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Post by docmm on Jun 3, 2024 20:06:47 GMT -8
Sorry, I forgot to realize that everything must be looked through a co-vid lens before jumping to conclusions. My bad. I mean, my "odd" bad. Well the statement he's pitched poorly for "eight years" is just false. Him and Gore were heading a very good rotation in Fort Wayne in 2019. Then he was traded for Blake Snell the following year. Ask any evaluator - The quality of play overall post-pandemic has dropped significantly. It's sloppier, inconsistent baseball just due to a number of factors that were aggravated by the pandemic and cost-cutting measures. Sorry, I thought the purpose of signing guys was to get them to be functional Major Leaguers. In the 8 years he pitched, all he has to show for it is an ERA over 5.00 with three different MLB teams. And I previously mentioned that when Preller did unload the International signing guys, they rarely worked out. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 20:24:11 GMT -8
Well the statement he's pitched poorly for "eight years" is just false. Him and Gore were heading a very good rotation in Fort Wayne in 2019. Then he was traded for Blake Snell the following year. Ask any evaluator - The quality of play overall post-pandemic has dropped significantly. It's sloppier, inconsistent baseball just due to a number of factors that were aggravated by the pandemic and cost-cutting measures. Sorry, I thought the purpose of signing guys was to get them to be functional Major Leaguers. In the 8 years he pitched, all he has to show for it is an ERA over 5.00 with three different MLB teams. And I previously mentioned that when Preller did unload the International signing guys, they rarely worked out. If someone is signing 30-40 16 year olds with the purpose of turning all of them into big leaguers, it's a process of delusion. I asked a Padre front office member a while back if they were worried about trading prospects and they told me "We'll just go get more." What determines success is keeping the right ones and then trading the right pieces for more established talent. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 20:25:50 GMT -8
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Post by docmm on Jun 3, 2024 21:36:42 GMT -8
Sorry, I thought the purpose of signing guys was to get them to be functional Major Leaguers. In the 8 years he pitched, all he has to show for it is an ERA over 5.00 with three different MLB teams. And I previously mentioned that when Preller did unload the International signing guys, they rarely worked out. If someone is signing 30-40 16 year olds with the purpose of turning all of them into big leaguers, it's a process of delusion. I asked a Padre front office member a while back if they were worried about trading prospects and they told me "We'll just go get more." What determines success is keeping the right ones and then trading the right pieces for more established talent. Sorry Bud, you can't have it both ways. This whole stupid back-and-forth started because you said, and I quote: "Preller has definitely not missed on way more than he has hit on international signees". But now you're saying it's all about just getting the right ones, not a numbers game. Say what you mean the first time. Jesus, can't you EVER just admit you made a mistake or said the wrong thing? The rest of us make mistakes all the time. Just how massive IS your ego? |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 3, 2024 21:54:22 GMT -8
If someone is signing 30-40 16 year olds with the purpose of turning all of them into big leaguers, it's a process of delusion. I asked a Padre front office member a while back if they were worried about trading prospects and they told me "We'll just go get more." What determines success is keeping the right ones and then trading the right pieces for more established talent. Sorry Bud, you can't have it both ways. This whole stupid back-and-forth started because you said, and I quote: "Preller has definitely not missed on way more than he has hit on international signees". But now you're saying it's all about just getting the right ones, not a numbers game. Say what you mean the first time. Jesus, can't you EVER just admit you made a mistake or said the wrong thing? The rest of us make mistakes all the time. Just how massive IS your ego? It is a numbers game, if you actually view it for what it is. If you think they are going to turn entire groups of teenagers from Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Taiwan, Australia, Canada, etc at an absurd rate, that's not happening. No team is doing that. They have contractual obligations with their Dominican affiliates to fill out rosters. That doesn't mean there's no value in the process, as those players have been utilized to fortify the major league roster for years. Think what you want. I'm not here to change your mind. You clearly don't follow the farm system, so I don't see why it would be a big deal. Your idea of turning players into big leaguers is just one facet of the process when it comes to signees. You insinuated Salas could be a bust after two months, so I'm not sure what we're trying to achieve here. When I said Preller "hits more than he misses" it's with the basic understanding that the bust rate is going to be 75% or higher, no matter who is running the show. The goal is always to get a handful of guys in each class to progress through the minors. Preller also signed Robert Suarez, Nick Martinez and others through the posting system and forced the Marlins to take Woo Suk Go in the Arraez deal. Talent acquisition is not an issue. And I make mistakes all the time, but I think we're just on different wavelengths here in terms of the analysis. The goal is to have Salas and de Vries turn into cornerstone type players that they can build around. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 4, 2024 1:50:26 GMT -8
Trevor Bauer is done as a big league pitcher. Move. On. But...he's having a FANATASTIC season. In. Mexico. And the owner of the Mexico City Red Devils is (or at least, was) a minority owner of the Padres. Bauer is so close!! And Bauer can just stay in Mexico. Just proves my point on why Marcano doesn't belong on the Padres 40 man anymore. |
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 4, 2024 1:53:18 GMT -8
Offense looks very, very predictably flat across a contact-oriented lefty. We lost because of poor decisions on the bases. No need for Kim to go for third with two outs (a single scores the runner regardless). No need for Profar to go for home with one out (a sac fly, or most groundballs score the runner regardless). |
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Post by aardvark on Jun 4, 2024 6:45:06 GMT -8
But...he's having a FANATASTIC season. In. Mexico. And the owner of the Mexico City Red Devils is (or at least, was) a minority owner of the Padres. Bauer is so close!! And Bauer can just stay in Mexico. Just proves my point on why Marcano doesn't belong on the Padres 40 man anymore. He isn't anymore. Minor leaguer Jay Groome also suspended for one year. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 4, 2024 7:41:03 GMT -8
Just proves my point on why Marcano doesn't belong on the Padres 40 man anymore. He isn't anymore. Minor leaguer Jay Groome also suspended for one year. Opens up a second 40 man spot. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 4, 2024 7:41:41 GMT -8
But...he's having a FANATASTIC season. In. Mexico. And the owner of the Mexico City Red Devils is (or at least, was) a minority owner of the Padres. Bauer is so close!! And Bauer can just stay in Mexico. Just proves my point on why Marcano doesn't belong on the Padres 40 man anymore. You lose any credibility when you shill for Bauer. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 4, 2024 7:57:17 GMT -8
What an insane story. Jay Groome bet less than $500....and only two bets.
