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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 11:45:43 GMT -8
Yeah, not happening. Let LA get the bye and flame out. I don't think they flame out this year, unfortunately. Take a look at their pitching situation.
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 11:57:34 GMT -8
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 12:01:05 GMT -8
I don't think they flame out this year, unfortunately. Take a look at their pitching situation. And imagine if Detroit (who's now 2 games out of a playoff spot) hadn't traded them Flaherty where'd they be - most likely neck and neck with the Pads for the division lead.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 12:05:25 GMT -8
I don't think they flame out this year, unfortunately. Take a look at their pitching situation. I hear ya, but I think their offense makes up for it this year. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 12:09:01 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 12:10:50 GMT -8
Take a look at their pitching situation. I hear ya, but I think their offense makes up for it this year. I hope I'm wrong. Not even close, once you get past the big three. No depth at all.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 12:12:28 GMT -8
I hear ya, but I think their offense makes up for it this year. I hope I'm wrong. Not even close, once you get past the big three. No depth at all. What's not even close? That they can't make up for it with their offense?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 12:58:20 GMT -8
Not even close, once you get past the big three. No depth at all. What's not even close? That they can't make up for it with their offense? Ding.
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 13:00:50 GMT -8
And right on cue, G's officially eliminated.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 13:02:26 GMT -8
What's not even close? That they can't make up for it with their offense? Ding. I don't agree.
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Post by azson on Sept 19, 2024 13:05:06 GMT -8
Take a look at their pitching situation. And imagine if Detroit (who's now 2 games out of a playoff spot) hadn't traded them Flaherty where'd they be - most likely neck and neck with the Pads for the division lead. EDIT: CLE beats MIN in 10 and DET now tied with them for final WC spot, wild.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 13:08:46 GMT -8
Shocking. It's only borne out in the results all season, you know. They've scored nearly 140 runs less this season than they did last year. Their offense is worse, because they have very little depth. They also don't have any track record of producing in the postseason.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 13:37:21 GMT -8
Shocking. It's only borne out in the results all season, you know. They've scored nearly 140 runs less this season than they did last year. Their offense is worse, because they have very little depth. They also don't have any track record of producing in the postseason. You're wrong, again. Take a look at the amount of runs they've scored in September alone. It's how you're playing leading up to the playoffs. That's what I'm going by. I'm not shocked that you'll try to use the whole season to try and prove a point. Also, they didn't have Ohtani last year, so there's that. He's a difference maker. I hope I'm wrong, big time.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 13:56:07 GMT -8
Shocking. It's only borne out in the results all season, you know. They've scored nearly 140 runs less this season than they did last year. Their offense is worse, because they have very little depth. They also don't have any track record of producing in the postseason. You're wrong, again. Take a look at the amount of runs they've scored in September alone. It's how you're playing leading up to the playoffs. That's what I'm going by. I'm not shocked that you'll try to use the whole season to try and prove a point. Also, they didn't have Ohtani last year, so there's that. He's a difference maker. I hope I'm wrong, big time. Definitely not wrong. They scored 906 runs last season, they've scored 768 this season with less than two weeks to go. By any objective measure, their offense is worse. No matter what silly cliche you use, it doesn't change the root point. You're not shocked I would take over 125 games of sample size versus two weeks? Is that a serious argument? No, it's how you've played all year with little depth at the bottom of the lineup and pitching that has been eradicated by injury. They didn't have Ohtani last year, congrats. An actual fact. It doesn't change the calculus, unless he can bat four or five times for other players.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 14:19:08 GMT -8
You're wrong, again. Take a look at the amount of runs they've scored in September alone. It's how you're playing leading up to the playoffs. That's what I'm going by. I'm not shocked that you'll try to use the whole season to try and prove a point. Also, they didn't have Ohtani last year, so there's that. He's a difference maker. I hope I'm wrong, big time. Definitely not wrong. They scored 906 runs last season, they've scored 768 this season with less than two weeks to go. By any objective measure, their offense is worse. No matter what silly cliche you use, it doesn't change the root point. You're not shocked I would take over 125 games of sample size versus two weeks? Is that a serious argument? No, it's how you've played all year with little depth at the bottom of the lineup and pitching that has been eradicated by injury. They didn't have Ohtani last year, congrats. An actual fact. It doesn't change the calculus, unless he can bat four or five times for other players. I'm not talking about their pitching, in particular. I'm talking about their offense. That's a very weak argument when you say let's look at the whole season when you yourself have talked about how it's all about how you're doing entering the Playoffs, and that's correct. Things change throughout the season. Ask the Padres about that. I know you know that, but you'll go to any lengths not to be wrong. Look at August if you want more evidence. How about almost two months worth then, and it's the last two months.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 14:23:28 GMT -8
Definitely not wrong. They scored 906 runs last season, they've scored 768 this season with less than two weeks to go. By any objective measure, their offense is worse. No matter what silly cliche you use, it doesn't change the root point. You're not shocked I would take over 125 games of sample size versus two weeks? Is that a serious argument? No, it's how you've played all year with little depth at the bottom of the lineup and pitching that has been eradicated by injury. They didn't have Ohtani last year, congrats. An actual fact. It doesn't change the calculus, unless he can bat four or five times for other players. I'm not talking about their pitching, in particular. I'm talking about their offense. That's a very weak argument when you say let's look at the whole season when you yourself have talked about how it's all about how you're doing entering the Playoffs, and that's correct. Things change throughout the season. Ask the Padres about that. I know you know that, but you'll go to any lengths not to be wrong. Look at August if you want more evidence. Please don't ever criticize my arguments as weak, you've championed that in exclusivity. Body of work. Sorry, I don't care about playing the Marlins, Angels, Cubs or a flailing Guardians team? Useless stuff. If you're going to look at silly things, look at the postseason results of Betts and Freeman.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 14:37:00 GMT -8
