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Post by junior on Oct 11, 2024 8:39:49 GMT -8
Or he suddenly drops in and finds his own lane. They're not paying him $325 million for 12 years to be the pitcher he looks like since his return - one who can't win ball games or get past the fourth inning. He's been back for a month now. He should be in shape to do some real damage - if the Padres batters aren't extra selective about what they're swinging at. And for this group, that's a touchy subject.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2024 10:06:16 GMT -8
The Dodgers are apparently planning to throw Yamamoto and Flaherty in a piggyback format, which is pretty stunning on the surface.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 12:36:55 GMT -8
Yeah, and that's why I said it was no surprise. It was also no big surprise because they certainly weren't going with another bull pen game, but that would have been their only other choice, really. Lol...okay. It's going to be another bullpen game as soon as Yamamoto allows traffic on the bases. He's given up 13 earned runs in nine innings against the Padres. Lol.....bad stretching it. I'm talking about starting off with a bullpen game where the first guy may go an inning or two. They'll go with Yamamoto as long as they can. Big difference from a bullpen game. Lol. Hopefully, he's the same pitcher we've faced in the past. Just like when you said the Dodgers bullpen is not good, which turns out to be wrong against the Padres in this series, that's for sure, Yamamoto may pitch like he's capable of, so there's that. Just because he hasn't pitched well against them, doesn't mean he can't. I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be so cocky about it. He's talented.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 12:38:09 GMT -8
Or he suddenly drops in and finds his own lane. They're not paying him $325 million for 12 years to be the pitcher he looks like since his return - one who can't win ball games or get past the fourth inning. He's been back for a month now. He should be in shape to do some real damage - if the Padres batters aren't extra selective about what they're swinging at. And for this group, that's a touchy subject. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Just because he hasn't pitched well against the Padres doesn't mean he can't throw a game against them.
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 11, 2024 13:05:06 GMT -8
The Dodgers are apparently planning to throw Yamamoto and Flaherty in a piggyback format, which is pretty stunning on the surface. Yamamoto, maybe the Dodgers think he was having issues bc he was tipping pitches, so they are willing to give him another shot with the pitch tipping issue fixed. Flaherty... no idea why they would trot him out there again. Either way, works for me!
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2024 13:09:31 GMT -8
The Dodgers are apparently planning to throw Yamamoto and Flaherty in a piggyback format, which is pretty stunning on the surface. Yamamoto, maybe the Dodgers think he was having issues bc he was tipping pitches, so they are willing to give him another shot with the pitch tipping issue fixed. Flaherty... no idea why they would trot him out there again. Either way, works for me! He's not tipping pitches, he just hasn't had any command whatsoever since he came back, falling behind and getting into predictable counts. His best pitches feed right into what the Padres do well.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2024 13:24:45 GMT -8
Lol...okay. It's going to be another bullpen game as soon as Yamamoto allows traffic on the bases. He's given up 13 earned runs in nine innings against the Padres. Lol.....bad stretching it. I'm talking about starting off with a bullpen game where the first guy may go an inning or two. They'll go with Yamamoto as long as they can. Big difference from a bullpen game. Lol. Hopefully, he's the same pitcher we've faced in the past. Just like when you said the Dodgers bullpen is not good, which turns out to be wrong against the Padres in this series, that's for sure, Yamamoto may pitch like he's capable of, so there's that. Just because he hasn't pitched well against them, doesn't mean he can't. I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be so cocky about it. He's talented. Cocky was your previous post, which was pretty silly considering you had a one in one shot to be right, with nobody else on extended rest. Bold stuff. Regarding the Dodger bullpen, here's the writeup of the previous game: "The Padres will aggressively press their bullpen advantage (2nd in xFIP and K-BB%, and 1st by both Pitching+ and botERA in the second half) over the Dodgers (19th, 18th, 17th and 16th by the same four metrics) once again in an elimination game, especially with an off-day on Thursday to rest their relievers before a possible Game 5." Additionally, the Dodger bullpen has the second worst xFIP of any bullpen in the playoffs, right above the recently ousted Royals. Their xFIP in Ssptember was 24th in the league. They were league average in walk rate, 18th in strikeout rate and mediocre overall by most metrics. Credit to them for showing up for a couple of games, though, totally outweighs weeks worth of data against a team that has struggled to score late in games. Considering Yamamoto has averaged four innings since his return, I doubt the leash is long tonight.