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Post by azson on Jun 4, 2024 8:19:14 GMT -8
Helps to be a superstar/the face of MLB and have an interpreter fall guy.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 4, 2024 9:59:54 GMT -8
Just proves my point on why Marcano doesn't belong on the Padres 40 man anymore. You lose any credibility when you shill for Bauer. You lost all credibility when you defended holding a 40 man slot for Marcano. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 4, 2024 10:06:04 GMT -8
[quote author=" sdsuball" source="/post/1394887/thread" timestamp="1717523994"] You lose any credibility when you shill for Bauer. You lost all credibility when you defended holding a 40 man slot for Marcano.[/quote] I never did that. He was rehabbing the entire time and on the IL. Just stop shilling for awful human beings that will never play again in the majors. |
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Post by junior on Jun 4, 2024 10:28:14 GMT -8
Hosmer strikes again. Groome was about all they got for him. Groome wasn't going anywhere - anytime soon - anyway. Marcano might've had some trade value somewhere, sometime. But that's down the toilet now. As far as his depth of guilt, there's always the People's Court… where opinions are a dime a dozen (which is about what Marcano will be earning by shining shoes from now on).
You can bet on it! (just not in MLB) Meanwhile, in Anaheim …   |
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Post by docmm on Jun 4, 2024 12:55:14 GMT -8
The Athletic's Keith Law just did an article on the 5 Top MLB Prospects that have fallen the most this year. And Yipeeee, the Padres have the 2nd and 3rd listed ones: Dylan Lesko and Robby Snelling. He gets very specific on the shortcomings but simply put, Lesko can't throw strikes (32 walks in 34 innings) and Snelling has lost velocity down to a 90-92mph fastball.
I thought Miami might be interested in one or both of them for Luzardo and a RP. Probably not now.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 4, 2024 13:20:10 GMT -8
The Athletic's Keith Law just did an article on the 5 Top MLB Prospects that have fallen the most this year. And Yipeeee, the Padres have the 2nd and 3rd listed ones: Dylan Lesko and Robby Snelling. He gets very specific on the shortcomings but simply put, Lesko can't throw strikes (32 walks in 34 innings) and Snelling has lost velocity down to a 90-92mph fastball. I thought Miami might be interested in one or both of them for Luzardo and a RP. Probably not now. I don't know why anyone would want Luzardo now as opposed to a year ago. |
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 4, 2024 13:37:15 GMT -8
Per Ken Rosenthal, the Padres are pursuing White Sox lefty Garrett Crochet.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 4, 2024 13:47:14 GMT -8
Hosmer strikes again. Groome was about all they got for him. Groome wasn't going anywhere - anytime soon - anyway. Marcano might've had some trade value somewhere, sometime. But that's down the toilet now. As far as his depth of guilt, there's always the People's Court… where opinions are a dime a dozen (which is about what Marcano will be earning by shining shoes from now on).
You can bet on it! (just not in MLB) Meanwhile, in Anaheim … Ugh. Thanks for the Machado reminder. Lol. He does seem to be connecting a bit better of late. |
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Post by azson on Jun 4, 2024 13:54:06 GMT -8
Hosmer strikes again. Groome was about all they got for him. Groome wasn't going anywhere - anytime soon - anyway. Marcano might've had some trade value somewhere, sometime. But that's down the toilet now. As far as his depth of guilt, there's always the People's Court… where opinions are a dime a dozen (which is about what Marcano will be earning by shining shoes from now on).
You can bet on it! (just not in MLB) Meanwhile, in Anaheim … Ugh. Thanks for the Machado reminder. Lol. He does seem to be connecting a bit better of late. The 97.3 guys were talking about what hopeful signs to look for, and hard contact to opposite field/RC was #1 on the list, and I have seen more of those of late, so fingers crossed. |
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