Definitely not wrong. They scored 906 runs last season, they've scored 768 this season with less than two weeks to go. By any objective measure, their offense is worse. No matter what silly cliche you use, it doesn't change the root point. You're not shocked I would take over 125 games of sample size versus two weeks? Is that a serious argument? No, it's how you've played all year with little depth at the bottom of the lineup and pitching that has been eradicated by injury. They didn't have Ohtani last year, congrats. An actual fact. It doesn't change the calculus, unless he can bat four or five times for other players. I'm not talking about their pitching, in particular. I'm talking about their offense. That's a very weak argument when you say let's look at the whole season when you yourself have talked about how it's all about how you're doing entering the Playoffs, and that's correct. Things change throughout the season. Ask the Padres about that. I know you know that, but you'll go to any lengths not to be wrong. Look at August if you want more evidence. How about almost two months worth then, and it's the last two months. I don't think I've ever said, in this sport, that's it all about how you're playing when you get in. The bye crushes that momentum, so it's counterintuitive. The Dodgers have lost because their offense has been pathetic after coming off the bye. This isn't football, you don't just line up and have the more talented team win out. There's so many more variables in play, like the lack of pitching or a bullpen.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 14:48:10 GMT -8
I'm not talking about their pitching, in particular. I'm talking about their offense. That's a very weak argument when you say let's look at the whole season when you yourself have talked about how it's all about how you're doing entering the Playoffs, and that's correct. Things change throughout the season. Ask the Padres about that. I know you know that, but you'll go to any lengths not to be wrong. Look at August if you want more evidence. Please don't ever criticize my arguments as weak, you've championed that in exclusivity. Body of work. Sorry, I don't care about playing the Marlins, Angels, Cubs or a flailing Guardians team? Useless stuff. If you're going to look at silly things, look at the postseason results of Betts and Freeman. Oh my gosh. This is absolutely hilarious!!! Ryan couldn't possibly have a weak argument. So very egotistical of you. Not shocked. Ryan, I know it's going to burst your bubble, but here it goes. You have had COUNTLESS weak arguments across this board, and have been wrong COUNTLESS times, as well. Stay away from the ledge though, everybody can have a weak argument now and then, so it's ok. Unbelievable. Ok, to try and use the whole season as a barometer of how a team is going to perform in the playoffs at the end of the year, is very, very weak. Let me spell it out for you. There are SO many things that can happen during a season and a team hopes they're performing at their peak towards the end of the season, and that's exactly what the Dodgers are doing, unfortunately, right now. Will they fall off the cliff in the next two weeks offensively? Who knows, but that would be nice.
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Post by johneaztec on Sept 19, 2024 14:51:03 GMT -8
I'm not talking about their pitching, in particular. I'm talking about their offense. That's a very weak argument when you say let's look at the whole season when you yourself have talked about how it's all about how you're doing entering the Playoffs, and that's correct. Things change throughout the season. Ask the Padres about that. I know you know that, but you'll go to any lengths not to be wrong. Look at August if you want more evidence. How about almost two months worth then, and it's the last two months. I don't think I've ever said, in this sport, that's it all about how you're playing when you get in. The bye crushes that momentum, so it's counterintuitive. The Dodgers have lost because their offense has been pathetic after coming off the bye. This isn't football, you don't just line up and have the more talented team win out. There's so many more variables in play, like the lack of pitching or a bullpen. I understand their weakness is pitching, but I think their offense will get them by this year. Betts and Freeman? I wouldn't bet on them having a bad playoffs this year. They seem to be more energized. Ohtani can do that to a team. Ohtani can also win a game single handedly, so there's that. He's the "it" factor for them this year, I'm afraid. Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 19, 2024 14:51:43 GMT -8
Please don't ever criticize my arguments as weak, you've championed that in exclusivity. Body of work. Sorry, I don't care about playing the Marlins, Angels, Cubs or a flailing Guardians team? Useless stuff. If you're going to look at silly things, look at the postseason results of Betts and Freeman. Oh my gosh. This is absolutely hilarious!!! Ryan couldn't possibly have a weak argument. So very egotistical of you. Not shocked. Ryan, I know it's going to burst your bubble, but here it goes. You have had COUNTLESS weak arguments across this board, and have been wrong COUNTLESS times, as well. Stay away from the ledge though, everybody can have a weak argument now and then, so it's ok. Unbelievable. Ok, to try and use the whole season as a barometer of how a team is going to perform in the playoffs at the end of the year, is very, very weak. Let me spell it out for you. There are SO many things that can happen during a season and a team hopes they're performing at their peak towards the end of the season, and that's exactly what the Dodgers are doing, unfortunately, right now. Will they fall off the cliff in the next two weeks offensively? Who knows, but that would be nice. If this was a weak argument, you would have a point. You're literally using games against non-competitive teams playing out the string...and your supplementary argument was "Look at August." Well, the entire year tells me that even with Shohei, they are far worse off. They have an identical wRC+ to the Diamondbacks, only three points ahead of the Padres. They aren't scoring as many runs because the bottom of the lineup includes two players who don't belong on a roster and their depth has cratered. Enjoy living in fantasy land.
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