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2024 13:28:06 GMT -8
Freeman back in the LA lineup. Rojas remains out. No changes at all to the Padre lineup. Sure hope Shildt is more aggressive tonight with situational hitting.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 13:44:07 GMT -8
Lol.....bad stretching it. I'm talking about starting off with a bullpen game where the first guy may go an inning or two. They'll go with Yamamoto as long as they can. Big difference from a bullpen game. Lol. Hopefully, he's the same pitcher we've faced in the past. Just like when you said the Dodgers bullpen is not good, which turns out to be wrong against the Padres in this series, that's for sure, Yamamoto may pitch like he's capable of, so there's that. Just because he hasn't pitched well against them, doesn't mean he can't. I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be so cocky about it. He's talented. Cocky was your previous post, which was pretty silly considering you had a one in one shot to be right, with nobody else on extended rest. Bold stuff. Regarding the Dodger bullpen, here's the writeup of the previous game: "The Padres will aggressively press their bullpen advantage (2nd in xFIP and K-BB%, and 1st by both Pitching+ and botERA in the second half) over the Dodgers (19th, 18th, 17th and 16th by the same four metrics) once again in an elimination game, especially with an off-day on Thursday to rest their relievers before a possible Game 5." Additionally, the Dodger bullpen has the second worst xFIP of any bullpen in the playoffs, right above the recently ousted Royals. Their xFIP in Ssptember was 24th in the league. They were league average in walk rate, 18th in strikeout rate and mediocre overall by most metrics. Credit to them for showing up for a couple of games, though, totally outweighs weeks worth of data against a team that has struggled to score late in games. Considering Yamamoto has averaged four innings since his return, I doubt the leash is long tonight. That's how you choose to perceive things from me, in particular. I'm used to it, unfortunately. I was saying that it would be Yamamoto opposed to a bullpen game. Yeah, Yamamoto was the obvious choice so that wasn't me being cocky. Horrible try at it, again. All I said is that I mentioned it would be him, and no bullpen game. You decided to announce that Yamamoto is the starter, like it was a big revelation, bold stuff, so I said no surprise there, but I'm typical Ryan fashion, you took it personally. Lol. Weird. See how I can be s**try too?
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 13:49:10 GMT -8
Lol.....bad stretching it. I'm talking about starting off with a bullpen game where the first guy may go an inning or two. They'll go with Yamamoto as long as they can. Big difference from a bullpen game. Lol. Hopefully, he's the same pitcher we've faced in the past. Just like when you said the Dodgers bullpen is not good, which turns out to be wrong against the Padres in this series, that's for sure, Yamamoto may pitch like he's capable of, so there's that. Just because he hasn't pitched well against them, doesn't mean he can't. I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be so cocky about it. He's talented. Cocky was your previous post, which was pretty silly considering you had a one in one shot to be right, with nobody else on extended rest. Bold stuff. Regarding the Dodger bullpen, here's the writeup of the previous game: "The Padres will aggressively press their bullpen advantage (2nd in xFIP and K-BB%, and 1st by both Pitching+ and botERA in the second half) over the Dodgers (19th, 18th, 17th and 16th by the same four metrics) once again in an elimination game, especially with an off-day on Thursday to rest their relievers before a possible Game 5." Additionally, the Dodger bullpen has the second worst xFIP of any bullpen in the playoffs, right above the recently ousted Royals. Their xFIP in Ssptember was 24th in the league. They were league average in walk rate, 18th in strikeout rate and mediocre overall by most metrics. Credit to them for showing up for a couple of games, though, totally outweighs weeks worth of data against a team that has struggled to score late in games. Considering Yamamoto has averaged four innings since his return, I doubt the leash is long tonight. Playoffs are a whole different animal than the regular season. It's a different hyper focus and some people are built for it, and some are not. So far, the Dodgers bullpen are showing they're built for it, unfortunately, hitting their spots and being very aggressive. The have great arms over there. Hopefully, they come back to regular season form tonight.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2024 14:18:12 GMT -8
