable. You know what happens when that joint gets destabilized, right? |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 21:00:19 GMT -8
Good usage of Matsui to end the game. Low leverage, get his confidence back and find the rhythm.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 7, 2024 21:01:30 GMT -8
Fernando is on his way back. Data looks really encouraging. Maybe not to peak 2021 levels because of the ball and offense being down across the league, but an improvement over 2023. Ok, so now you're bullish on Tatis? |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 21:36:22 GMT -8
Fernando is on his way back. Data looks really encouraging. Maybe not to peak 2021 levels because of the ball and offense being down across the league, but an improvement over 2023. Ok, so now you're bullish on Tatis? The situation has changed. That does happen. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 7, 2024 22:01:15 GMT -8
Ok, so now you're bullish on Tatis? The situation has changed. That does happen. S**t, just TWO DAYS ago you said that the *data* is showing, over large sample size of plate appearances, that Fernando picking it up is an unlikely scenario. Who are you fooling. Sheesh. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 22:33:30 GMT -8
The situation has changed. That does happen. S**t, just TWO DAYS ago you said that the *data* is showing, over large sample size of plate appearances, that Fernando picking it up is an unlikely scenario. Who are you fooling. Sheesh. First of all, that post says "BOTH PLAYERS picking it up is an unlikely scenario." That refers to both Fernando AND Manny. Secondly, (I don't know why I'm justifying anything to you, but I will, for clarity) - His last two or three weeks have seen a marked increase in the metrics you look for - Hard hit rate, EV50 and average exit velocity. Third, that post from May 9th, where I talked about his heart of the plate swing/take run value, he's destroying fastballs now and has added six runs of value against four seamers in less than a month. I don't rush to judgment and declare guys "back" until I see indicators that it could happen. Even then, I try not to. Things can change quickly. He's running a .488 BABIP over the last two weeks and the power hadn't shown up fully yet. Baseball is weird. We'll see. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2024 22:48:55 GMT -8
And I'll add this: We are seeing a lot, and I mean a lot of good players that raked last year really struggle offensively this season. Corbin Carroll, Matt Olson, Sean Murphy, Ronald Acuña (pre-injury) and plenty, plenty more. Some of it is noise, some of it is just a dropoff in performance.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 8, 2024 7:14:56 GMT -8
Hopefully he can recover to where he was at pre shoulder surgery. I don't think that it was necessarily the right decision for him to get surgery. Shoulder mobility is valuable. You know what happens when that joint gets destabilized, right? Yes. But that doesn't really answer the question of whether its the right decision. The muscles around the joint can be strengthened to improve the joint stability. His swing became less explosive after surgery. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 8, 2024 7:23:55 GMT -8
You know what happens when that joint gets destabilized, right? Yes. But that doesn't really answer the question of whether its the right decision. The muscles around the joint can be strengthened to improve the joint stability. His swing became less explosive after surgery. The alternative is it pops out every month or two and that's a good way to spend a lot of time on the IL. Once he broke the wrist and wasn't going to play in 2022, that dynamic changed and surgery was tbe easy call to make. His swing isn't less explosive at all now, he's in near-elite territory for bat speed. It was more about protecting the shoulder mentally. That seems to be gone now. |
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Post by junior on Jun 8, 2024 7:35:08 GMT -8
You know what happens when that joint gets destabilized, right? Yes. But that doesn't really answer the question of whether its the right decision. The muscles around the joint can be strengthened to improve the joint stability. His swing became less explosive after surgery. Once the joint is inflamed from injury, all the musculature in the world won't help because the muscles react to the inflammation from the injury, get pissed off, and they become inflamed as well - which then involves the connective tissue, ligaments, capsule. It's a cascading mess. Every time his shoulder joint is further compromised, more damage is done to the inside capsule. I had to have mine scoped and scooped as the ortho described it - twice now. The decisions made - for both of us - were likely based on the damages up to that point and the likelihood of further, repetitive injuries. Who knows what Jr's motorcycle accident added to his own situation. But at any level of involvement, it definitely wasn't a positive one. I'm with the notion that if we have tools we can use to fix the problems rather than just continuing to treat the symptoms - shots, rest, slings, etc. so just keep putting off the inevitable - then get the job done before the decreased health of the joint makes a fix impossible. There is a point at which the joint just needs to be replaced - not knowing the severity of Junior's injury makes that a hard call - but doing that would probably be a career ender. So maybe better to lock in a fix now, and hope that it keeps him going for another decade or so. But given the history that we know about, it seems logical that at some point in his life, the joint will need replacement. |
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