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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:11:42 GMT -8
Oh my gosh. This is absolutely hilarious!!! Ryan couldn't possibly have a weak argument. So very egotistical of you. Not shocked. Ryan, I know it's going to burst your bubble, but here it goes. You have had COUNTLESS weak arguments across this board, and have been wrong COUNTLESS times, as well. Stay away from the ledge though, everybody can have a weak argument now and then, so it's ok. Unbelievable. Ok, to try and use the whole season as a barometer of how a team is going to perform in the playoffs at the end of the year, is very, very weak. Let me spell it out for you. There are SO many things that can happen during a season and a team hopes they're performing at their peak towards the end of the season, and that's exactly what the Dodgers are doing, unfortunately, right now. Will they fall off the cliff in the next two weeks offensively? Who knows, but that would be nice. If this was a weak argument, you would have a point. You're literally using games against non-competitive teams playing out the string...and your supplementary argument was "Look at August." Well, the entire year tells me that even with Shohei, they are far worse off. They have an identical wRC+ to the Diamondbacks, only three points ahead of the Padres. They aren't scoring as many runs because the bottom of the lineup includes two players who don't belong on a roster and their depth has cratered. Enjoy living in fantasy land. Well, it's not a fantasy of mine. More like a nightmare of mine. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 19, 2024 15:18:03 GMT -8
Ohtani gets his 50-50.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:20:06 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 15:24:55 GMT -8
If this was a weak argument, you would have a point. You're literally using games against non-competitive teams playing out the string...and your supplementary argument was "Look at August." Well, the entire year tells me that even with Shohei, they are far worse off. They have an identical wRC+ to the Diamondbacks, only three points ahead of the Padres. They aren't scoring as many runs because the bottom of the lineup includes two players who don't belong on a roster and their depth has cratered. Enjoy living in fantasy land. Well, it's not a fantasy of mine. More like a nightmare of mine. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. The past two years should help.
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Post by junior on Sept 19, 2024 15:31:23 GMT -8
17–3, and doyers are still batting in the 9th. What a schiztshow!
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:35:09 GMT -8
Well, it's not a fantasy of mine. More like a nightmare of mine. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong. The past two years should help. That's in the past, and I'm more worried about what they've done in the last two months and having to face Ohtani over there.
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 15:35:14 GMT -8
As the radio guys yesterday pointed out, it really isn't, given the new rule changes enlarging the bases and limiting throws over to first. He also doesn't lead the MLB in any significant offensive category, yet everyone is acting like this is the most amazing offensive season ever. Acuna's .337 average, 73 SBs and 41 HRs last year was arguably more impressive, but he didn't get nearly the same hype because he's not MLB's golden child.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:37:54 GMT -8
As the radio guys yesterday pointed out, it really isn't, given the new rule changes enlarging the bases and limiting throws over to first. He also doesn't lead the MLB in any significant offensive category, yet everyone is acting like this is the most amazing offensive season ever. Acuna's .337 average, 73 SBs and 41 HRs last year was arguably more impressive, but he didn't get nearly the same hype because he's not MLB's golden child. If that feat isn't considered incredible, then I don't know what is, even with the rule changes. If it's not that incredible, then why didn't anybody else do it this year? Of course it is.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 19, 2024 15:38:49 GMT -8
Ohtani 6-6 today.
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 15:42:33 GMT -8
As the radio guys yesterday pointed out, it really isn't, given the new rule changes enlarging the bases and limiting throws over to first. He also doesn't lead the MLB in any significant offensive category, yet everyone is acting like this is the most amazing offensive season ever. Acuna's .337 average, 73 SBs and 41 HRs last year was arguably more impressive, but he didn't get nearly the same hype because he's not MLB's golden child. If that feat isn't considered incredible, then I don't know what is, even with the rule changes. If it's not that incredible, then why didn't anybody else do it this year? Of course it is. Historic, yes of course, the first to do it and will always be remembered as such. " Incredible"? No, I have to agree with the radio guys on this one. Don't get me wrong, he's a generational talent, but I'll save my "incredibles" for when he's pitching as well.
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 15:46:19 GMT -8
Not to mention 3 HRs and 10 RBIs.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 15:50:32 GMT -8
The past two years should help. That's in the past, and I'm more worried about what they've done in the last two months and having to face Ohtani over there. Beating bad teams means nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:52:34 GMT -8
Are you kidding me? I just saw what Ohtani did today. 6-6 3 Home Runs and 10 RBI's. Wow!!! Yeah, he's a difference maker.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 19, 2024 15:52:48 GMT -8
Not to mention 3 HRs and 10 RBIs. Yeah, but he did get thrown out at 3rd today. Bench his ass!
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:54:55 GMT -8
That's in the past, and I'm more worried about what they've done in the last two months and having to face Ohtani over there. Beating bad teams means nothing. Absolutely nothing. You're wrong. Of course it does. Momentum's a thing. It can get people who were not real confident, confident again. You can get your stroke back against the weaker teams. So much more.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:55:13 GMT -8
Not to mention 3 HRs and 10 RBIs. Yeah, but he did get thrown out at 3rd today. Bench his ass! Lol.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 15:56:03 GMT -8
If that feat isn't considered incredible, then I don't know what is, even with the rule changes. If it's not that incredible, then why didn't anybody else do it this year? Of course it is. Historic, yes of course, the first to do it and will always be remembered as such. " Incredible"? No, I have to agree with the radio guys on this one. Don't get me wrong, he's a generational talent, but I'll save my "incredibles" for when he's pitching as well. You can have your opinion, sure. But in my book, that's an incredible feat.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 15:58:45 GMT -8
Beating bad teams means nothing. Absolutely nothing. You're wrong. Of course it does. Momentum's a thing. It can get people who were not real confident, confident again. You can get your stroke back against the weaker teams. So much more. Yeah, I'm going to focus on what's real and not imaginary things, personally. To further refute this silliness: Arizona has scored 277 runs since August 1st, the Dodgers have scored 234, the Padres have scored 215. Acting like LA is invincible is like a decade behind the curve. The Padres would be favored in a series against them. Lifetime against the Padres, Ohtani is hitting .188 with two home runs in 21 games. I realize clichés are all you can have sometimes, but come on.
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 19, 2024 16:01:54 GMT -8
I'm not talking about their pitching, in particular. I'm talking about their offense. That's a very weak argument when you say let's look at the whole season when you yourself have talked about how it's all about how you're doing entering the Playoffs, and that's correct. Things change throughout the season. Ask the Padres about that. I know you know that, but you'll go to any lengths not to be wrong. Look at August if you want more evidence. Please don't ever criticize my arguments as weak, you've championed that in exclusivity. Body of work. Sorry, I don't care about playing the Marlins, Angels, Cubs or a flailing Guardians team? Useless stuff. If you're going to look at silly things, look at the postseason results of Betts and Freeman. Rubs people the wrong way
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 16:02:39 GMT -8
Please don't ever criticize my arguments as weak, you've championed that in exclusivity. Body of work. Sorry, I don't care about playing the Marlins, Angels, Cubs or a flailing Guardians team? Useless stuff. If you're going to look at silly things, look at the postseason results of Betts and Freeman. Rubs people the wrong way Betts and Freeman? Yeah, me too.
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