Cocky was your previous post, which was pretty silly considering you had a one in one shot to be right, with nobody else on extended rest. Bold stuff. Regarding the Dodger bullpen, here's the writeup of the previous game: "The Padres will aggressively press their bullpen advantage (2nd in xFIP and K-BB%, and 1st by both Pitching+ and botERA in the second half) over the Dodgers (19th, 18th, 17th and 16th by the same four metrics) once again in an elimination game, especially with an off-day on Thursday to rest their relievers before a possible Game 5." Additionally, the Dodger bullpen has the second worst xFIP of any bullpen in the playoffs, right above the recently ousted Royals. Their xFIP in Ssptember was 24th in the league. They were league average in walk rate, 18th in strikeout rate and mediocre overall by most metrics. Credit to them for showing up for a couple of games, though, totally outweighs weeks worth of data against a team that has struggled to score late in games. Considering Yamamoto has averaged four innings since his return, I doubt the leash is long tonight. Playoffs are a whole different animal than the regular season. It's a different hyper focus and some people are built for it, and some are not. So far, the Dodgers bullpen are showing they're built for it, unfortunately, hitting their spots and being very aggressive. The have great arms over there. Hopefully, they come back to regular season form tonight. I don't really care about the clichés, what I said was accurate. More to do with the Padres than their arms.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 15:05:21 GMT -8
Playoffs are a whole different animal than the regular season. It's a different hyper focus and some people are built for it, and some are not. So far, the Dodgers bullpen are showing they're built for it, unfortunately, hitting their spots and being very aggressive. The have great arms over there. Hopefully, they come back to regular season form tonight. I don't really care about the clichés, what I said was accurate. More to do with the Padres than their arms. What I said is no cliche. People up their games at times because of adrenaline and hyper focus of the situation. Some people can use it to their advantage, and some can't. I get it why you don't accept that since you're an all or nothing star guy. That's ok. If you've played in situations similar to that, then you'll know where I'm coming from, or if you're simply not a person that only goes by stats like you.
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Post by junior on Oct 11, 2024 15:34:33 GMT -8
Freeman back in the LA lineup. Rojas remains out. No changes at all to the Padre lineup. Sure hope Shildt is more aggressive tonight with situational hitting. We'll see how long he lasts. He ain't no Ken Caminiti…
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 15:47:49 GMT -8
This where we miss Musgrove, but maybe not. Let's go!!!!!
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Post by junior on Oct 11, 2024 16:01:42 GMT -8
A-Fraud and Big Poopy are switching to L.A. for the final game.
Hope the Padres drop a huge steaming deuce on the both of them AND Peewee Rosenthal, tonight.
Joke Davis and John Smutz, too
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 16:24:36 GMT -8
A-Fraud and Big Poopy are switching to L.A. for the final game. Hope the Padres drop a huge steaming deuce on the both of them AND Peewee Rosenthal, tonight. Joke Davis and John Smutz, too I hear ya. No cajones.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2024 16:31:55 GMT -8
Padres seem really flat...again. Yamamoto is throwing straight fastballs, not really anything special. Just not making him work at all.
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Post by junior on Oct 11, 2024 16:38:46 GMT -8
Pee Yu!
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2024 16:40:15 GMT -8
This is exactly what I was afraid of. Starting Cease has pretty drastic consequences.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2024 16:40:31 GMT -8
Add Kike Hernandez to the list of one of those guys who turns it on in October.
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